MRP / Trib. Isaac Heeney - High contact on Jimmy Webster

[eth-dog]

Yes that was beautifully orchestrated by the AFL, everyone was fooled thinking that it was the lawyer that got Cripps off. Lawyer got the credit in most people's eyes so I'm sure they were happy to participate in the charade

Not everything is a conspiracy

 

[Dogflogger]

AFL tried their best to suspend Cripps. Some hot shot lawyer found a legal loophole that got him off in the end but had to go through every stage of the tribunal and appeal system to get there.

I think Heeney will get off as it's a far less impactful hit than Cripps on Ah Chee

I think that's the BS excuse he was talking about.

 

[Sully111]

Once upon a time....

Heeney swung his arm at Webster and hit him in the face, causing blood to pour from Webster's nose.

The end.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

He accidently swung his arm back? I'm sure he didn't mean to hit him in the head, but it was his choice to throw his arm back, so will have to face the music.

Yeah this is a good way to look at it I suppose, it’s negligent though he didn’t intentionally hit him high? Genuine question, if he attempts to make body contact and hits him high because he’s not paying attention is that his fault? Should he not be swinging with that force to begin with?

I would hope he gets off but I understand your point completely and can’t help but agree

 

[Bald]

Zerk Thatcher wasn’t even sighted for mindlessly swinging his limbs resulting in a broken nose and concussion to Naughton.

Heeney will be fine, and so he should be. Can’t be getting suspensions for that.

 

[WindyHillZephyr]

Oh the joys of this overpaid bush league. Heeney gets 2 weeks from the MRO then appeals and gets off because he is a good guy with good teeth. Any news is good news.

 

[Flog_Toolist]

Oh the joys of this overpaid bush league. Heeney gets 2 weeks from the MRO then appeals and gets off because he is a good guy with good teeth. Any news is good news.

Sydney will employ the same KC Silk mouthpieces that got Cripps off after he put Ah Chee in Hospital.

How infectious is that Tony Curtis smile?

 

[RUNVS]

Heeney swung his arm under his own shoulders, clearly not expecting to hit the other player in the head. He only did so as the St Kilda player was quite a bit lower down than Heeney expected.

 

[marcus1232]

Under the rules for creating separation it’s intentional and will get a week.
But precedent has been set by Jesse hogan

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if you fight it it’s really easy to get it downgraded.

So will get a week and get it downgraded on appeal

 

[Flog_Toolist]

Under the rules for creating separation it’s intentional and will get a week.
But precedent has been set by Jesse hogan if you fight it it’s really easy to get it downgraded.

So will get a week and get it downgraded on appeal

Chris Grant says hi

 

[Some Idiot]

Don't like these ones because they need to determine if the defender is holding his arm, swinging arms is a reflex action to a hold.

 

[Foxx]

Was simply trying to push him off, before he led for a mark. Purely accidental.

 

[Flog_Toolist]

Don't like these ones because they need to determine if the defender is holding his arm, swinging arms is a reflex action to a hold.

Right On Cue.

 

[tropicaltiger]

Will be stiff to get rubbed out but them’s the breaks.

heeney was being impeded and scragged. should have got a free but faces a suspension, typical afl's confusing rules, where the retaliator often gets the rough end of pineapple.

 

[Dogflogger]

heeney was being impeded and scragged. should have got a free but faces a suspension, typical afl's confusing rules, where the retaliator often gets the rough end of pineapple.

I guess its his turn then.

 

[FreoGirl]

I hope he gets off

 

[Flog_Toolist]

I hope he gets off

Best & Fairest? Bloke smashed an opponent in the face. Ineligible

 

[FreoGirl]

Best & Fairest? Bloke smashed an opponent in the face. Ineligible

envy much?

 

[Flog_Toolist]

envy much?

The greyhound poo? NAH. ROTFLMFAO. Great movie though. Back to homing pigeons for the Brutal Bloods I suppose. ROTFLMAO

 

[.Shotties.]

Barry Hall got off back in the day for giving a guy a smack in the Prelim Final. 50 metres away from play. Guess what? It was deemed not behind play.

Yeah because the rules at the time said a player who could realistically be in the next passage of play was considered in play. The ball was on the wing at Marvel and the incident occured on the HFF with Hall taking a mark on the next kick. Under the revised ruling he got one week reduced to a fine with an early plea.

The rule was stupid, but it was adjudicated in Hall's case the same way it was the rest of the year.

 

[Try Again]

Much ado about 0.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Zerk Thatcher wasn’t even sighted for mindlessly swinging his limbs resulting in a broken nose and concussion to Naughton.

Heeney will be fine, and so he should be. Can’t be getting suspensions for that.

Zerk Thatcher one seemed totally incidental - but there's no doubt he was trying to block Naughton.

It does beg the question, whether a forward should reasonably expect to get concussed when simply trying to lead for the ball?

Guys get weeks for carelessly tackling someone. A tackle is far more of a 'football act' than trying to illegally block someone's lead up the field.


Having said that, Heeney clearly did try to make contact. It was careless in the sense that it got him high and was hard enough to put a bloke like Webster on his arse.

'They' will try to get him off by saying that Webster slipped and was lower than Heeney expected, so high contact was incidental. And they'll try to get it to Low Impact.


In both cases though, guys shouldn't fear being whacked in the head off the ball.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

He accidently swung his arm back? I'm sure he didn't mean to hit him in the head, but it was his choice to throw his arm back, so will have to face the music.

Whether it’s an accident or not is completely and utterly irrelevant. Peter Wright sent Cunningham into the shadow realm accidentally. He still got banned.

You swing the arm you hit a head you cop the ban. That’s literally what they changed the rule too in these off the ball moments.

I’m looking forward to the AFL finding some bullshit loophole though.

 

[Obeanie1]

It will be graded as Careless and In Play.

Careless-Medium-High = 1 Week.

Careless Low High

Fine.

You know thats how it will pan out.

And from how it looked thats fair enough. Certainly wasnt Barry Hall knocking a bloke out.

 

[Obeanie1]

Whether it’s an accident or not is completely and utterly irrelevant. Peter Wright sent Cunningham into the shadow realm accidentally. He still got banned.

You swing the arm you hit a head you cop the ban. That’s literally what they changed the rule too in these off the ball moments.

I’m looking forward to the AFL finding some bullshit loophole though.

Bullshit loopholes.and the AFL.