Speculation Liam Baker - Reportedly headed west

[Jeremias]

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[Joao]

With all due respect, if that's the asking price, I would be more than happy to walk away...

If that were true, and I don't think it is, no respect is warranted.

 

[tiger_tough]

Like the media are saying about Bailey Smith, he could set terms so only the Eagles could take him, then we find a pick in the 30s to take him with.

Not a chance he'd last until the 30s.

 

[richoatthedisco]

They have contracts, for a year or 2 more

No they don't.

 

[stallon]

Not a chance he'd last until the 30s.

He would last until 30 the same Bailey Smith is supposedly going to last until Geelongs first pick, or luke Ball lasted until pick 31 or whatever it was

 

[stallon]

Unfortunately your list manager and new coach disagree. They absolutely love bakes and desperately want him at your club. I hear pick 14 might not be enough and the stalemate is actually over your 2nd rd pick which we want as well.

The new coach doesnt get a say in it, if anything its just the list manager.

Gee if Richmond want a 2nd round pick as well for a player who is OOC then theyre going to be sorely disappointed.
Tigers seem to be acting like flogs this offseason.

 

[Morro]

The new coach doesnt get a say in it, if anything its just the list manager.

Gee if Richmond want a 2nd round pick as well for a player who is OOC then theyre going to be sorely disappointed.
Tigers seem to be acting like flogs this offseason.

 

[Astro_]

Pick 14 for Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

?

Kidding me right?

 

[stallon]

If Richmond think theyre getting 2 or 3x the value of their players who want out, especially an uncontracted player, then they are clearly being flogs

 

[JackOutback]

Pick 14 for Liam Baker?

Kidding me right?

You should hear what Richmond fans think Daniel Rioli is worth.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Gee if Richmond want a 2nd round pick as well for a player who is OOC then theyre going to be sorely disappointed.
Tigers seem to be acting like flogs this offseason.

No one expects that. I think you're being trolled.

 

[Morro]

If Richmond think theyre getting 2 or 3x the value of their players who want out, especially an uncontracted player, then they are clearly being flogs

Thank you for sharing

 

[stallon]

No one expects that. I think you're being trolled.

Replace it with just pick 14 alone then, same comment

 

[The Falcon Strike]

The new coach doesnt get a say in it, if anything its just the list manager.

Gee if Richmond want a 2nd round pick as well for a player who is OOC then theyre going to be sorely disappointed.
Tigers seem to be acting like flogs this offseason.

Have you not seen our list management over the last few years.

We will pay up for Baker and fold on Barrass

 

[stallon]

Have you not seen our list management over the last few years.

We will pay up for Baker and fold on Barrass

New management

 

[eaglespremiers]

Imagine if our midfield was Wardlaw-Reid-Langford with 10 years to build around them. Instead we have to find a place for hard worker Ginbey, ballerina Hewett and we have useless old Yeo-Kelly starting the team on the back foot.

Weird take, particularly if the rumours about Wardlaw being unwilling to leave Victoria were true.
If you look at the top 20 picks that year Ginbey is one of the better selections.
He has clearly outperformed Tsatas, Mackenzie, Clark, Hollands, Busslinger, Jefferson, Rowston, Allen and Knostanty in this range and a similar level to Michalanney, Humphrey and Phillipou.
The remaining picks of the draft hasn't yielded any great choices (so far) McMullin has played 17 games, Gallagher has played 19 games, Emmett and Cowan have played 15 games and that's about it.
If Hewett is able to perform at the level we know he is capable of (injuries permitting) it seems like it could work out to be a good trade. Also, pre-draft, Wardlaw was far more prone to injury than Hewett.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Weird take, particularly if the rumours about Wardlaw being unwilling to leave Victoria were true.
If you look at the top 20 picks that year Ginbey is one of the better selections.
He has clearly outperformed Tsatas, Mackenzie, Clark, Hollands, Busslinger, Jefferson, Rowston, Allen and Knostanty in this range and a similar level to Michalanney, Humphrey and Phillipou.
The remaining picks of the draft hasn't yielded any great choices (so far) McMullin has played 17 games, Gallagher has played 19 games, Emmett and Cowan have played 15 games and that's about it.
If Hewett is able to perform at the level we know he is capable of (injuries permitting) it seems like it could work out to be a good trade. Also, pre-draft, Wardlaw was far more prone to injury than Hewett.

I like Ginbey. Looks better at half-back than on-ball but that's okay. We hoped Vlastuin would become a mid and he did play some good games there early in his career (one in Perth against you guys) but ultimately we had to settle for a champion HBF.

Bo Allan could go the same way, although I'd hope he makes it as a mid.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

The new coach doesnt get a say in it, if anything its just the list manager.

Gee if Richmond want a 2nd round pick as well for a player who is OOC then theyre going to be sorely disappointed.
Tigers seem to be acting like flogs this offseason.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Unfortunately your list manager and new coach disagree. They absolutely love bakes and desperately want him at your club. I hear pick 14 might not be enough and the stalemate is actually over your 2nd rd pick which we want as well.

Oh dear.

I love Bakes, but that's ridiculous.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Bo Allan could go the same way, although I'd hope he makes it as a mid.

I would prefer to get Travaglia than Allan TBH.

 

[richoatthedisco]

I would prefer to get Travaglia than Allan TBH.

Plenty would. I expect he'll be drafted first.

 

[dean33]

Oh dear.

I love Bakes, but that's ridiculous.

Yes it is.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

New management

New management is already saying baker is worth a pick in the teens

New management, same shitty service

I'd accept it if it was with Bulldogs - we have had a great working relationship with them - some wins, some losses - but generally a great trading relationship.

But with everyone else - we try and be the good guys to form a working relationship and we always get bent over

 

[stallon]

New management is already saying baker is worth a pick in the teens

New management, same shitty service

I'd accept it if it was with Bulldogs - we have had a great working relationship with them - some wins, some losses - but generally a great trading relationship.

But with everyone else - we try and be the good guys to form a working relationship and we always get bent over

They still havent done anything yet

 

[Morro]

New management is already saying baker is worth a pick in the teens

New management, same shitty service

I'd accept it if it was with Bulldogs - we have had a great working relationship with them - some wins, some losses - but generally a great trading relationship.

But with everyone else - we try and be the good guys to form a working relationship and we always get bent over

Id suggest it says more about you and the fans that share your opinion than it does the people in the know at your club, you know, the people that do it for a living and watch more than a couple of the targets games

 

[Footy Smarts]

West Coast maybe offering up pick 14 is nuts. He's out of contract. You hold the leverage.

This should be WC's 2nd rounder and eventually Richmond relents and accepts. Throw in pick 65+ if Richmond need to pretend they held out for something valuable.