Traded Luke Jackson [Traded with #44 and #67 to Fremantle for #13, F1 and F2]

[Lach72]

So you're saying that Freo are offering 900k+ over 7 years (or whatever it is) for a guy that has shown no more than an unproven 18 year old draftee? Jackson is proven talent + potential. Not just potential.

 

[danster168]

The constant belittling of a 20 year old ruckman has been puzzling. Obviously the clubs understand better than BF posters that showing what Jackson has already shown as a 19 and 20 year old is phenomenal. It seems like some freo fans expected Jackson to be a 4 time All-Australian after 3 seasons. They completely ignored the fact that rucks develop much later than midfielders and tried to spit stats out to show that he hasn't been very good, ignoring what he has already shown and ignoring the fact that he's playing behind one of the greatest rucks to have ever played the game.

 

[danster168]

huh?...do you know the deal? if so, enlighten us.

 

[4Seasons]

Nah, can’t lose Mundy, Lobb, Logue, Acres from the best 22 and improve.

Losing depth like Meek and Tucker who both played a reasonable amount of game time too, won’t help.

We are going into 2023 with one of the youngest, if not the youngest list in the AFL. If you look at 2022 averages we are going to be considerably younger having retired the 87 year old David Mundy. Drops our average age a lot.

It’s possible.
It’s also possible that players like Bradshaw, Serong, Darcy and Young improve even more. Fyfe and Sturt have great years. Eramas and Amiss have break out years. Jackson comes in and performs admirably.

Dockers could then easily make the top 4.

 

[Lach72]

huh?...do you know the deal? if so, enlighten us.

Absolutely not...that's the point

 

[4Seasons]

Well maybe it's good time for Freo fans to reflect on their ability to analyse and rate players. The 2 late firsts talk was nonsense. Like I said time and time and time again, late firsts are glorified 2nd round picks. You're not going to get Jackson by coughing up picks in the teens.

Stop saying “Me” and “I” and talking about yourself in all your posts FFS.

 

[danster168]

Absolutely not...that's the point

so the point is that because we don't know the exact deal we don't have a fair idea on players contracts? I'm pretty sure it's pretty well understood how much players are on these days. We know grundy is on close to a mill a season for example. We know that petracca and Oliver are about the same. We know, that Jackson is going to be on more than 750k and less than a million. And we know it'll be a long term deal.

 

[Obeanie1]

Article is light on details, but said it would be pick 14 + at least 1 x 2nd round pick.

And then 8 plus something for Jackson.

Port want a late 2nd to offer up for Rioli.

 

[Obeanie1]

You can post silly vids all you like.

But its a valid point.

Jackson has shown he wont be a bust and he hasnt reached his peak. That is why Freo are paying him so much for so long.

Not sure how you could disagree. Apart from trolling.

 

[Obeanie1]

Maybe a F2 at minimum.

Which means we're giving up 13, F1, F2, for an ooc player...

Close. Not quite as much as the Kelly deal but Kelly finished top 5 in the Brownlow.

 

[danster168]

I much prefer pick 8 and something else than freo's pick 13 and next years first. If I'm melbourne and the pick 8 turns out to be true, I'd trade pick 8 and a future first for a top 3 pick and try to snare Aaron Cadman.

 

[s_wd6]

I much prefer pick 8 and something else than freo's pick 13 and next years first. If I'm melbourne and the pick 8 turns out to be true, I'd trade pick 8 and a future first for a top 3 pick and try to snare Aaron Cadman.

Perfect so you agree on 8 and a F2?

 

[WilloTree]

I much prefer pick 8 and something else than freo's pick 13 and next years first. If I'm melbourne and the pick 8 turns out to be true, I'd trade pick 8 and a future first for a top 3 pick and try to snare Aaron Cadman.

Who's going to trade 8 and an F1 for pick 3?

F1 is just a glorified 2nd.

 

[Lampers]

He used to be ‘in the know’ with mfc, but believe his sources left the club a year or two ago.

Edit - speculating his sources left the club - has been a few years since he dropped something on the money about the mfc

There were some prominent MFC people who left to Essendon a couple of years back…

Has Clark’s Essendon mail improved since that time?

Clark definitely attended MFC B&F a few years back. I was on the same table with a couple of other journos.

 

[danster168]

Perfect so you agree on 8 and a F2?

I think pick 8 and pick 20. the F2 would have to be an early 2nd imo.

 

[Joao]

I think pick 8 and pick 20. the F2 would have to be an early 2nd imo.

Most likely to be whatever North gives us for Logue, so nominally 19-21 since we'll have to use our own F2 to move up.

 

[Basil brush]

Maybe a F2 at minimum.

Which means we're giving up 13, F1, F2, for an ooc player...

Gee that does seem a lot for a bloke whose position is not solidified at Freo with Sean Darcy there.

Honest question for Freo supporters? Do you think Jackson a better ruck than Darcy, because I am not sure Jackson is a great forward, or is Darcy possibly on the way out?

Apologies if answered earlier in the thread.

 

[Basil brush]

Most likely to be whatever North gives us for Logue, so nominally 19-21 since we'll have to use our own F2 to move up.

Pick 8 and pick 19-21 this year seems fair.

Would mean you keep your future first

 

[Joao]

Gee that does seem a lot for a bloke whose position is not solidified at Freo with Sean Darcy there.

Honest question for Freo supporters? Do you think Jackson a better ruck than Darcy, because I am not sure Jackson is a great forward, or is Darcy possibly on the way out?

Apologies if answered earlier in the thread.

It's got "remember when Freo traded the farm for Luke Jackson" vibes all over it.

Pick 8 and pick 19-21 this year seems fair.

Would mean you keep your future first

As well as I think we can do to be honest. Would be 13 + 2x 2nd round.

 

[s_wd6]

I think pick 8 and pick 20. the F2 would have to be an early 2nd imo.

Cool you can take North's. Deal done. No more debating.

 

[s_wd6]

Gee that does seem a lot for a bloke whose position is not solidified at Freo with Sean Darcy there.

Honest question for Freo supporters? Do you think Jackson a better ruck than Darcy, because I am not sure Jackson is a great forward, or is Darcy possibly on the way out?

Apologies if answered earlier in the thread.

Darcy is a far better ruck. Talk is that Darcy will be main ruck and LJ will play more of hybrid mid/ruck role.

Which again, seems very unnecessary to trade so much for him when we don't even want him as a ruck.

 

[Joao]

I'm hoping that most (including me) have misread his forward abilities because Melbourne's entries are so diabolical and he actually has forward talent. Then this could become a great trade for us... except we have just as bad forward entries as them.

 

[danster168]

Most likely to be whatever North gives us for Logue, so nominally 19-21 since we'll have to use our own F2 to move up.

I could agree on that.

 

[Basil brush]

As well as I think we can do to be honest. Would be 13 + 2x 2nd round.

Yeah, or you could say 13 plus Logue plus your future 2nd but all semantics. There may also be some late swaps involved as well

I think you guys should definitely try and keep your future 1st if the rumours about next year's draft being very good are correct.

 

[Joao]

I could agree on that.

Yes it's palatable. I don't necessarily believe that Port give up 8 for just an F2 though so a bit to play out.