McLeod doesn't feel like past players are welcome at the Crows

[GROTTO]

Yep, and I’m sure at least of his feelings are justified.
But I think it’s a relationship we’re letting drift apart, than actively trying to break up.

This is actually an easy fix.

Club admits there is faults, gets a mediator to resolve issues on both sides. Club at least makes some concessions from what McLeod has said.

We can then all move on and forward. Put it down to a learning experience and learning to be a better Club.

FFS it isnt that hard, but our Club makes everything so damn difficult unnecessarily at times.

Yet instead of getting a mediator, they will spend $1000s on some gimmicky promotion to kick off 2021.

 

[Mego Red]

This is actually an easy fix.

Club admits there is faults, gets a mediator to resolve issues on both sides. Club at least makes some concessions from what McLeod has said.

We can then all move on and forward. Put it down to a learning experience and learning to be a better Club.

FFS it isnt that hard, but our Club makes everything so damn difficult unnecessarily at times.

Yet instead of getting a mediator, they will spend $1000s on some gimmicky promotion to kick off 2021.

It's hard to mediate "you're not paying me anymore".

I agree with your sentiments, though.

 

[GROTTO]

It's hard to mediate "you're not paying me anymore".

I agree with your sentiments, though.

Footy Clubs landscapes change all the time.

In COVID free environment in 2021 potentially, I can see the resources coming into the Club to be able to pay someone like McLeod to fulfill a role down there.

 

[Southerntakeover]

(Edit - just read Southerntakeover's post. I think it's naive to not acknowledge that McLeod hasn't at times made situations worse. You can believe there should be statue of him outside Adelaide Oval and still think that).

No, you cannot give McLeod the respect and status he deserves in our club and still thing that his speaking truth to power is wrong.

There is no ambiguity here.

 

[Southerntakeover]

It's hard to mediate "you're not paying me anymore".

I agree with your sentiments, though.

What a disgraceful imputation you're deliberately causing.

 

[FantasticShirt]

I’ve heard rumors for a while that there’s enormous question marks over the running of the Centre of Excellence program. Particularly over management of the financials.

 

[GROTTO]

I’ve heard rumors for a while that there’s enormous question marks over the running of the Centre of Excellence program. Particularly over management of the financials.

While I love the Crows, Im more likely to believe McLeod then the Crows telling the truth about everything down there being right.

TBH this shouldnt be the case at good Clubs.

 

[ad victoriam]

While I love the Crows, Im more likely to believe McLeod then the Crows telling the truth about everything down there being right.

TBH this shouldnt be the case at good Clubs.

And Yet the Crows have turned over 80% of the people he would have an issue with,
To me, this story is OLD, A reporter sitting at home has come up with a feature clickbait piece base on Macca article in June, and the closing down of his Program well before June, then he adds the fact he not spending a couple of Hours a week assisting the AFLW team,

To me its The Media looking for a story and were been suck in like sheep.
Crows supporters are turning into suckers and the media playing us. And yes we are being Played.
What I find interesting is "Neither the club nor McLeod would speak or could be contacted about the split this week"

If this was Port there supporters would be all over the media demanding better, blaming the media, in fact, most other AFL clubs supporters would be doing the same.

this article is an insult to Macca. and the Crows, and assume's all Crows supporters are sheep,

 

[GrommoT]

McLeod should be treated like the legend he is, period. That's how you show respect for his legacy. It's not like he slept with another players wife for God sake, and even then North Melbourne still bent over backwards to try and bring Carey back into the fold.

A little criticism and all you get is club mouth pieces rubbishing his character and personality.to discredit him.

This is ridiculously weak.

McLeod a club legend is not ever going to change while those currently serving in admin will be gone sooner or later.

Hopefully the next group of admin can bring Macca back into the fold.

 

[Mego Red]

McLeod a club legend is not ever going to change while those currently serving in admin will be gone sooner or later.

Hopefully the next group of admin can bring Macca back into the fold.

He's still a legend of the club.

He should have a statue at Adelaide Oval, as one of the greatest indigenous players to have ever played.

But let's be realistic.

This is a falling out over money and respect. Not the respect offered to him as a club champion, but the respect of his post football foundation and the resources that should be provided for it.

I just don't see anything else that motivates this.

 

[GROTTO]

McLeod a club legend is not ever going to change while those currently serving in admin will be gone sooner or later.

Hopefully the next group of admin can bring Macca back into the fold.

+1

In 77 years time, when the Crows celebrate their 100th anniversary of winning their first Club, one of the people that will be remembered and acknowledged in helping achieve this is Andrew McLeod

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Not a single person from admin that didnt perform satisfactorily will be recognized or cared about.

I will make sure I post that on here. Bookmark it.

 

[feenix67]

Old news and a bit of anti crows muck raking by the Rag.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Not sure how everyone else feels about the McLeod situation, but in my opinion no player, current or past, is bigger than the club. Full stop.

Sure it’s fine to shower past players with admiration and adulation, but some people put them ahead of club interests and have them at Demi-god status. The club has that status, no one else.

Too many people on this board LOVE the drama, and they almost feed off the negativity that’s put out there in the media.

Make no mistake, Andrew McLeod

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has been looked after by our club, and it’s our club that has given him everything. Respect is earned, and for me it’s an ongoing process. It can be lost as quickly as it’s gained.

It’s ok to judge how McLeod acts towards our club in retirement. For anyone who thinks it was ok for a past player to put the boot in whilst we we’re at a low point in our history (to gain a podcast audience and more clicks) then fine. If you’re going to be blinded by fame or misguided adoration, then there’s not much people can say to convince you otherwise. It’s YOU who’s put him on a pedestal to which he can’t come down from.

We’re going through a transition, a much needed one, and the club should not be bogged down with addressing past-player issues that are constantly dredged up by clickbait media, and happily propagated by sad-sack ‘half-supporters’


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[hippyhippy]

We’re going through a transition

There no transition.. its the same shit show... this is just yet another screw up by the same people who have been screwing things up for the past 3 or 4 years.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Not sure how everyone else feels about the McLeod situation, but in my opinion no player, current or past, is bigger than the club. Full stop.

If you start with this premise, the entirety of your post which is to the effect that it was wrong to criticise the past player directors of the club, is nonsensical.

We were at our lowest ebb because of the people and culture that McLeod criticised. His doing so was an act of service to the club.

The club is not the people currently in office. They do not get some sort of mystical protection by cloaking themselves in its imagery. They ought be accountable to the real stake holders: the members.

 

[Southerntakeover]

But let's be realistic.

This is a falling out over money and respect. Not the respect offered to him as a club champion, but the respect of his post football foundation and the resources that should be provided for it.

That's not 'realistic' it's a deliberate and grubby smear.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Shaz2012]

Not sure how everyone else feels about the McLeod situation, but in my opinion no player, current or past, is bigger than the club. Full stop.

This is a typical bullshit statement that anyone can throw out. Of course they aren’t. But the problem is this club is one of the quintessential boys clubs. By definition it is past players (and old boys from the SANFL) thinking they are the club.

As in the statement nobody is bigger than the club is equivalent to the statement nobody is bigger than one of the boys.

We’ve got ridden of the low hanging fruit. I don’t for one second believe that the club has changed its mentality. Shits me to tears that 2 minute grab of Roo sitting around that table having the final say on TT.

To me macca is a person that has credibility shouting fire at an organisation that has ridiculous amount of smoke pillowing out of it.

 

[MRB37]

So from reading the full article, it appears that McLeod was receiving $300,000 a year in federal funding for his programs. That was ended in 2018 and the Crows took over in matching that funding to keep his programs going, which they have now deemed as unable to do with the COVID cutbacks in 2021. Because of that McLeod has started up a new business venture with unnamed partners which has prevented him from having the time to coach in the AFLW.

So basically the headline has made it seem like retribution for him speaking out against the club when it's not really the case at all.

 

[Legz]

I'm not sure where "the club is slagging him off" stuff comes from. It's always seemed like we've gone out of our way to accommodate him, even when he wasn't making it easy to do.

If I remember correctly, I reckon Rod Jameson made some questionable comments about McLeod when he first aired his criticism.

 

[MRB37]

If I remember correctly, I reckon Rod Jameson made some questionable comments about McLeod when he first aired his criticism.

The "temperamental soul" shit was a massive passive aggressive dig at McLeod and was basically going back to the Trigg playbook of calling people who dared question his leadership as "agitators".

Don't listen to the message and just take offense that you're being criticised.

 

[BunjiMac]

Yeah McLeod, you were once important to us, but what have you done for us lately?? Your heroic deeds were in the past and unless you've given something more, you're nothing more than an ex player with a bad attitude.

What a load of utter complete disrespect.

Let's just kick all our war heroes to the curb as well while we're at it.

Folklore, stories and legends is what makes a club, not any temporary selfish administration.

 

[BunjiMac]

If I remember correctly, I reckon Rod Jameson made some questionable comments about McLeod when he first aired his criticism.

Yup that was Jamo and then quickly followed by the AFC mouth pieces, of which there are a number on this board.

 

[1970crow]

McLeod should be treated like the legend he is, period. That's how you show respect for his legacy. It's not like he slept with another players wife for God sake, and even then North Melbourne still bent over backwards to try and bring Carey back into the fold.

A little criticism and all you get is club mouth pieces rubbishing his character and personality.to discredit him.

This is ridiculously weak.

this is our club under Chapman, Roo, Fagan and that w***er Hazel.

 

[1970crow]

Indigibeous: Indifferent to digits and anything mathematical. Drawn to words instead.

It’s true, I looked it up.

iPad knows all.

 

[Mego Red]

Yeah McLeod, you were once important to us, but what have you done for us lately?? Your heroic deeds were in the past and unless you've given something more, you're nothing more than an ex player with a bad attitude.

What a load of utter complete disrespect.

Let's just kick all our war heroes to the curb as well while we're at it.

Folklore, stories and legends is what makes a club, not any temporary selfish administration.

Jesus Christ, he's pissed off because he lost a very well paid position in a foundation named after him after the grant support dried up.

We couldn't afford to keep underwriting his funding and he feels that means we don't want him around anymore. That we've been disrespectful to him.

Why do we feel the need to pretend this is about something else?