NO TROLLS Hawthorn Racism Review - Sensitive issues discussed. Part 3

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Link to Hawthorn Statement. - Link to ABC Sports article. - Leaked Report

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[Chief]

Yeah commercial media judging their publicly funded competition.

 

[vindaloo]

Yeah commercial media judging their publicly funded competition.

I'm posting this as it has relevance to this thread. ABC has its post-modern agenda and that's obvious for all to see. The relevance to this thread is Rusty Jackson's deceitful reporting of this topic whereby he is every bit a part of that agenda.

The ABC has a small audience. It should provide the news rather than being a tool for political activism considering we are all paying for it. By the way, did you read the article? I'd expect you could handle it being 'alpha' and all that. I'd expect a fair few on here would get really, and I mean super dooper, triggered by the piece I referenced of that I'm sure.

 

[Chief]

ABC has its post-modern agenda

What does that even MEAN?

 

[Caligo]

I thought this was a good article on the ABC. It was the ABC who broke the story of Hawthorn's racism scandal in a misleading way to appease its agenda, its agenda that is encapsulated in this article beautifully.

The ABC is at rock bottom because of negligence higher up

A self-satisfied, indulgent culture has been allowed to develop within the corporation and that’s a failure of management.

www.theage.com.au

Please read the article even if it's triggering for many who frequent these sort of threads and who are the ABC
niche audience.

Can't read it. Pay walled.

 

[sr36]

What does that even MEAN?

It means the poster doesn't understand what post-modern means.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I thought this was a good article on the ABC. It was the ABC who broke the story of Hawthorn's racism scandal in a misleading way to appease its agenda, its agenda that is encapsulated in this article beautifully.

The ABC is at rock bottom because of negligence higher up

A self-satisfied, indulgent culture has been allowed to develop within the corporation and that’s a failure of management.

www.theage.com.au

Please read the article even if it's triggering for many who frequent these sort of threads and who are the ABC
niche audience.

Paywalled, could you please cut and paste?

 

[Rob R]

so is this still a thing?

Lawyers are getting rich and it is wasting time and money at the HRC rather than either side taking it to court which might actually get to the truth through cross examination. and testing of claims and defences


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[010203]

Paywalled, could you please cut and paste?

Click on this link to read the article: https://archive.md/Ok7Kp

 

[Caligo]

I thought this was a good article on the ABC. It was the ABC who broke the story of Hawthorn's racism scandal in a misleading way to appease its agenda, its agenda that is encapsulated in this article beautifully.

The ABC is at rock bottom because of negligence higher up

A self-satisfied, indulgent culture has been allowed to develop within the corporation and that’s a failure of management.

www.theage.com.au

Please read the article even if it's triggering for many who frequent these sort of threads and who are the ABC
niche audience.

Seems like an incredibly unreliable hit piece honestly. It lists a bunch of random things and then misuses the concept of "post modernism" to try to tie them all together.

Just as an example, it references the sacking of Antoinette Lattouf without actually looking at the tweets she wrote that were supposedly anti-semitic.

Flimsy as tissue paper in a hurricane.

The whole point of the article is to argue that the credibility of the ABC is under question, and this article proceeds to question that credibility.

Hard to believe, I know.

 

[Caligo]

Click on this link to read the article: https://archive.md/Ok7Kp

Thank you! Much appreciated. Although the article definitely wasn't worth the 2 minutes I spent reading it, I appreciate you getting us the link.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I thought this was a good article on the ABC. It was the ABC who broke the story of Hawthorn's racism scandal in a misleading way to appease its agenda, its agenda that is encapsulated in this article beautifully.

The ABC is at rock bottom because of negligence higher up

A self-satisfied, indulgent culture has been allowed to develop within the corporation and that’s a failure of management.

www.theage.com.au

Please read the article even if it's triggering for many who frequent these sort of threads and who are the ABC
niche audience.

So I read that article, it gives a broad view of out of hand personal opinion among journos and staffers at the ABC, that form influence on reporting and articles, so one could fairly assume agenda bias has driven the original ABC report. Totally relevant.

Ok, yep fair enough, one could also argue that there probably isn't a media outlet that isn't influenced by agenda driven journos and staffers. Ok not relevant to this thread, but with the danger of going off topic let's not pretend counter articles from media outlets that have different agendas (think Sky) (that I don't have links of) are / would likely have been 'agenda' driven with just as much influence.

 

[ferball]

That's over the top.

Before Clarkson started coaching they'd had about two or three blackfellas play for them in their entire history. One of them was Chance Bateman.

 

[the big lebowski]

Before Clarkson started coaching they'd had about two or three blackfellas play for them in their entire history. One of them was Chance Bateman.

Wasn’t is offical club policy to not draft indigenous players until the late 90’s?

 

[ferball]

I'm posting this as it has relevance to this thread. ABC has its post-modern agenda and that's obvious for all to see. The relevance to this thread is Rusty Jackson's deceitful reporting of this topic whereby he is every bit a part of that agenda.

The ABC has a small audience. It should provide the news rather than being a tool for political activism considering we are all paying for it. By the way, did you read the article? I'd expect you could handle it being 'alpha' and all that. I'd expect a fair few on here would get really, and I mean super dooper, triggered by the piece I referenced of that I'm sure.

You don't even understand the words you are using do you.

You may as well be a programmed piece of code for all the actual processing that's happening between your ears.

I live in the bush and listen to abc local radio during disasters, thats my abc consumption these days, since it drifted so far to the right.

Anyway post modernism is the philosophical equivalent of quantum physics and developed as a response to the early 20th century findings in that field. Every time one of those propaganda shills that programs you to think that way uses the term what they're really doing is saying "I can't deal with reality and don't understand it!"

I know you think you're just gonna laugh and ignore this but you've read it now. Its in your brain and will never go away.

Anyway this thread is about Hawthorn's historically racist attitude not the abc.

Cheers

 

[ferball]

Wasn’t is offical club policy to not draft indigenous players until the late 90’s?

Dunno if it was official policy but it was certainly how they worked.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Wasn’t is offical club policy to not draft indigenous players until the late 90’s?

That story has got massively out of hand
Hawks had a couple of indigenous players (just like most teams) up until the 90s. One director who was a bit of an f-wit said it, and was then pushed out the door 6 months later in the early 90s

 

[the big lebowski]

Dunno if it was official policy but it was certainly how they worked.

They really are a scum bag club

How a club unwelcome to Indigenous players became a safe place

Hawthorn’s Chance Bateman arrived at a club that resisted recruiting Indigenous players. He left a premiership player from a club willing to start a journey.

amp.theage.com.au

 

[ferball]

What does that even MEAN?

Isn't it self evident?

 

[ferball]

Recruited predominantly from private schools. They too are now more diverse

That's a massive relief. Imagine how much of a toxic circle jerk of racism they could have ended up with if Melbourne's private schools and the establishment they served was/were horribly racist during the 20th century.

 

[Rob R]

Before Clarkson started coaching they'd had about two or three blackfellas play for them in their entire history. One of them was Chance Bateman.

Pretty much same number as Collingwood, Geelong, Footscray, Richmond.

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[ferball]

Pretty much same number as Collingwood, Geelong, Footscray, Richmond.

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Are you suggesting the AFL and most of the clubs are/were racist organisations?

I remember the snide little remarks some commentators used to make about the Krakouers.

 

[Rob R]

Are you suggesting the AFL and most of the clubs are/were racist organisations?

I remember the snide little remarks some commentators used to make about the Krakouers.

I am suggesting that some people in most clubs were racist certainly until the 90s which combined with lack of opportunity at junior level/scouting (and probably a narrow description of who were indigenous) led to under representation.

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[ferball]

"a narrow description of who were indigenous"

lol

 

[Rob R]

"a narrow description of who were indigenous"

lol

Do you really think people would call themselves indigenous or be recognised as indigenous in the past like they are these days (this isn't passing judgement on people these days)

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[Chief]

Do you really think people would call themselves indigenous or be recognised as indigenous in the past like they are these days (this isn't passing judgement on people these days)

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Like, couple of hundred years ago?