I am v much of this view as well. Really happy with both. I find the criticism esp of Durdin unwarranted. Has shown more than expected to this point, and both have clearly shown the traits that kids demonstrate early on who go on to develop into very good footballers.
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BuxbaumBixby
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I think we might be seeing a slight cultural shift happening with respect to list management - obviously the focal point right now are the Cats.
I'm putting 1 and 1 together and making 5 - so it'd be interesting to see some more rigourous statistical analysis across the league.
I reckon there is more "risk" being applied to drafting young guys, weighing the effort and money invested into their development, and then the potential of them taking off after 2 years. (they should lift the draft age)
Geelong is setting a bit of a blueprint - with continued investment in mature players - while Higgins might not be considered a win - hard to see too many misses. They 'managed' guys well this year. Richmond are following a similar pathway.
As an industry - the AFL is getting better at managing bodies and extending careers. Players themselves are probably looking after themseleves a bit better.
So this feeds to my $0.02 on our list ... I don't think we should be shy in looking at a couple of guys in the 28-32 age range if they are the right fit, and nor do I think we jettison a guy like Ed, just because he's 'old'.
Overall, it's good for footy if the industry can get more out of older players and extend careers. (especially if we're going to have to go through another cycle with expansion clubs).
I'm putting 1 and 1 together and making 5 - so it'd be interesting to see some more rigourous statistical analysis across the league.
I reckon there is more "risk" being applied to drafting young guys, weighing the effort and money invested into their development, and then the potential of them taking off after 2 years. (they should lift the draft age)
Geelong is setting a bit of a blueprint - with continued investment in mature players - while Higgins might not be considered a win - hard to see too many misses. They 'managed' guys well this year. Richmond are following a similar pathway.
As an industry - the AFL is getting better at managing bodies and extending careers. Players themselves are probably looking after themseleves a bit better.
So this feeds to my $0.02 on our list ... I don't think we should be shy in looking at a couple of guys in the 28-32 age range if they are the right fit, and nor do I think we jettison a guy like Ed, just because he's 'old'.
Overall, it's good for footy if the industry can get more out of older players and extend careers. (especially if we're going to have to go through another cycle with expansion clubs).
Schache can be serviceable , good endurance and footy IQ , kick ok too and a good decoy tall forward , consider the impact Charlie & Harry would create.
Also could support Ruck position should it be struck with injuries.
Overall if he’s at a bargain cost, he wouldn’t be worst Ruck/ KP support .
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Schache at worst improves our VFL side. At best he becomes a serviceable AFL player if Charlie or Harry go down. Seems a no brainer.
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I agree with the sentiment but disagree re: the lack of misses.
Just off the top of my head, they've had Higgins, Dahlhaus, Jenkins, Steven over the past couple of years. Reckon there may be a few others I'm forgetting too.
The misses are largely irrelevant though when you have one or two wins, which they of course have.
Would rather take Sproule over Schache as cover, who would also chop out in the ruck
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Where's all this Schache talk coming from, tell me it's a fallacy.
Is it because he was an early draft pick, a lot of Jack Watts about this, yuk, no thanks.
Is it because he was an early draft pick, a lot of Jack Watts about this, yuk, no thanks.
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Schache is no good and most importantly doesn't seem to have it in him mentally. I would steer well clear.
any chance we get Tom Mitchell ? Hawks seem keen to ditch him even if they have to pay some of his contract
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Jack Watts played 175 games of league footy. True story.
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I think that you have to see him through the Oscar McDonald prism (but one who hopefully is not perpetually injured).
Break in case of emergency and hope that he doesn't play but if he does have to play can at least contribute at either end. I'd prefer him to MacAsey for example. Provided he was on minimum salary and cost us a suffle of fourth rounders only id ve o.k. with it.
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Would take Jefferson at 10 and pair him with Schache or another depth fwd/ruck. Shores up our depth and our future.
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You could probably mount a fair argument that Higgins and Dahlhaus haven't actually been misses - and contributed to the squads development. Jenkins and Steven probably the true 'misses'.
Re Schache discussion - what is he 24? 25? - lot more exposed form to fill our backup KP stocks than any draft pick. Take a first round and a second round draft pick - then fill the holes with proven mature-agers with the right attitude.
I’d be ok to get Schache to stand on the mark whilst the forwards practice goal kicking at training, but that’s about it.
4flagsin5yrs
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how times change...
11 days to the draft: Meet the best forward in the draft Josh Schache
The best forward in the draft is shaping as the No.2 pick overall
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201cm, 94kg.
just turned 25, only 72 games thus far.
Josh Schache of the Melbourne Demons Player Profile and AFL Stats
Josh Schache of the Melbourne Demons profile and AFL statistics.
www.footywire.com
Worth a roll of the dice imo.
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Schache is a bust. Avoid.
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Well, there you go
I can't think of any but maybe you can correct me on this. How many memorable ones?
4flagsin5yrs
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Guess we'll see find out if Austin agrees....
Schache can't take a contested mark, makes it tough as a kpf. Break glass option I guess, not best 22 with a healthy list.
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I remember an AFL game a few years back when Schache had a big day out against Weitering. Had 2 possessions.
Never seen Weitering so angry with himself for letting that happen. One of his dark days on a football field.
Enough to warrant Port paying a second round pick and most people thinking they had gotten a steal. He was good at Port too.
Watts was a genuine best 22 type in the league, he just had the misfortune of being picked about 20 spots too high. I don’t think he’s the best analogy for Schachen is all
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