News Ivan Soldo's trade to St Kilda falls through

[minno12]

Latest news:

Saints no longer chasing soldo

 

[Coobk001]

Just get the 2nd rounder and all will be happy.

 

[Coobk001]

If we can get the Saints 2nd pick this year (24) that’d be good business. Soldo is probs worth pick 35-40 though realistically.

This could be enough to extract Luko, without involving the Houston business.

Anyone know what a pick like 24 would end up as after academy or FS picks?

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Anyone know what a pick like 24 would end up as after academy or FS picks?

30.

 

[rignanv]

I got the feeling Ivan is the sort of player that needs everything in his personal life to be going well to play at his best. As soon as his Mrs left, his form really dropped off. Can't really blame the man tbh

 

[Enviable Tradition]

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[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

Goodbye Iron Sheik

 

[philthy05]

Lol how they clarify it was a pick in the 40’s, it was 41, and it was actually a second rounder before it got pushed back to 41 after compo picks and priority picks.

Just like saints pick 24 and pick 43 will end up being something like 26-30 and 45-55.

Saints have pick 24 and 43.

There’s just zero reason for us to take 43. As I said before , it’s gonna end up around pick 50 before trade day and probably much later on draft day when f/s noms push it back and when Barrett gets a bid before it, it will be worth **** all points.

 

[MrChow]

Lol how they clarify it was a pick in the 40’s, it was 41, and it was actually a second rounder before it got pushed back to 41 after compo picks and priority picks.

Just like saints pick 24 and pick 43 will end up being something like 26-30 and 45-55.

Saints have pick 24 and 43.

There’s just zero reason for us to take 43. As I said before , it’s gonna end up around pick 50 before trade day and probably much later on draft day when f/s noms push it back and when Barrett gets a bid before it, it will be worth **** all points.

While it would be great to get Pick 24 from saints and use that in the Luko trade, the other option is getting as many points as possible in next years draft, to help Gold Coast with points for academy selections.

 

[RossFC]

I'd take a future 2nd.

 

[Coobk001]

I'd take a future 2nd.

IMO, we have 4 years till our core squad is peaking, Rozee, Butters, JHF, Bergman, Georgie, Jones, Sinn, Burgoyne, etc. We need to improve that 2nd layer of our squad now, so they're starting to hit that 4-5 year level where players usually start hitting their potential asap.

 

[JimmyBC]

What exactly is hardball for a somewhat ok injury prone ruck lol.. we'll take whatever and move on.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Young people with lots of money wanting to live in Melbourne and Sydney, is just an unfortunate reality SA and WA clubs must deal with.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Seriously, can people stop posting about Ivan's girlfriend and his relationship. It is tiresome and will be deleted. Trade news only.

 

[philthy05]

What exactly is hardball for a somewhat ok injury prone ruck lol.. we'll take whatever and move on.

If the option is receive “whatever” let a port ruck whose shown 5 mins of good form get comfortable or to keep soldo and lose the chance to get this “whatever” the latter choice is by far more attractive


Port fans don’t have to look back very far to see how easily it happens, pretty sure people were raving about lycett when he first got here. Plenty of afl rucks have had highs and lows.


I want something in return to be worth the risk.

Yeah a future second, they probably nudges the bar. Of course what teams would be willing to give up for him from their end and their own reasons could be totally different. I certainly wouldnt want to trade much for him.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Good, piss off

How weak can you get, can't be bothered fighting for his spot

Jesus Christ. Does this also apply to players who ask to be traded to us, or does it only work the other way?

He's a human being who moved interstate for more opportunity but for various reasons not entirely due to his performances, which were pretty good but just got eclipsed by a slightly better, younger player, that opportunity hasn't materialised.

We're also paying him a starter's salary and holding a player worth a 2nd rounder on the open market to play in the Maggies.

It's a better fit for everyone if he gets traded back.

 

[FishingRick04]

Because he values his relationship over his job and a bunch of sad misogynists with warped priorities are offended by that.

It appears he didn’t last year when he agreed to come over?

 

[Wargreymon90]

lol his partner moved away and he is no longer best 22, of course he’s going to leave.

 

[Donuts_]

It's a better fit for everyone if he gets traded back.

Oh I wholeheatedly agree.

We have enough players on our list that give up easily when things aren't quite going their way.

 

[El_Scorcho]

It appears he didn’t last year when he agreed to come over?

He came over expecting to be a starting AFL ruck, not playing SANFL. He agreed to the trade before we got Sweet in.

Literally nobody on the planet would stay under the conditions he's found himself in when a trade back to his home state is achievable.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Oh I wholeheatedly agree.

We have enough players on our list that give up easily when things aren't quite going their way.

I'm sorry, were you making these arguments 12 months ago when he was traded here because he wanted more opportunity? How is it any different? People move jobs for better opportunity all the time, and if that opportunity doesn't work out, they move again.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Oh I wholeheatedly agree.

We have enough players on our list that give up easily when things aren't quite going their way.

Would you stay in a job for three years away from home and away from your partner if you had the option of moving to a better role on the same or better pay back at home with your partner, friends and family, and the employers at your current job didn't even particularly want to keep you?

If you would you're a ****ing idiot.

 

[FishingRick04]

He came over expecting to be a starting AFL ruck, not playing SANFL. He agreed to the trade before we got Sweet in.

Literally nobody on the planet would stay under the conditions he's found himself in when a trade back to his home state is achievable.

I have no issue with him going, he came here knowing terms. He was our first ruck but his body didn’t hold, reoccurring theme.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I have no issue with him going, he came here knowing terms. He was our first ruck but his body didn’t hold, reoccurring theme.

Ultimately I think his form was pretty good with us, certainly an enormous upgrade on anything we had in 2023, but Sweet is just as good if not better, younger, and grew up a Port supporter. It's a pretty easy choice for everyone.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Seriously, can people stop posting about Ivan's girlfriend and his relationship. It is tiresome and will be deleted. Trade news only.

 

[Donuts_]

Would you stay in a job for three years away from home and away from your partner if you had the option of moving to a better role on the same or better pay back at home with your partner, friends and family, and the employers at your current job didn't even particularly want to keep you?

If you would you're a ****ing idiot.

a) No-one forced his partner to move away - it is well documented that was a personal lifestyle choice not a financial one. Don't dress it up like Ivan has abandoned her.

b) He chose to sign a 3-year deal to move here - after Port gave Richmond overs in draft capital - and is bailing after 1. There is no guarantee we will get equivalent value in picks back.

c) On AFL wages he can live and play wherever he is wanted in this country. Many highly-paid professional sportsmen do. If he can't handle life interstate, that's OK but spare me the sob story.

d) Port did not initiate this trade request. Another dress up job: we're not pushing him out and this makes you look silly.

He is free to request a trade and I'm free to call it as I see it - weak.

Good luck to him. What's done is done and trading him now is best for all parties.