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What will be the trade with the Suns? (Crows posters only, NO opposition supporters)


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If it doesnt get done today then Im going to start thinking this whole pick 5 plus future 3rd leaks are all coming from the GC camp and Crows have been super tight lipped.

Pick 5 and future 3rd is overs.
GC want a future second plus 5
 

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Speed
Agility
Footskills
Goal sense
Ability to create goals via assisting
High-level upside
Ability to win a match off his own boot

Seems to tick a lot of boxes in areas we lack, to me

Just wondering what you think Ollie Henry (Pick 17) and Tanner Bruhn (Pick 12) are worth in individual trades, mate?

Only been with their clubs for 2 years each, and both arguably have more runs on the board than Rankine.

Keen to hear your thoughts!

(Here’s a hint, Geelong have just offered, as their starting point, Pick 38 to Collingwood for Ollie Henry)


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My opinion is pick 5 is his value. The guy is one of the most talented players in the game and had his first decent season, suggesting an upward trajectory. Still a bit speculative and if that wasn't the case, he'd be worth more.

The question is should we be using high draft capital on that type of player (forward with some mid minutes) when we have a much more important need? I'm not talking using pick 5 for a mid in the draft. I mean targeting a current player who is more likely to give us good output within the next few years.

That's probably a no from me.

The positive would be we're bringing in another highly talented and skilled player. If he ends up like Bolton then it's going to be happy days.
 
The delay in the trade could be because we are playing hard ball and GC can't have what they want.
Just saying!
How dare you postulate that we might be playing hard ball?!?!

That wouldn’t suit the narrative…
 
Just wondering what you think Ollie Henry (Pick 17) and Tanner Bruhn (Pick 12) are worth in individual trades, mate?

Only been with their clubs for 2 years each, and both arguably have more runs on the board than Rankine.

Keen to hear your thoughts


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just delete your post it is ridiculous
 
Just wondering what you think Ollie Henry (Pick 17) and Tanner Bruhn (Pick 12) are worth in individual trades, mate?

Only been with their clubs for 2 years each, and both arguably have more runs on the board than Rankine.

Keen to hear your thoughts


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How's Ollie Henry got more runs on the board than Rankine? Tanner Bruhn as well, please!
 
Just wondering what you think Ollie Henry (Pick 17) and Tanner Bruhn (Pick 12) are worth in individual trades, mate?

Only been with their clubs for 2 years each, and both arguably have more runs on the board than Rankine.

Keen to hear your thoughts


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You serious?

Arguably more runs on the board?
 
Just wondering what you think Ollie Henry (Pick 17) and Tanner Bruhn (Pick 12) are worth in individual trades, mate?

Only been with their clubs for 2 years each, and both arguably have more runs on the board than Rankine.

Keen to hear your thoughts


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The bolded is just straight-up untrue lol

Late first or early second seems about right for them, though. Whilst like I’ve said in the past, I’d have Rankine as pick 8-12
 
My opinion is pick 5 is his value. The guy is one of the most talented players in the game and had his first decent season, suggesting an upward trajectory. Still a bit speculative and if that wasn't the case, he'd be worth more.

The question is should we be using high draft capital on that type of player (forward with some mid minutes) when we have a much more important need? I'm not talking using pick 5 for a mid in the draft. I mean targeting a current player who is more likely to give us good output within the next few years.

That's probably a no from me.

The positive would be we're bringing in another highly talented and skilled player. If he ends up like Bolton then it's going to be happy days.

He COULD be one of the most talented players in the game, but he needs to back that up with consistent form, and we are trading him in based off half a year of good form out of 4 seasons. WILD


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He COULD be one of the most talented players in the game, but he needs to back that up with consistent form, and we are trading him in based off half a year of good form out of 4 seasons. WILD


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Jordan Dawson ring any bells, only really had his breakout year when we grabbed him, nearly unheard of before that by most on this board.
 
Outside of Keays Pedlar is our tallest midfielder atm. Keays is 185cm still a tad under 6'1 and Pedlar is 184cm. But in comparison to our other mids they're kinda giants. :p

For reference JHF is 185cm but I'd be happy for a straight swap with our other 185cm mid @ Port. We are really missing that explosive elite mid 188 or + and we haven't had that since Danger departed at the end of 2015 and by the looks of it, we won't have it in 2023. That is not all that far off a decade.
For reference, everyone's favourite big bodied mid Christian Petracca is 186cm.

It's not about height, it's about power and class.
 
He COULD be one of the most talented players in the game, but he needs to back that up with consistent form, and we are trading him in based off half a year of good form out of 4 seasons. WILD


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That's how development works though. You're a potentially good player until you start playing well, and then you're a good player. Fogarty was a patchy AFL player who had shown glimpses but might never make it until midway through this season and now he would command significant trade value if he was up for trade. Half a year of good form is significant if you're an early career player and it was the most recent half year.

I mean obviously it's possible Rankine turns out to be a mediocre player and the deal is a disaster but that's possible with a draft pick or with any other trade. I think it's odds on he will be very good.
 
He COULD be one of the most talented players in the game, but he needs to back that up with consistent form, and we are trading him in based off half a year of good form out of 4 seasons. WILD


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He was one of the most talented players before he was even drafted. Not sure if you were born back then, but he was freakishly talented even in the year prior to his draft.

Turning that talent into performance has taken a while.
 
Yuk, giving that future 2nd is not great for us. That pick will be in the early 20's in a strong draft.

Got to hope that is the sticking point for us and we are pushing back.
I'd say we are waiting for the future 3rd from Collingwood as the reported "sweetener".
 
Maybe you should be a recruiting expert since you think you can tell 14 games in he isnt going to be elite , fmd even danger wasnt elite when he started

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I prefer being your tutor.

You've completely written off Jackson Hately I take it?

Don't think Brett Turner makes it?

Brett Turner is our rebuilds elite midfield prospect 😂

Pick 5 for one the most talented young players in the comp is completely fair. He will instantly be our most talented player, would pick 5 be?

Why do we want to be fair?
 
People can put up as much draft highlights as they like, his ‘talent’ and ‘potential’ before being drafted was excellent, but his time at GC has shown only glimpses of that talent, and it certainly hasn’t produced any consistent form.

If you’re coughing up Pick 5 you want it to be for someone who ticks all the boxes, and he doesn’t. Cerra for example went for Pick 6, is a bonafide midfield gun that got traded to Carlton off the back of a brilliant run of form and DID tick all the boxes. Rankine nowhere close.

A lot of people on this thread trying to polish an absolute turd of a trade.


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This. Excellent POV.
 
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