LIVE Federal Election Coverage 2016

[Taylor]

It will, eventually. There will be an issue with privacy because your name will be checked off the electronic book (time and location) and then a vote cast (time and location logged) so the people in the room when the vote is cast will be known.

 

[The Speaker]

What's up with all the technophobes? It's gonna happen eventually.

Says who?

 

[romeohwho]

Greens vote in South Australian is down

Liberal 32.67% +5.22%
Australian Labor Party 27.91% +5.25%
Nick Xenophon Team 21.81% -3.07%
The Greens 5.62% -1.47%

Those figures aren't right are they? Is this for SA only?
I thought Libs down, Alp down, Greens down, Xenophon up?

 

[FireKrakouer]

Says who?

You think in the year 2100 we'll be waiting 13 days for postal votes? Doubt paper will even exist. How about the year 2200?

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

You think in the year 2100 we'll be waiting 13 days for postal votes? Doubt paper will even exist. How about the year 2200?

I'm sorry to say Australia did not survive the Eddie McGuire-Dawn Fraser Presidential Race.

 

[The Speaker]

You think in the year 2100 we'll be waiting 13 days for postal votes? Doubt paper will even exist. How about the year 2200?

I hesitate to imagine the nation in 200 years from now, but I don't see why not.

Paper will always exist.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

You're right - I'm incredibly disillusioned with all of it, and it's only going to get worse.

I just can't understand why we allow elections and MPs to behave so deplorably, with almost zero accountability, when they should be held to a higher standard than anyone else.

I agree wholeheartedly. I've thought for a long time Parliament should be subject to perjury laws.

 

[JackOutback]

Anonymity is at the heart of a democratic vote and I'm not convinced that there's a technological solution yet that doesn't severely compromise that anonymity.

 

[Forward Press]

Those figures aren't right are they? Is this for SA only?
I thought Libs down, Alp down, Greens down, Xenophon up?

It isn't. More LesterBurnham rubbish. Greens vote is down, but so are the majors thanks to Nick Xenophon Team.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/

Coalition 35.3% (-9.6%)
Labor 31.8% (-3.9%)
NXT 21.2% (+21.2%)
Greens 5.9% (-2.4%)

Historically the Greens have rarely done well in SA.

 

[Visions]

It isn't. More LesterBurnham rubbish. Greens vote is down, but so are the majors thanks to Nick Xenophon Team.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/

Coalition 35.3% (-9.6%)
Labor 31.8% (-3.9%)
NXT 21.2% (+21.2%)
Greens 5.9% (-2.4%)

Historically the Greens have rarely done well in SA.

Ah no, Lester is correct. He was responding to a post on SHY and the Senate situation.

First preferences in SA, Libs and Labor are up, NXT and Greens are down.

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/SenateStateFirstPrefsByGroup-20499-SA.htm

 

[Forward Press]

Ah no, Lester is correct. He was responding to a post on SHY and the Senate situation.

First preferences in SA, Libs and Labor are up, NXT and Greens are down.

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/SenateStateFirstPrefsByGroup-20499-SA.htm

My bad then.

Not entirely surprising results.

 

[telsor]

I dunno, I think SHY should fall into the category of prominent people from a party that might annoy people who don't share their policy views, so the level of hatred should be similar that held by some towards a Julie Bishop or Tanya Plibersek. She's certainly not in the category of a Trump or Hanson. However, the hatred aimed at her seems to be way out of whack for what it should be. I don't claim to know for sure why that is, but it seems over the top.

Nah, Bishop & Pilbersek are both in parties trying to keep most people happy.

SHY & Hanson are in parties that are at the (opposite) fringes and have relatively little support.

I suspect it's generally true across all walks of life that regularly and passionately expressing ideas that most people disagree with makes you more dislikable.

 

[JackOutback]

Nah, Bishop & Pilbersek are both in parties trying to keep most people happy.

SHY & Hanson are in parties that are at the (opposite) fringes and have relatively little support.

I suspect it's generally true across all walks of life that regularly and passionately expressing ideas that most people disagree with makes you more dislikable.

But you've not really provided examples of SHY's extreme or fringe views that people would disagree with. Treating asylum seekers humanely? Making corporations pay more tax? A royal commission into banks? She's not in the same sphere as Pauline.

 

[telsor]

But you've not really provided examples of SHY's extreme or fringe views that people would disagree with. Treating asylum seekers humanely? Making corporations pay more tax? A royal commission into banks? She's not in the same sphere as Pauline.

You think there aren't people who object to those things?

On asylum seekers for example, do you think both major parties support the current policy because most people hate it?

If Greens policies were universally loved, they'd be in power. (or at the very least be getting a lot better than what they are doing).

 

[romeohwho]

You think there aren't people who object to those things?

On asylum seekers for example, do you think both major parties support the current policy because most people hate it?

If Greens policies were universally loved, they'd be in power. (or at the very least be getting a lot better than what they are doing).

They are getting better at what they are doing. 10% of the vote, and at least 1 senator in each state, is jolly good I would have thought. Still, even quite sensible people still have no real clue about the Greens and their policies-that may be a failure on the Green's part, or it may be our reluctance to veer from our traditional two party set up.

 

[telsor]

They are getting better at what they are doing. 10% of the vote, and at least 1 senator in each state, is jolly good I would have thought. Still, even quite sensible people still have no real clue about the Greens and their policies-that may be a failure on the Green's part, or it may be our reluctance to veer from our traditional two party set up.

It's a matter of (ir)relevance.

Why learn the Greens economic policy (for example) when it'll never be implemented? Did you read up on family first's economic policy? (assuming they even have one, because I can tell you for sure I've never looked for it).

What political capital the Greens have/get will be 'traded' for their core policies if they get a deal they can live with...The environment, perhaps with a bit about refugees. If they want it all, then the major parties will tell them where to go, so they use what influence they can to get movement on what matters to them most.

If/when the Greens ever look like getting a real grip on power (somewhere between 25 and 40% of the vote) I imagine they'll get a lot more attention paid to the full range of their policies, both in terms of publicity and scrutiny.

 

[romeohwho]

It's a matter of (ir)relevance.

Why learn the Greens economic policy (for example) when it'll never be implemented? Did you read up on family first's economic policy? (assuming they even have one, because I can tell you for sure I've never looked for it).

What political capital the Greens have/get will be 'traded' for their core policies if they get a deal they can live with...The environment, perhaps with a bit about refugees. If they want it all, then the major parties will tell them where to go, so they use what influence they can to get movement on what matters to them most.

If/when the Greens ever look like getting a real grip on power (somewhere between 25 and 40% of the vote) I imagine they'll get a lot more attention paid to the full range of their policies, both in terms of publicity and scrutiny.

If, as I presume, environmental issues continue to grow in relevance, then perhaps they will gain more power. Early days yet, for these issues for most of the public.

 

[Lester Burnham]

Those figures aren't right are they? Is this for SA only?
I thought Libs down, Alp down, Greens down, Xenophon up?

What part of 'Greens vote in South Australian is down' did you not understand lol

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/senate/#ssa

 

[JackOutback]

You think there aren't people who object to those things?

On asylum seekers for example, do you think both major parties support the current policy because most people hate it?

If Greens policies were universally loved, they'd be in power. (or at the very least be getting a lot better than what they are doing).

You seem to be missing my point (or I'm not making it clearly). Of course there are people who would disagree with her policies, just as there are people who disagree with Bishop or Plibersek's policies. But none of those policies are as fringe or as absurd as Hanson's, to whom you compared her. So again, why does she get a reaction similar to Hanson and not, say, Bishop or Plibersek, when she's clearly not as bad as her? If it was all about policies, Bandt or Di Natale would get similar reactions, but they don't.

 

[Reynolds Number]

LNP officially in front in Capricornia and Flynn due to more postal counting as expected.

 

[JoseMourinho]

Forde called for the Liberal Party.

 

[Smeg Head]

What part of 'Greens vote in South Australian is down' did you not understand lol

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/senate/#ssa

Just looked for the WA senate down -5.3% for them.

 

[mighty tiges]

LNP officially in front in Capricornia and Flynn due to more postal counting as expected.

Absentee votes in Flynn favouring the ALP. Back to just 59 votes (LNP leading).

 

[JoseMourinho]

Absentee votes in Flynn favouring the ALP. Back to just 59 votes (LNP leading).

now back to 250+. Those flynn counters working overtime!

 

[Visions]

Absentee votes in Flynn favouring the ALP. Back to just 59 votes (LNP leading).

Lead back out to 261 after more postals counted. Still over 3000 postals to go with only 1250 absentee (also some pre poll and provisional).