Player Watch Jordan De Goey

[The Royal Sampler]

If the AFLPA still exists, they will surely not permit any sanction of De Goey.

a) he was on his break from the club
b) he has broken no AFL rule
c) there is insufficient evidence to suggest he broke any law, and certainly no charges are on the horizon

If the AFL wants to act in lieu of the High Court of Australia, they’re going to have to write up a new CBA and find someone, in fact around 600 someones willing to endorse it.

Any threat of a sanction is surely an ambit claim.

Luckily however it wasn’t Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

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M/F

Career

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Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

doing cocaine in Bali, or he’d probably be up on the death penalty.

 

[Apex36]

You think pulling girls tops down is fine?

Do you think publishing a still shot from the video on a public forum from said incident, to determine if any nipple was showing is any more fine?

Hypocrite.

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

Got an example?


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Wayne Harmes 1979, Anthony Rocca 2002 & Maynard 2018.

 

[golazo]

Were they that big?

I’ll have to go back and look at the score review

Review complete. Footage clearly shows that despite being surgically enhanced, there’s not enough evidence to reverse the original decision of C to a D.

 

[Masked Magician]

Wonder if she ran it past the club that she would go to the herald sun?

 

[sideswipe]

Wayne Harmes 1979, Anthony Rocca 2002 & Maynard 2018.

Awesome examples. You could be right. It’s all a big conspiracy.


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[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

Awesome examples. You could be right. It’s all a big conspiracy.


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Phil Carmen 1977. Anthony Rocca 2003. Trent Cotchin 2017, come on down!

 

[Masked Magician]

De Goey should apologise if anyone was offended without the context of a consensual outing with the female.

There should be no sanction.

Dustin Martin was forced to apologise for threatening to stab a female. No ban.

Richmond star Dustin Martin apologises after threatening woman with chopstick

Richmond's Dustin Martin threatened to stab a fellow restaurant patron with a chopstick after she told the drunken Tiger to stop acting offensively at a Chapel St eatery on Saturday night.

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Richmond's Dustin Martin threatened to stab a fellow restaurant patron with a chopstick after she told the drunken Tiger to stop acting offensively at a Chapel Street eatery on Saturday night, according to a club source.

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The woman at the centre of the Dustin Martin furore speaks out about the actions of Richmond footballer Dustin Martin.
The female customer, a producer who works at Channel 7, said she was threatened with a chopstick. She phoned the club on Monday to complain about the midfielder's threatening behaviour.
The Tiger, who has been punished by the club in the past for several off-field incidents, was asked to leave by management at Mr Miyagi Japanese restaurant in Windsor.


Dustin Martin found trouble again.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
Martin was sitting at the bar with a friend and, it is understood, was drunk, loud and offensive when the woman asked him to calm down. The request reportedly only agitated Martin further, prompting him to intimidate and threaten her with the utensil.
"He reacted extremely angrily, very very agitated, began swearing at me, standing over me physically, it was extremely intimidating," the Sydney woman, identified as "Tracey", told Seven News.
She said Martin "physically stood over me, held a chopstick above my head and threatened to stab me in the face with a chopstick".
The woman then told Martin that she was going to inform Richmond of his behaviour, which angered the star player further.
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"And he said are you going to dob on me? And I said 'Well I will be calling the club on Monday," she said.
"To which he reacted by slamming his hand next to my head into the wall, which at that point was obviously extremely terrifying."
On Monday, a contrite Martin called the female customer and apologised to her for his behaviour.
A club spokesman said that Martin's behaviour was clearly unacceptable, that he had apologised to the woman in question as well as to the managers and owners of the restaurant.
"He had been drinking and was clearly disruptive to other diners and a female patron," the spokesman confirmed.

"He has subsequently called her and apologised and that apology has been accepted. His behaviour was not good enough."
Martin said in a statement released by the club late on Monday afternoon: "Regrettably, I was intoxicated and that, in itself, is completely unacceptable.

"I do, however, take responsibility for my behaviour and I am deeply embarrassed.

"If anything I have said or done has caused anyone to feel threatened, then that is totally inappropriate."

The statement said the club leaders would talk to Martin later in the week and consider what action to take.
Trouble has found Martin several times in his AFL career.
He was fined $2000 last season for the relatively minor offence of sticking his finger up at Collingwood fans in the crowd during a match.
Off the field, he has also been of concern to the Tigers at times. In 2012, he was suspended by the club after he and then teammate Daniel Connors

Daniel Connors

Age

36

Ht

186cm

Wt

84kg

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Def

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Last 5

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17.7

4star

K

11.3

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.8

4star

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D

14.2

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.6

3star

slept in after taking sleeping tablets.

Martin admitted he had had a couple of drinks when he took the sleeping tablets, but the incident came in the wake of the Stilnox scandal at the London Olympics involving Australian swimmers abusing sleeping tablets.
At that stage in 2012, Martin had already been banned twice by the club for misbehaving and been given several other warnings by the coach and football department for his behaviour.
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[sideswipe]

Phil Carmen 1977. Anthony Rocca 2003. Trent Cotchin 2017, come on down!

The bloke who made the final call on Cloke and Rocca was a massive Pies fan.


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[stui magpie]

Storm in a D cup.

Keep the thread rolling.

Check out her Instagram page, Definite C, likely D.

And in relation to the question from elsewhere, is it OK to pull a womans top down? The answer is Yes if she's OK with it and No if she's not. Someone tried, slowly, her reaction was jovial, she put her hand in place to replace the top and the male hand moved away. Looked like flirtatious behaviour to me from a couple who'd spent a few hour together, not walking up to a random you've never met before and saying "show us your ****" and trying to pull the top down.

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

De Goey should apologise if anyone was offended without the context of a consensual outing with the female.

There should be no sanction.

Dustin Martin was forced to apologise for threatening to stab a female. No ban.

Richmond star Dustin Martin apologises after threatening woman with chopstick

Richmond's Dustin Martin threatened to stab a fellow restaurant patron with a chopstick after she told the drunken Tiger to stop acting offensively at a Chapel St eatery on Saturday night.

www.theage.com.au

Richmond's Dustin Martin threatened to stab a fellow restaurant patron with a chopstick after she told the drunken Tiger to stop acting offensively at a Chapel Street eatery on Saturday night, according to a club source.

​

The woman at the centre of the Dustin Martin furore speaks out about the actions of Richmond footballer Dustin Martin.
The female customer, a producer who works at Channel 7, said she was threatened with a chopstick. She phoned the club on Monday to complain about the midfielder's threatening behaviour.
The Tiger, who has been punished by the club in the past for several off-field incidents, was asked to leave by management at Mr Miyagi Japanese restaurant in Windsor.


Dustin Martin found trouble again.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
Martin was sitting at the bar with a friend and, it is understood, was drunk, loud and offensive when the woman asked him to calm down. The request reportedly only agitated Martin further, prompting him to intimidate and threaten her with the utensil.
"He reacted extremely angrily, very very agitated, began swearing at me, standing over me physically, it was extremely intimidating," the Sydney woman, identified as "Tracey", told Seven News.
She said Martin "physically stood over me, held a chopstick above my head and threatened to stab me in the face with a chopstick".
The woman then told Martin that she was going to inform Richmond of his behaviour, which angered the star player further.
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"And he said are you going to dob on me? And I said 'Well I will be calling the club on Monday," she said.
"To which he reacted by slamming his hand next to my head into the wall, which at that point was obviously extremely terrifying."
On Monday, a contrite Martin called the female customer and apologised to her for his behaviour.
A club spokesman said that Martin's behaviour was clearly unacceptable, that he had apologised to the woman in question as well as to the managers and owners of the restaurant.
"He had been drinking and was clearly disruptive to other diners and a female patron," the spokesman confirmed.

"He has subsequently called her and apologised and that apology has been accepted. His behaviour was not good enough."
Martin said in a statement released by the club late on Monday afternoon: "Regrettably, I was intoxicated and that, in itself, is completely unacceptable.

"I do, however, take responsibility for my behaviour and I am deeply embarrassed.

"If anything I have said or done has caused anyone to feel threatened, then that is totally inappropriate."

The statement said the club leaders would talk to Martin later in the week and consider what action to take.
Trouble has found Martin several times in his AFL career.
He was fined $2000 last season for the relatively minor offence of sticking his finger up at Collingwood fans in the crowd during a match.
Off the field, he has also been of concern to the Tigers at times. In 2012, he was suspended by the club after he and then teammate Daniel Connors slept in after taking sleeping tablets.

Martin admitted he had had a couple of drinks when he took the sleeping tablets, but the incident came in the wake of the Stilnox scandal at the London Olympics involving Australian swimmers abusing sleeping tablets.
At that stage in 2012, Martin had already been banned twice by the club for misbehaving and been given several other warnings by the coach and football department for his behaviour.
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The difference is that DeGoey has a habit of being caught on film.

 

[bunter]

 

[jmac70]

The bloke who made the final call on Cloke and Rocca was a massive Pies fan.


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It’s a well known fact that God is a Pies fan. Hasn’t helped though.
He’s such a flog.

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

The bloke who made the final call on Cloke and Rocca was a massive Pies fan.


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I question that. If he was a true Pies fan, they would have played.

 

[sideswipe]

I question that. If he was a true Pies fan, they would have played.

True enough


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[The Royal Sampler]

I don’t personally like the show Sex and The City, and one episode included this, so we should all just ban it as it’s misogyny.

 

[jmac70]

The difference is that DeGoey has a habit of being caught on film.

The camera loves him!

 

[jmac70]

I don’t personally like the show Sex and The City, and one episode included this, so we should all just ban it as it’s misogyny.

I find that gif strangely compelling.

 

[Babylove]

I understand where you are coming from. But what of AFL supporters in general, our supporters, female supporters, our AFLW players and Netball players and our Sponsors and the AFL who believe what De Goey has done was offensive, and who has a history of issues with alcohol/ women?

What about them? For the incident you seem to be so worried about we have a 2-5 second video of a hand that may or may not be De Goey doing an action that appears to intend to pull down a women‘s top down. While laughing the woman gestures for the owner of the hand to stop which it did. At least one of the women (and I don’t know which is which so it may be this one) has publicly confirmed that they didn’t feel sexually harassed or assaulted by De Goey.

If the AFL want to show real leadership on respect for women they would seek to speak to the women involved and then release a statement with any details the women are comfortable being made public and confirming any action they are or aren’t taking has been directed by the information these women provide. This would show a lot mor respect and leadership than them taking action to placate a vocal minority that think they have a right to be offended on someone else’s behalf.

Now we all know that De Goey is dumb when away from the club, that has been clear for a long time. And I personally would not be heartbroken if he moved on at the end of the season, either by his own choice or by the club’s. But that I have also felt for a while and this whole Bali saga hasn’t moved the needle in any direction for me.

 

[sr36]

Wayne Harmes 1979, Anthony Rocca 2002 & Maynard 2018.

Umpiring decisions? Was it one or two bad goal umpiring decisions in our favour in the 2011 GF?

 

[sr36]

Were they that big?

I’ll have to go back and look at the score review

Won't be hard to work out. Lots of people are publishing close ups to show their respect for this woman and their disdain for invasions of privacy ...

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

Umpiring decisions? Was it one or two bad goal umpiring decisions in our favour in the 2011 GF?

I can’t remember. It still didn’t change the result sadly.

 

[Wearmouth]

Totally disagree with this. Not sure how you can presume to speak on behalf of females that go to the footy.

I have been a paid up member of Collingwood and AFL for decades and can assure you that neither I nor my female friends/family go to the football because of 'celebrity male superstars'.

You can disagree, but celebrity is celebrity. Male or female. Just like actors/musicians. Sports stars have the same appeal whether you think it or not. They’re appeal isn’t just their talents on the field. And let’s not be naive to think that.

The celebrity can have its advantages and disadvantages. It’s up to the individuals to deal with. But let’s not pretend what the lure is all about.

There is even a whole premise about hall passes. For both males and females that’s openly discussed by the sexes. But yeah, perpetually offended people can easily be offended by any means.


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[TW Sherrin]

A Collingwood diversity and inclusion consultant has called upon the club to be “really decisive” as the Pies consider how to handle Jordan De Goey’s latest nightclub infraction.
Rana Hussain said on Sunday the Pies had to be aware of how De Goey’s latest issues affected women across the entire Collingwood organisation.

She sits on Collingwood Football Club’s Anti-Racism group which was formed after the club’s Do Better report into racism.

De Goey appeared to try to expose a companion’s breast in a Bali nightclub and made lewd signals simulating oral sex.

He will meet with Collingwood on Monday after returning from Bali on Sunday night for a series of high-level meetings with his coach Craig McRae and senior club leaders.

A club that is attempting significant cultural change as it implements policies including those from the Do Better report is aware he has broken no laws over his nightclub antics.

But Collingwood has a heightened obligation with respect to women as a club that has its own AFLW and netball team.

That will guide the club as it considers how to act with De Goey as the AFL looks on before considering any action of its own.
Hussein told ABC TV on Sunday De Goey’s behaviour had consequences across the entire club.


“If I were Collingwood, I’d be looking after the three women’s teams that they house, and the women within that organisation,” Hussain

“Maybe we do scrutinise players too much, but that message coming from Jordan De Goey to me, makes me really bristle.

“He’s had sexual assault allegations and harassment allegations, none of it proven, and he hasn’t been convicted.

“But unlike drug use, harassment and sexual assault and conversations around that and when we condone it in any kind of form, it actually does cause harm. That contributes to the stats that we see – one in two women have experienced sexual harassment and one in five sexual assault. I think it’s now on Collingwood to be really decisive.”
Hussein has also worked for Cricket Australia and Richmond in diversity roles and is a board member for the Victorian Women’s Trust.

Brownlow Medallist Jimmy Bartel says Jordan De Goey’s nightclub antics will scare off rival clubs and allow the Pies to secure him on a cut-price “Boofhead tax”.

The Pies were not aware of De Goey’s intention to release an instagram statement attacking media intrusion and “relentless pursuit and persecution” of athletes.

Collingwood has multiple options _ to back its player in without punishment, release a strongly worded statement reminding De Goey of his obligations, or impose a club punishment on De Goey.

Until they sit down with De Goey to hear his version of events they will make no decision, with his free agency status another complication.

The Pies could decide to defer any contract talks on a new deal despite De Goey’s willingness to re-sign and negotiations continuing in the background

Geelong premiership star Bartel said on Sunday the Pies would eventually sign De Goey on a cheaper deal given his reputation.

“From a list management perspective this is a good thing for Collingwood. It is known if you have a football issue there is a boofhead tax,” he told 3AW.

“It helps Collingwood and eliminates clubs who don’t want the issue.”

Bartel has been a strong campaigner about domestic violence and said respect for women was De Goey’s significant issue.

Former St Kilda and Fremantle coach Ross Lyon said the Pies had to decide whether to keep De Goey or move him on, adamant there was no middle ground that would see him securing him at a discount.

“He’s growing up in the public eye. I would love to see him stay at Collingwood and I think he will. But it’s a sharp reminder to him, you are not a normal citizen and it’s what goes with the territory and your personality. You need to adjust and adapt or it’s going to blow up,” he told Triple M.

One of De Goey’s companions in the Instagram video, Remy Jackson, made clear she had no issues with the Collingwood star’s action in attempting to expose her breast.

“Hey everyone, I can’t believe the backlash towards Jordy & Myself over here in Bali... nothing to see here,” Jackson wrote on Instagram.

I cant get over Bartel being the voice of reason.

What chance his ex was on coke when they were married....

As for the anti racism person well this isn't her area so she should leave it to the experts.

 

[sr36]

As for the anti racism person well this isn't her area so she should leave it to the experts.

I'm shocked that spokespeople are speaking out against a particular incident and person and demanding punishment with so little information about that incident.