Welcome Welcome to Adelaide: Isaac Cumming

[moogerfooger]

We didn't need Luko for goodness sake, I'm not even sure we need Cumming. We need a bloody elite MIDFIELDER! Both are a nice get if they don't cost the earth. Luko at 7 years and multi million $$$ (and a likely first round pick) is not worth it IMO. I remain neutral about Cumming. It won't be the end of the earth if we don't get him. It will be very disappointing if we get nobody we set out to get.

Exactly. We don't need another flanker/half back. We need mids. The problem is we've become the North Melb/St Kilda of the league in that we throw 10 year multi million dollar offers in front of players like Gulden and it isn't enough to overcome disinterest from the type of player we need. Whether that's perceptions of the coach, football department, seven years without finals or just our developing reputation of increasing irrelevance.

Every year we fail to land an elite midfielder it gets harder.

The club is looking desperate throwing money at players who might be gettable, whether or not we actually need them.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Exactly. We don't need another flanker/half back. We need mids. The problem is we've become the North Melb/St Kilda of the league in that we throw 10 year multi million dollar offers in front of players like Gulden and it isn't enough to overcome disinterest from the type of player we need. Whether that's perceptions of the coach, football department, seven years without finals or just our developing reputation of increasing irrelevance.

Every year we fail to land an elite midfielder it gets harder.

The club is looking desperate throwing money at players who might be gettable, whether or not we actually need them.

Yes we need mids, but we also need speed, and run/carry on the outside

Other than Ryan, who hasn't played a game yet, are any of our HB/wing types that type of player? Hinge/Nank/Sholl/Dowling/Curtin aren't really types that run the ball up the ground at pace. In fact, the only best 22 player we have that can do that is Rankine

Cumming certainly fills a gap in our squad

 

[Cromulant]

Yes we need mids, but we also need speed, and run/carry on the outside

Other than Ryan, who hasn't played a game yet, are any of our HB/wing types that type of player? Hinge/Nank/Sholl/Dowling/Curtin aren't really types that run the ball up the ground at pace. In fact, the only best 22 player we have that can do that is Rankine

Cumming certainly fills a gap in our squad

TO be fair to Hinge and Nank, they do at times.

 

[Danger in Texas]

TO be fair to Hinge and Nank, they do at times.

Neither are fast as such, though

 

[Cromulant]

Neither are fast as such, though

I think Hinge is quicker than he looks, but yeah neither are lightning

 

[George Kramer]

Perryman isn't going to Port though...

How do you know that?

 

[WeeBlake]

Yes we need mids, but we also need speed, and run/carry on the outside

Other than Ryan, who hasn't played a game yet, are any of our HB/wing types that type of player? Hinge/Nank/Sholl/Dowling/Curtin aren't really types that run the ball up the ground at pace. In fact, the only best 22 player we have that can do that is Rankine

Cumming certainly fills a gap in our squad

Speed is a real worry with our current list.

Laird, Crouch, Walker, ROB, TT, Curtin Fog is 1/3 of a team who are pretty slow. I think it is too much.

Hoping Curtin gets more athletic if his knee gets fixed.

 

[Cromulant]

Speed is a real worry with our current list.

Laird, Crouch, Walker, ROB, TT, Curtin Fog is 1/3 of a team who are pretty slow. I think it is too much.

Hoping Curtin gets more athletic if his knee gets fixed.

Skill level is more important than speed.

 

[CharlieCrow]

The club is looking desperate throwing money at players who might be gettable, whether or not we actually need them.

I've never understood the desperation clubs and their supporters create at the trade table. The huge amounts of money and high draft picks moved around to get people to change clubs. I appreciate that some players will make incremental improvements but - and in this basket I put ANB, Cumming and Luko - but that is not what is going to really move us forward to where we want to be.
Improvement is the capacity to get the right draft picks, move the wrong players on quickly, draft the right players, build their skills and fitness, create a gameplan that works and then have them all playing to a winning drumbeat that gets the flag! There are plenty of examples of this - Geelong and Sydney right now, Richmond in the past. And Brisbane is the opposite of this - in terms of drafting, but they have the rest in spades! Sure, a couple of timely imports at the right time might just get you over the line, but its the whole club effort that wins the flag.

Plus, imagine being a player in a club, still sitting around the bottom of the table, looking across the change room at the end of a game at some middle level player your club traded in who's getting twice your money and is not making any more difference than you.

 

[Rash]

 

[Sizzlepack]

We got him.

 

[KPWorld]

Boom

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[Danger in Texas]

Let's gooooooooo

 

[CharlieCrow]

Phew!

 

[Trigger13]

Never been happier to be wrong. You beauty

 

[Cromulant]

Cheers Tex

 

[Crow-eater]

Bang

 

[Crow till I die]

 

[1990crow]

Channel 7 made to look like fools.

 

[CharlieCrow]

I've never understood the desperation clubs and their supporters create at the trade table. The huge amounts of money and high draft picks moved around to get people to change clubs. I appreciate that some players will make incremental improvements but - and in this basket I put ANB, Cumming and Luko - but that is not what is going to really move us forward to where we want to be.
Improvement is the capacity to get the right draft picks, move the wrong players on quickly, draft the right players, build their skills and fitness, create a gameplan that works and then have them all playing to a winning drumbeat that gets the flag! There are plenty of examples of this - Geelong and Sydney right now, Richmond in the past. And Brisbane is the opposite of this - in terms of drafting, but they have the rest in spades! Sure, a couple of timely imports at the right time might just get you over the line, but its the whole club effort that wins the flag.

Plus, imagine being a player in a club, still sitting around the bottom of the table, looking across the change room at the end of a game at some middle level player your club traded in who's getting twice your money and is not making any more difference than you.

Ignore all this - or some of it anyway!! Very pleased Cumming will be a Crow!

 

[jenny61_99]

All the bedwetters can change their undies it seems.

 

[jbanger]

I guess there's a spare seat on a certain US flight now?

 

[Cromulant]

Channel 7 made to look like fools.

Josh Money was not.... on the money.

 

[Crow-eater]

0/2 for ch7 with Keane not walking out and Cumming choosing us.

Now the Draper stuff looks suss too...

 

[TBM]

Massive get. Happy days, the club needed this badly. Very well done Tex