News Izak Rankine, Gold coast holding Rankine to Ransom- #FreeIzak

[Scorpus]

Mod note:

Opposition posters making outlandish trade suggestions to bait the Crows board will be considered trolls and dealt with in the usual manner

No one wants a repeat of the Gibbs thread

 

[Mego Red]

It's a funny year to have what will be pick 6 - there's a clear top 5 and then you could throw a blanket over the next dozen.

So many question marks on players. There will be some first rounders who are out of the league within a few years, and there's no way of predicting it.

 

[Crow till I die]

Would take Rankine over every kid in this draft without question. No guarantee that any of this years top ten will be elite - Rankine is


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The end game will be midfield imo. IF he transitions then he could be the next Andy McLeod with his skillset. Its up to him how high he can go as he has the talent - does he have the application?

 

[Peter Doherty]

Narkle aside, those players make them a much better side. Pickett is coming to port next year. Mark it down. Graham and Rioli are premiership players, both with elite traits.

Amon out, Rioli in. Not sure they are any better with that deal.

 

[Crowked]

Would take Rankine over every kid in this draft without question. No guarantee that any of this years top ten will be elite - Rankine is


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No he isn’t
Could be, might be but right now he isn’t

 

[pjcrows]

"What do people expect?"

We've needed at least two young elite midfielders - with skills, and one with a big body - for five years.

We've done nothing about getting one, let alone two.

 

[Smart Fella]

I know I shouldn't get into this, but why do you think that?

Geelong had Stevie J, Jimmy Bartel, Corey Enright, Hamish McIntosh, James Kelly, Matthew Stokes and Jared Rivers ALL coming out of contract at the same time.

Why do you think there was zero chance of them making an unmatchable free agent offer? They had MASSIVE salary cap room




Not sure this is true. The number one financial offer for Rankine was coming from Essendon, who have at least as much salary cap room as us, and an earlier pick.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-coach-robert-walls-jordan-lewis-appointed-to-coaching-selection-panel/news-story/2d1db127fe27ec1d4c9234016dad3eee

Okay, they could have come up with an offer I suspect but it goes against everything we hear about how Geelong manages their salary cap, so there was a specific amount they wanted to pay. If they were to pay up big money, it would have messed with the list management side of things.

With Rankine and the ND, clubs could have money but then not only would they be giving up one of the top 5 prospects in Australia, they will also pay big money to someone that is a massive flight risk.

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[Danger in Texas]

"What do people expect?"

We've needed at least two young elite midfielders - with skills, and one with a big body - for five years.

We've done nothing about getting one, let alone two.

Think we’re hoping Soligo becomes one of those players, now

Then one in next year’s draft, or JHF if he decides to come home

 

[1990crow]

Think we’re hoping Soligo becomes one of those players, now

Then one in next year’s draft, or JHF if he decides to come home

Drafting one next year just results in the window being 6-7 years from now.
It's poor list management.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Drafting one next year just results in the window being 6-7 years from now.
It's poor list management.

You’d probably be looking at 2027 at the earliest yeah, by that point Dawson will be in his 30’s

JHF at least puts the window a couple of years earlier (IF he develops into that player, of course)

 

[ABAB]

Narkle aside, those players make them a much better side. Pickett is coming to port next year. Mark it down. Graham and Rioli are premiership players, both with elite traits.

"Much" better side.....?? The best 18-22 players are also consider premiership players, does that mean when 2 of them go to the other clubs it makes them a "much" better side and both with elite traits, only Rioli is when he is on.

 

[Amacca 23]

Okay, they could have come up with an offer I suspect but it goes against everything we hear about how Geelong manages their salary cap, so there was a specific amount they wanted to pay. If they were to pay up big money, it would have messed with the list management side of things.

With Rankine and the ND, clubs could have money but then not only would they be giving up one of the top 5 prospects in Australia, they will also pay big money to someone that is a massive flight risk.

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Why do people say ND no way in hell that happens it will be psd the reason being psd you have to match terms he puts on himself ie 1 year 1.5 mill nd you only have to match overall deal ie 5 years 4 mill

 

[ABAB]

Amon out, Rioli in. Not sure they are any better with that deal.

Maybe he mistakenly thought Graham is Dunkley and Narkle is Pickett???

 

[1990crow]

You’d probably be looking at 2027 at the earliest yeah, by that point Dawson will be in his 30’s

JHF at least puts the window a couple of years earlier (IF he develops into that player, of course)

I'm not comfortable with our eggs being in JHFs basket. No doubt the AFL will step in and make him an ambassador or some bullshit.

 

[ams4crows]

I'm not comfortable with our eggs being in JHFs basket. No doubt the AFL will step in and make him an ambassador or some bullshit.

I'd like to see a better attitude from him in games before I start thinking about selling the farm for him.

 

[crow2crow]

McPherson in his underage year was absolutely looking like a first rounder - I guess a lot can change so there's no guarantees, but he was looking like the best SA player in his draft class.

fair enough - FF 2022. he needs to be cut and paid out. wasting a spot.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I'm not comfortable with our eggs being in JHFs basket. No doubt the AFL will step in and make him an ambassador or some bullshit.

And that’s if he even wants to come back

We don’t have a whole lot of options, in other words. For this year, our eggs are in the Rankine basket, whether we like it or not

 

[crow2crow]

They’re getting Narkle?

nobody is taking meghan narkle with an AFL stats sheet like this

 

[1990crow]

And that’s if he even wants to come back

We don’t have a whole lot of options, in other words. For this year, our eggs are in the Rankine basket, whether we like it or not

This is what happens when Roo just appoints whoever he likes to key roles without a process.

Madness.

 

[Scorpus]

You have to wonder if the people complaining that they wanted other trades ON TOP of the Rankine one AND wanted us to trade for Rankine without using pick 5, have only themselves to blame. Talk about setting yourself up for disappointment.

It's okay, the club constantly disappoints me, I'm used to it

 

[1990crow]

It's okay, the club constantly disappoints me, I'm used to it

Sometimes I wonder how the same club that won 1997 and 1998 resulted in the one we have today.

 

[Dangerousfield]

So it looks like pick 5 is gone. At best we can hope for a second coming back.

Also gone is Phillipou, Port have a pick around his likely range.

Other local players we were hoping for are now in the 'out of our hands' basket

Still pinning our hopes on the magical 50 game watershed, not that it has transformed McFlurry into a finals quality footballer. Those three recent dud first rounders are hurting bad.

 

[Sanders]

Is the high school kid Mad Flog Metro pretending he knows sh*t from shoe polish again?

I’m sorry I missed that.

MDJ has a lot in common with Silent J, file in the same draw

 

[Scorpus]

"What do people expect?"

We've needed at least two young elite midfielders - with skills, and one with a big body - for five years.

We've done nothing about getting one, let alone two.

If we had a good list management team, I'd expect the Crows to use pick 5 on an elite player in an important position (eg midfield)

It's going to be upsetting when we give away such a prized pick on a small forward instead

 

[Hang_Time]

And that’s if he even wants to come back

We don’t have a whole lot of options, in other words. For this year, our eggs are in the Rankine basket, whether we like it or not

We have gone to the draft for the last few years and the club thinks we are better with Rankine than taking another first rounder.. that is not to say we will not have some thing coming back our way.

Reid clearly said we need to evaluate what we have on our list which is fair we are three year in on the rebuild. Not sure how many year people expect a complete rebuild to take but we the youngest team in the comp and have some very promising players.. Rankine will add to this and is a potential game breaker. Back on home soil playing on Adelaide oval.. well let’s see.. next year we go for JHF or whatever the group decide but if we continue upwards the potential for attracting quality free agents becomes easier..

Champion teams win GFs that is what the coach and players need to build together. Build a core team with one mind and the rest will come together..

 

[crow2crow]

Sometimes I wonder how the same club that won 1997 and 1998 resulted in the one we have today.

Some key contributions

• Bill Sanders and Bob Hammond retiring long time ago I know
• Andrew Fagans appointment as CEO who admitted he wasnt an AFL fan and was an absolute ****wit if you met him
• Phil Walsh being murdered
• Jobs for the boys appointments of hass, burton, smart and co
• Roo, Jamo and others not being qualified as directors
• A victorian recruiter who is focussed on vic country and tassie
• A data scientist doing the drafting based on statistical models not football ability
• A coach that got on the nose beers with the players
• Tippetgate, the camp, shall I go on?