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[Danger in Texas]

What more does Rory Laird need to do for this board to acknowledge he's an A grader?

The whole ‘A grade’ thing is a bit hard to judge overall, given everyone has different opinions on what defines an A grade talent

I’d have him there, though

 

[arrowman]

Pedlars left foot is sexual.

Coopers likes this

 

[Mutineer]

The whole ‘A grade’ thing is a bit hard to judge overall, given everyone has different opinions on what defines an A grade talent

I’d have him there, though

The only thing I used to question was his loopy kick on occasions but that's almost a thing of the past....kicking plenty of low darts especially this season.

 

[VictorianCrow85]

What more does Rory Laird need to do for this board to acknowledge he's an A grader?

Might be more of the A- than absolute elite but he's better than a solid b grader comfortably.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Might be more of the A- than absolute elite but he's better than a solid b grader comfortably.

What ever he is he’s perennially underrated by his own supporters

He’s a proper pro

 

[Anzacpaul]

Crowd got into it on the back of a patch of diabolical umpiring, making subsequent goals extra satisfying and were celebrated accordingly.

Good atmosphere for a small crowd.

Yeah my voice is paying for it today at work.

End of the 3rd quarter where we copped 2-3 dodgy decisions, followed by Ned/Rachele goals in the last got us up and about!

 

[VictorianCrow85]

What ever he is he’s perennially underrated by his own supporters

He’s a proper pro

Oh yeah most people I know go for Victorian teams and guess what? They all rate him very highly, as do I. When I say maybe an A- type it's not disrespect I'm just saying A to A+ are those game breaker kinds more. Laird probably lacks a little bit of that damage factor at times but he's a damn fine player & definitely some on here under rate him badly. We've been extremely fortunate to have him through this rebuild or it would have been even tougher. Laird & Tex carried us to more wins than we'd have otherwise achieved.

 

[Bob Neil]

For those interested in stats here are the season averages across a range of basic and advanced stats for the 23 who played yesterday (source: AFL - News, Fixtures, Scores & Results - AFL.com.au):

#	Player	AF	CM	i50s	FF	FA	CC	SI	IP	Ti50	DE%	CP	UP	G	B	D	K	H	M	T	HO	TC	MG	GA	ToG%
1	Chayce Jones	70	0	2.9	0.8	0.6	0.7	4.9	3.6	0.2	73.2	6	11	0.6	0.3	18.2	13.1	5.1	2.8	2.3	0	2.8	364.4	0.9	81
2	Ben Keays	69.7	0	3.4	0.3	0.7	0.6	6.2	1.9	0.7	69.1	5.8	11	0.5	1	17.1	9	8.1	3.5	3.5	0	1.6	226.7	0.8	82.9
4	Lachlan Murphy	62.4	0.3	3.7	1	0.8	0.1	5.4	1.1	0.5	63.5	6.7	9.1	0.2	0.3	15.6	9.1	6.5	3.6	2.8	0	2.3	248.4	0.9	78.2
7	Riley Thilthorpe	55	1.9	1.6	0.9	0.9	0.4	4.1	2	0.4	70.8	7.3	3.2	1.1	0.2	10.7	5.8	4.9	3.6	1.6	5.9	1.2	121.5	0.1	67.4
8	Josh Rachele	79.5	0.2	3.4	0.9	0.6	0.7	6	1.2	0.9	66.8	5.2	12.5	1.3	1.2	17.3	11.7	5.5	4.7	2.8	0	1.3	355	0.5	79.7
9	Rory Sloane	79.8	0.2	3.1	0.8	1.1	0.8	4.7	3.2	0.8	73.1	8.6	11	0.2	0.1	19.9	10.5	9.4	3.2	5.3	0.1	3.9	266.7	0.6	70.5
10	Luke Pedlar	60.8	0.2	2.3	1.2	1	0.5	5.3	1.7	0.7	68.9	5.3	7.7	1.4	0.6	11.9	8.4	3.5	4.2	2.2	0	1	245.2	0.7	75.6
12	Jordan Dawson	108.7	0.4	5.2	1.7	0.6	1.3	6.5	4.3	0.4	73.4	9.5	15.4	0.4	0.5	27	17.4	9.6	4.5	5.4	0	3.5	500.2	0.5	86.3
13	Taylor Walker	65.5	1.7	2	0.8	1.9	0	6.4	0.4	0.6	63.8	5.7	6.2	2.6	1.1	11.6	8.5	3.1	5.1	1.2	1.9	0.7	247.1	0.5	81.5
14	Jake Soligo	69.4	0.1	2	0.6	0.9	1	4.4	2.4	0.4	68.6	7.5	9.9	0.5	0.5	17.1	10.1	7	4	3	0	2.8	290.6	0.4	77
16	Max Michalanney	55.3	0.5	1	0.9	0.5	0	1.9	4.7	0	82.8	3.6	6.5	0	0	10.5	7.6	2.9	4	3.8	0	0.2	188.7	0.2	79.8
22	Izak Rankine	75.8	0.6	2.8	1	1.5	0.2	7	1.5	0.7	64.6	8.5	7.7	1.9	1.4	15.9	9.8	6.1	4	3.2	0	2.5	268.6	0.8	90.7
24	Josh Worrell	69	0	2	2	0	0	1	6	0	73.7	8	8	0	0	19	14	5	1	3	0	2	554	0	73.8
25	Ned McHenry	40.2	0	2.2	0.6	1.8	0	4.2	2	0	73.2	3.4	8.4	0.6	0	11.2	6.2	5	3.2	0.8	0	0.2	175.9	0.6	45.6
28	Nick Murray	42.3	0.7	0.5	0.3	0.4	0	1.7	4.3	0	85.7	4.3	5.3	0	0	10.5	7.5	3	3.7	0.9	0	0.3	242	0.1	83.8
29	Rory Laird	107.6	0	3.7	1.8	1.8	2.8	7.2	2	0.7	70.6	13.3	15.4	0.2	0.6	28.2	11.8	16.4	3	8.1	0	6.3	289.7	0.5	78
30	Wayne Milera	66.3	0.6	1.5	0.4	0.5	0	3.7	5.6	0.1	80.1	5.8	11.1	0.1	0	18.1	10.1	8	4.7	1.6	0	0.7	276.5	0.1	79
32	Darcy Fogarty	58.9	1	1.6	0.6	0.9	0	5.4	0.4	0.7	68.8	3.7	7.1	1.8	0.9	10.7	7.7	3	5	1.3	0.1	0.3	186.3	0.8	84.5
37	Patrick Parnell	44.5	0.3	1.3	0.8	0	0	1	2.3	0	78	2.5	7.5	0	0	10.3	7.8	2.5	3.5	1.3	0	0.5	135.8	0	41.8
38	Lachlan Sholl	72.9	0.1	1.9	0.5	0.7	0.3	4.4	3.9	0.4	78.3	5.8	12.9	0.2	0.2	18.4	11.2	7.2	5.3	2.3	0	2	287.6	0.2	83.2
39	Tom Doedee	60.9	0.5	1	0.6	0.8	0	2.6	6.6	0	81.7	5	10.8	0	0	16.4	9.2	7.2	4.9	1.5	0	0.4	220.7	0	94.8
41	Jordon Butts	37.2	0.4	0.1	0.9	0.6	0	0.8	4.2	0	84.1	3.4	5.2	0	0	8.8	5.4	3.4	3.7	1	0	0.1	118.8	0	84
43	Reilly O'Brien	90.5	1.5	1.5	0.9	1.6	1.3	5.1	3.2	0.1	66.4	8.4	4.2	0.1	0.1	13.5	5.3	8.3	3.3	2.8	40.5	3.4	81	0.4	81

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Footy crowds havent been the same since Covid..

Covid forced everyone to get a Kayo subscription and watch from home.. as there were no crowds allowed.

Alot of these supporters havent returned to the “live at the ground” experience.. they realised that they can watch live (with no telecast delays) in the comfort of their own homes with their own supply of beer, food etc.. and not get robbed blind.. and not have to fight traffic on roads and crowds on public transport.

I agree with this, until this year .....Crowds in MELB however have really bounced back.

It seems there's more volatility from matches to matches .....more picking & choosing games to attend, rather than regularly going each match ?



Yet, disturbingly .....how s**t West Coast are ....they are still drawing bigger crowds than the Crows are

 

[Bearded Clam]

Crowds have returned to games in Melbourne largely, and Port crowds are strong post Covid.

It seems to be something that has affected the Crows more than other clubs.

I would be fascinated to see the average age of club membership, as I believe the Crows members would be the oldest in competition (along with Melbourne for MCC reasons!).

Older members = more likely to stay at home on night/cold/wet games, more likely to have health concerns about covid risks too.

But surely using that “older supporters are more likely to” logic then the older supporter is gonna be less technologically adaptive.. and thus would not have gotten kayo during covid and just watched on free to air (live or delayed).. then gone back to attending the footy live at the ground when covid restrictions were lifted..

We are using a lot of assumptions and guess work here.. you’d tgink if the AFL was a competently run organisation that they wouldve looked into their post covid customer wants and needs!

 

[Betts are off]

I agree with this, until this year .....Crowds in MELB however have really bounced back.

It seems there's more volatility from matches to matches .....more picking & choosing games to attend, rather than regularly going each match ?

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Yet, disturbingly .....how s**t West Coast are ....they are still drawing bigger crowds than the Crows are

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On a semi-related note, this week's round 11 game for the Crows, saw Izak Rankine play in front of more accumulative fans then he did with the Suns in all 22 games last year.

Crows YTD attendances for 2023; 329k
Suns 2022 attendances total: 317k

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Disagree. He is looking more like Fog of early 2022 than Fog of mid-late 2022. His benefit is to the team is to take marks and kick goals.

He is playing from behind a lot more and doesn't have the same swagger.

Yep, agree .....Fog is back to wrestling opponents more .....whereas he was simply leading & jumping at balls in the 2nd half of 2022

My take is, the knee injury this year, changed his approach .....does Fog have the confidence in the knee to jump & split packs ....or is he thinking of potential re-injury, which is still holding him back ??

 

[Anzacpaul]

The price of a seat is now pretty ridiculous as well and would turn a few people away.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Any talk of him being suspended?

On SM-A325F using BigFooty.com mobile app

Robbo wrote that he'll need to explain himself at the tribunal and floated the question of whether it would be a month's suspension if found guilty

 

[AFC979810]

Yep, agree .....Fog is back to wrestling opponents more .....whereas he was simply leading & jumping at balls in the 2nd half of 2022

My take is, the knee injury this year, changed his approach .....does Fog have the confidence in the knee to jump & split packs ....or is he thinking of potential re-injury, which is still holding him back ??

Issue is that he hurt his knee in RD2 (finished the game). Then he missed two weeks and came back and had two very good games in RD 5 & 6.

Since then he hasn't looked the same. Knee strapping came off around the St.Kilda game I believe.

Fair chance its between the ears with FOG.

 

[Mutineer]

Has the Wabbit from up North snuck out from his burrow yet?

Interested in his take on Milera's game yesterday?

He shouldn't feel too bad plenty of us were having doubts as well including me.

I wonder did the Wabbit rate the team's performance yesterday?

 

[Mutineer]

Yep, agree .....Fog is back to wrestling opponents more .....whereas he was simply leading & jumping at balls in the 2nd half of 2022

My take is, the knee injury this year, changed his approach .....does Fog have the confidence in the knee to jump & split packs ....or is he thinking of potential re-injury, which is still holding him back ??

I suspect the weather conditions the last couple of weeks may have played into that?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I suspect the weather conditions the last couple of weeks may have played into that?

Yes, could be a number of factors, wet weather maybe a genuine reason.....Fog is at his best when jumping for his marks, hope we see that back soon

 

[Southerntakeover]

What more does Rory Laird need to do for this board to acknowledge he's an A grader?

Be one

 

[Multiballz]

Has the Wabbit from up North snuck out from his burrow yet?

Interested in his take on Milera's game yesterday?

He shouldn't feel too bad plenty of us were having doubts as well including me.

I wonder did the Wabbit rate the team's performance yesterday?

Surely Milera has to string a couple of months worth of this type of performance at least before redeming the seasons worth of half arsed crap hes served up over his career?

Love the " told you so"s after 2 or 3 decent games though. Makes me want to jump on the bandwagon.

 

[por_please_ya]

The price of a seat is now pretty ridiculous as well and would turn a few people away.

Yep... for someone without a membership the cost is insanity. Last time I went my partner and I paid $86 each, to sit on the third tier (Sec 544 or something).... That was the Collingwood game.

He's trying to encourage me to get a membership where you get discounted games during the year.

 

[GreyCrow]

CBAs

Laird 67
Dawson 78
Keays 70
Sloane 44

Pedlar 26

Rachele 7
Soligo 7

Yep sure are giving the kids a good run in the middle

 

[GreyCrow]

Yep... for someone without a membership the cost is insanity. Last time I went my partner and I paid $86 each, to sit on the third tier (Sec 544 or something).... That was the Collingwood game.

He's trying to encourage me to get a membership where you get discounted games during the year.

Get a full membership - get it taken out on monthly payments

Any games you CANT make apply for seat return and you should get a reduction or money back

 

[Danger in Texas]

CBAs

Laird 67
Dawson 78
Keays 70
Sloane 44

Pedlar 26

Rachele 7
Soligo 7

Yep sure are giving the kids a good run in the middle

Keays running with Neale probably was why his CBA numbers were so high

Doubt it becomes the norm

 

[George Kramer]

CBAs

Laird 67
Dawson 78
Keays 70
Sloane 44

Pedlar 26

Rachele 7
Soligo 7

Yep sure are giving the kids a good run in the middle

How many games is that