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Lachie neale had a busted ankle all finals series , every player is banged up in the finals.

No excuse
 
Nah. Geelong’s First XXIII was stacked with 30+ yos: Dangerfield, Stanley, Blicavs, Duncan, Guthrie, Stewart, Cameron, Bews, Hawkins, Rohan, Tuohy.

Currently, only two of our First XXIII for 2025 are 30+ = Aliir, Wines. I don’t count Boak, Soldo, Atkins as 2025 best XXIII.

Ken claimed we had the youngest team in the finals. Don’t know if that’s true but it would be close. This is the second finals campaign in a row in which we have limped to the line. However, the solution is not resting 20 yos, it’s toughening the f@#$ up. That happens naturally as players go from early 20’s to late 20’s. Organic growth.
So another 7 years and Ken will have a list primed to go for gold 😂
I'll enjoy the ride up until then 😒🥺
 

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I had a doctor run an hour and a half late for an appointment today so I thought Id have a look at comments around Quinton Narkle on the Facebook site AFL Trades Delistings, Retirements and Free Agents. I was surprised at how many Port supporters were disappointed at his delisting. According to them he's been terrific in many games as a sub.Im fine with those disagree but in my view our sub players were terrible in 2024 bar Wagner and NOD for a game.

I had the time and I looked at his stats. By my count he played 13 games 8 of which he started as sub in 2024. After he had an interrupted preseason and then he suffered two injuries that resulted him missing six weeks and 3 weeks. After a couple of SANFL games after injury he returned to the team playing mostly sub. I checked his stat and what he regularly had as a sub was mathes raging from 4-10 possessions in games where had around 23% game. He also had an 13 possession game as sub but he played 40% so he got subbed early. H normally plays a high half forward role when he's sub due to Ports midfield depth as they want to keep their best players on the ground.

I also asked about his defensive running and was told he's played mostly midfield in the SANFL games he played as he did in the VFL and he's improved a ton. He's certainly had a few big possession games including 33 possessions in the game before he debuted in 2023 and a SANFL games he played late in 2024 after playing a series of games as a sub where he had 32 possessions.

So why was he delisted then. According to Port supporters they think the coaches want to get games into young mids and Narkle's 26 and there was a list squeeze which does make sense.

After looking into him Ive done a 180 degree turn and changed my mind. I think he feels a list need playing sub. Im confident many will change their mind after the 1st preseason reports. Here's an example of what he offers Here's his highlight from 3 afl games played in 2023 after coming over as a midseason draftee.


 
We have only a couple of First XXIII players we need to think about replacing in a few years: Aliir (30), Wines (30) and Rioli (29).

The question I have is, do we really need a big bodied midfielder to replace Wines? Neither Brisbane nor Sydney had one in 2024. Our midfield in 2004 (James, Burgoyne, Carr, Kornes) didn’t have one.

You certainly need some toughness but we have JHF, Drew and Butters who fit this bill. Sure, if you can jag an Oliver, Bontempelli, Petracca or Cripps- go for it, but to my mind you simply look for class and toughness in the midfield and we are already stacked there.

Our priority ought to be (a) a classy goal kicking small forward (preferably one who can play in 2025) and a tall defender for the future.
Dunkley and Rowbottom are both that bigger bodied player. It’s an important role, particularly in the dog days of winter.
 
Really need to follow the Geelong model and rest players through the season
But that doesn't help Kenny get a new contract in time for August.
 
Come on down 2nd rounder + VFL player!
Need him to have an AA calibre year.

His stupid move to the wing for half a season, really lowered his currency. Get him firing for 22 rounds, intercepting everything and hopefully we can get his value right back up where it feels like it belongs.
 
Need him to have an AA calibre year.

His stupid move to the wing for half a season, really lowered his currency. Get him firing for 22 rounds, intercepting everything and hopefully we can get his value right back up where it feels like it belongs.
Bulldust, we tried to develop a promising player. For all of Ken’s knocks, this ain’t one of them. If he played 200 games in a Back Pocket and left end of 2025 for more opportunities or midfield minutes we would all blow up for that…
 

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Pies: 2023 premiership player Oleg Markov and forward Ash Johnson were delisted ‘with a commitment’ from the Pies to be re-listed through the rookie draft.
 
Bulldust, we tried to develop a promising player. For all of Ken’s knocks, this ain’t one of them. If he played 200 games in a Back Pocket and left end of 2025 for more opportunities or midfield minutes we would all blow up for that…
100% it is. It was stupid then, and stupid now. He has never done anything other than fail on the wing every time he's played there. That was fact at the start of the year and still is. He is an elite intercepting defender, it's so god damn obvious.

My problem isn't that he's leaving, it is that, he was so bad in the first half of last season, on a wing, that we know him as a hugely valuable, first round pick. But opposition sides when trading for him won't be valuing him as highly. He needs a big year for his currency to be clearly very high, if we are to lose him and maximise the trade return we get for him.
 
100% it is. It was stupid then, and stupid now. He has never done anything other than fail on the wing every time he's played there. That was fact at the start of the year and still is. He is an elite intercepting defender, it's so god damn obvious.

My problem isn't that he's leaving, it is that, he was so bad in the first half of last season, on a wing, that we know him as a hugely valuable, first round pick. But opposition sides when trading for him won't be valuing him as highly. He needs a big year for his currency to be clearly very high, if we are to lose him and maximise the trade return we get for him.
Regrettably, it didn’t make a skerrick of difference when we trade an under contract Houston.
 
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I don't know if incentive is the problem. Not much you can do about being slow.

He doesn’t look fit or interested, he’s extremely lucky to be on the list tbh.


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Don’t understand the Mead hate by some. Has only played 44 games. Has come off a horrific injury to his spleen. Yes, he is likely an average midfielder in the AFL, maybe slightly above. You are not going to have a team of all elite midfielders unless we are demolishing teams week in, week out. I think he will improve as he gets more experience.

in 2024 he played all 26 games and did start to look tired towards the end of the year. Maybe should have rested him at some point.

Needs a Boak trip to the US if he’s remotely serious.


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Dunkley and Rowbottom are both that bigger bodied player. It’s an important role, particularly in the dog days of winter.
With Dunkley you make a good point against my argument- he’s bigger than I thought.

With Rowbottom you prove my point- he is smaller than Drew and only 2cm bigger than JHF.

The point is, you need tough contested ball winners, not necessarily big bodied midfielders.
 
I see the coaching dept philosophy has filtered through to the strength and conditioning/fitness dept. Not only do the players need to coach themselves, they need to organise their own fitness regime. Name one thing that Chris Davies does well at Port Adelaide. Not *ing one.
Theyre going with our physios. Having our younger players head to the states to learn more about their bodies and injury prevention is a great outcome isn't it? If anything it's a win for Davies. I understand that you don't like Koch, Richardson, Hinkley, Cripps, Davies, Cornes etc etc etc but getting peeved about our fitness team accompanying young players to the states seems like you're just looking for things to be grumpy about.

If I had to name one thing that Davies has done well (since you asked) I like our recruiting team. I think up until Houston we've done well at keeping who we've wanted to keep while getting a few stars like JHF, Rozee, Butters, Bergman, Rioli etc.
 
Need him to have an AA calibre year.

His stupid move to the wing for half a season, really lowered his currency. Get him firing for 22 rounds, intercepting everything and hopefully we can get his value right back up where it feels like it belongs.
Isn’t next years draft crapola? Serves no purpose. Anchor him here
 
Kane Farrell a free agent next year
 

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