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Link to Hawthorn Statement. - Link to ABC Sports article. - Leaked Report

 

[ImaBeliever!]

Did I say different?

Yes, you did.


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[James Colorado]

Watching Yokayi (sorry, spelling???) will be a must see after this. Get the popcorn!
Appalling story, and rightly, it will be served up to Hawthorn, no doubt. Can understand the Rioli retirement now.

The "ripped jeans" situation, in isolation, appears to be a poor reaction to an old man's joke. But it's not in isolation, and what's coming out now is really demonstrating that.

 

[Soapy V]

Left out countries where genocides have happened on purpose or?

Also no USA made me giggle.

Australia does extremely well in terms of racism compared to the rest of the world.

Too many to mention

 

[citizen-erased]

They've already hired Viney haven't they? Other than that they're pretty short-handed right now with just whoever the existing assistant coaching staff on-board are.

Viney is team Clarkson though. does he stay if Clarkson doesn't end up taking up the position?

 

[Descent]

What has immigration got to do with racism? Our immigration rate is the highest per capita in the world

That’s objectively false. My point is that Germany is out of place in that buzzfeed list you’ve made.

 

[BlueDay]

Doesn't look good, interesting that the investigation only took input from first nations players and staff, but Burgoyne was not interviewed. Was that a timing issue given he has left the club, given the period being investigated surely he should have been included? Not saying there is no truth here, I don't know more than anyone else, only that there seems to be more work to be done.

 

[Soapy V]

Yes, you did.


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[gouki88]

Left out countries where genocides have happened on purpose or?

Also no USA made me giggle.

Australia does extremely well in terms of racism compared to the rest of the world.

Like Australia?

 

[Verdun]

Both Hawthorn and North have made a point of using the word 'historical'.

Yep - they have the marketing department / spin doctors / crisis management consultants in place

 

[gordo2016]

I also know that most indigenous people hate the term First Nations

Did you google that? BS.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

I would be so devastated that men I have admired and respected and even loved for so long could do such terrible things.

Well surely a big lesson from this is that it's idiotic to admire, respect and love complete strangers that you have relationship with, no connection to, and no real knowledge of.

This blind admiration, respect and love is what enables so much if the shit behaviour we see from footy people.

 

[Profop]

I really feel like there needs to be like fifty to sixty years elapsed before you can try to hide behind things being ‘historical accusations’

 

[nobbyiscool]

I keep reading that “Clarkson & Fagan are innocent until proven guilty.”

Do people think this is a criminal investigation?

Nuffies really need to google employment law. Clarkson in particular doesn’t have a leg to stand on if he has to be terminated.

 

[Soapy V]

Did you google that?

No lived it but please assume

 

[bzparkes]

Not saying you were, but you are using the same tactics and phrases that one would use if they were trying to downplay or excuse the situation.

Not to mention that you seem more appalled about by the implication of Australia being labelled racist, than you do about a football club attempting to enforce its own quasi White Australia Policy. It's perhaps not surprising that people have lumped you in with that group.

I'm not more appalled by Australia being generalised as a racist country, just sick of people playing that narrative whenever anything like this crops up.

Of course Hawthorn's report is far more appalling right now, as it has far-ranging implications for the entire industry. Be interesting to see what comes out in the wash if we get full access to the report though.

 

[danster168]

Yeah but Luke Darcy is a well known *******.

no he's not.

people just love to tear down media personalities for fun but most of the time its baseless.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Germany has the second largest migrant population in the world. You really have nfi what you’re talking about.

Tbf he gave himself away when he was crying about inner city types

 

[gouki88]

No lived it but please assume

So you have questioned "most" Indigenous people? You are well travelled!

 

[faible]

Viney is team Clarkson though. does he stay if Clarkson doesn't end up taking up the position?

Do they have a choice a few weeks out from the draft and pre-season?

 

[Soapy V]

So you have questioned "most" Indigenous people? You are well travelled!

I am and also lived it

 

[gouki88]

I am and also lived it

You keep saying 'lived it' - what do you even mean? By what right do you speak on behalf of over 800,000 people?

 

[Richard Pryor]

The "ripped jeans" situation, in isolation, appears to be a poor reaction to an old man's joke. But it's not in isolation, and what's coming out now is really demonstrating that.

I think also means rioli is owed far more charitable takes than those who felt he threw the toys out of the pram at a remark from a known dickhead. Far more likely it was a straw that broke the camels back than an isolated incident being a sole catalyst.

 

[evo]

I m really surprised Clarko went for the North job. He must've known this was hanging over his head, stuff like this is rarely hushed up forever.

I'm even a little surprised Fagan didn't sneak away from the limelight at some point in the last few years as well.

Even if the AFL or their respective clubs don't sanction or sack them I very much doubt either will coach another game if even half of this is true. They are now social pariahs, impossible to live it down.

 

[Soapy V]

You keep saying 'lived it' - what do you even mean? By what right do you speak on behalf of over 800,000 people?

I don't but seems many on here can. Interesting

 

[citizen-erased]

Do they have a choice a few weeks out from the draft and pre-season?

not sure what's worst
going in with seats empty, or wondering if the people in the seat are going to be there next week.