Coach Men's Senior Coach: Brad Scott

[Vindicater]

If we're at the same position next year as we are now will everyone here that's currently supporting Brad call for his head and want him gone? Or are you guys committed to the 8 year plan or w/e it is

I have melted this week but now returned to my original thoughts. He gets the full five years no matter what. We can't keep sacking coaches and thinking it will fix anything.

 

[justlookingaround]

If we're at the same position next year as we are now will everyone here that's currently supporting Brad call for his head and want him gone? Or are you guys committed to the 8 year plan or w/e it is

I mean it depends what happens after. Are we going to gut the list? Try to top up?
Our list feels destined to peak at mid table, and that's not really on Scott, though I feel like maybe he's been sucked in and sees further potential in guys who have clearly reached their ceiling.
Worst case scenario, and what I fully expect to happen is pretty much what happened at NMFC. We top up, finish mid table, win a final or two, then suddenly Merrett is old, Parish, Ridley, Redman, Mckay, McGrath are all pushing 30 and we're back in no man's land with nothing to show for it.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

If we're at the same position next year as we are now will everyone here that's currently supporting Brad call for his head and want him gone? Or are you guys committed to the 8 year plan or w/e it is

i think Scotts deal is 4 years.

he should see out that 4 years.

but I'll tell ya now if we aren't playing finals by his last year, 2026, he is cooked.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I have melted this week but now returned to my original thoughts. He gets the full five years no matter what. We can't keep sacking coaches and thinking it will fix anything.

he is on 4 years no?

 

[Old Campaigner]

My main worry is that if he can’t get the most out of the list, who do we turn too? There is no one out there that would come to our club if he knifed Scott.

Rotten to the core the club. It really is.

There’s always someone who’ll take the job. There’s only 18 head coach positions so if you aspire to be a head coach you’ll go for pretty much every job that gets vacated

 

[Vindicater]

he is on 4 years no?

Not sure. But if four years then he gets that.

 

[Godzke]

Brad is the right coach, just need to work through some issues. Ast Coach clean out would be priority number one when reviewing the footy department.

 

[eth-dog]

Brad is the right coach, just need to work through some issues. Ast Coach clean out would be priority number one when reviewing the footy department.

I wouldn't get rid of all of them. I'd keep Tapping and Jacobs.

 

[Godzke]

I wouldn't get rid of all of them. I'd keep Tapping and Jacobs.

Tapping is the first to go
Forward line is an absolute mess

 

[ghostdog]

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That's shocking. Turn the bloody list over, for the love of Ganesh, turn it over.

 

[ghostdog]

I wouldn't get rid of all of them. I'd keep Tapping and Jacobs.

Interested to know why you'd keep Tapping when the forwardline appears dysfunctional.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

I wouldn't get rid of all of them. I'd keep Tapping and Jacobs.

When I first listened to kyptastics interview with Tapping I thought it was really insightful information re "too many forward half turnovers can also be an issue and aiming for a sweet spot".
But now I'm not sure if the issue Zach Package has re us going away from what worked earlier in year can be attributable to too much focus on this.
Some of our best wins earlier in year our pressure was off the charts and we had adj/guelfi/hobbs in forward line.
Since the form dip we have had only guelfi.
I'm not an expert obviously so will give him and Scott benefit of doubt that long term we will get balance right but I have to admit I'm a little perplexed why we tried to change what seemed a real strength of ours, and I do wonder if this is too complex an approach for year 2.

On a related note, gotta say for first time I was really disappointed with Scott's presser comments. He complained about lack of pressure, what did he expect with the selections he made??

 

[BrunoV]

Not sure how you can lay blame on Brad Scott given this has happened under coach after coach after coach for the past 15 years. The culture is broken and no form of success will come unless and until it's fixed. Scott is clearly 'trying' to reset the pitiful culture that has been left to fester for a decade and a half - he's had (almost) two seasons and one off season.

He needs time (and the full support of the club which it seems like he has). If he fails he fails, but if he does I don't know who we think could succeed.

Brad has made conscious personnel decisions throughout the year that have progressively torn down the first 6-8 weeks work, you can talk about culture all you want but we were going better than ok and then from there it’s basically been bad decision after bad decision.

Moving contested ball midfielders and ADJ off the half forward line has made us completely inept when the ball hits the deck so even though Caldwell in particular has gone boonta that has to be a cross.

Adding an extra tall into the mix after the Wright suspension hasn’t worked at all except for maybe a week and he’s persisted with it, that’s a cross.

Stringer and Gresham up into the middle of the ground is a cross, has hurt the front half too much and neutered their output.

He hasn’t got the use case for Martin correct and got handed Ridley on a silver platter mid season and hasn’t got the best out of him either.

Perkins as the defensive pivot in midfield was surely drawn up with the intention of it failing so I guess in that regard you can call it a success.

Selection of subs and emergencies has been shit and limited the kids getting sorely needed gametime.

Has brought in multiple players half cooked or on managed minutes that have looked and played like it.

2 200cm wingers is ridiculous, despite their individual growth as players.

I could go on, can talk culture until the cows come home but he picks the side, he moves the magnets and he’s been utter shit since April.

More or less exactly what Package says.

It is true that Zen Brad walked into a cultural basket case. What he is responsible for is doing nothing to correct it. All key decisions from list management to game plan and team selection have entrenched the existing culture.

He's not really done anything about the hardball and devised a system of team defence that isn't 2 way. Now he seems to be wondering why the culture hasn't changed. The words need to be supported by actions.

What has Zen Brad done that would warrant a new contract, if he was only given 2 years to start with? What am I supposed to be happy with at this point in time? How is Essendon different to when Worsfold and Rutten coached?

 

[andleanback]

Eh. Bit of a nothing stat.

Not really when Scott harps on that we are a young developing team. Our list is young, The teams that he selects aren’t that young

 

[DERO]

Let's get Zen Hirdy.

 

[andleanback]

I wouldn't get rid of all of them. I'd keep Tapping and Jacobs.

Yeh tapping is in charge of the forwards, he’s first to go imo.

 

[The Devils Advocate]

Redman: Why has he regressed so much?

Because Martin is in his position, Redman needs to get the license back.

Martin could be the best wingman in the competition, a goal kicking wingman. He could make up for our McCluggage/McGrath blunder.

I am fully convinced that Duurma and Martin could be the best wingman duo in the competition

 

[Corleone]

This is starting to smell like Sheedy laying the groundwork for another sacking in 12 months time.

I expect a Slobbo article is just around the corner.

 

[BratPack]

This is starting to smell like Sheedy laying the groundwork for another sacking in 12 months time.

I expect a Slobbo article is just around the corner.

He's already laying the groundwork on 360

 

[jmoo wan]

Let's get Zen Hirdy.

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he’s doing prostate exams now?

 

[ant555]

Brad is the right coach, just need to work through some issues. Ast Coach clean out would be priority number one when reviewing the footy department.

Glad someone has mentioned this . Not that they are bad but are the players over all the same voices ?

 

[DapperDon]

he’s doing prostate exams now?

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Where do I sign up?

 

[Kong]

I have melted this week but now returned to my original thoughts. He gets the full five years no matter what. We can't keep sacking coaches and thinking it will fix anything.

I feel like if nothing else, he's slowly transforming the club into the modern organisation it should have been for the past 15 years.

Even if he fails as a coach, I'd take the club sorting its shit out off field and enabling the next person to have a proper chance.

 

[eth-dog]

Tapping is the first to go
Forward line is an absolute mess

Interested to know why you'd keep Tapping when the forwardline appears dysfunctional.

When I first listened to kyptastics interview with Tapping I thought it was really insightful information re "too many forward half turnovers can also be an issue and aiming for a sweet spot".
But now I'm not sure if the issue Zach Package has re us going away from what worked earlier in year can be attributable to too much focus on this.
Some of our best wins earlier in year our pressure was off the charts and we had adj/guelfi/hobbs in forward line.
Since the form dip we have had only guelfi.
I'm not an expert obviously so will give him and Scott benefit of doubt that long term we will get balance right but I have to admit I'm a little perplexed why we tried to change what seemed a real strength of ours, and I do wonder if this is too complex an approach for year 2.

On a related note, gotta say for first time I was really disappointed with Scott's presser comments. He complained about lack of pressure, what did he expect with the selections he made??

Not really when Scott harps on that we are a young developing team. Our list is young, The teams that he selects aren’t that young

Yeh tapping is in charge of the forwards, he’s first to go imo.

That's because we've taken a great reserves (his time in this role at the pies) and midfield (where he excelled at Brisbane) coach and put him in charge of the forward line. Where he didn't play, or have any prior experience.

Don't go shallow. Don't be like "Oh he's in charge of the forwards so he must be shit". Look at what he's done prior. We have an asset and we're misusing him.

 

[Kong]

More or less exactly what Package says.

It is true that Zen Brad walked into a cultural basket case. What he is responsible for is doing nothing to correct it. All key decisions from list management to game plan and team selection have entrenched the existing culture.

He's not really done anything about the hardball and devised a system of team defence that isn't 2 way. Now he seems to be wondering why the culture hasn't changed. The words need to be supported by actions.

What has Zen Brad done that would warrant a new contract, if he was only given 2 years to start with? What am I supposed to be happy with at this point in time? How is Essendon different to when Worsfold and Rutten coached?