List Mgmt. Mid-Season Draft - Who do we take?

[Bicks]

Personally there's no way I'd be looking at Hugo Munn unless it's with a long term view because there is not a snowflake's chance in Hades that he's up to playing AFL at a decent level any time this season. Apart from his size I'm not sure he has the weapons that go along with his size anyway.

Anyway it seems the current SANFL player that's creating the most interest is former Box Hill Ruck Michael Knoll [205cm 105kg] a recent convert to footy after pursuing a basketball career who was recruited by the Panthers to replace Keegan Brooksby who they lost to the West Coast and Victorian TAC Ruck Hayden McLean who they recruited to replace Brooksby only for the Swans to snaffle him before he'd even suited up for the Panthers. Ask the Panthers what they think of the mid season draft if they now lose their N0.1 Ruck to the AFL, they should be rightly pissed right off.

South Adelaide ruckman Michael Knoll spoils Glenelg's Jesse White. Picture: AAP


Maybe we're looking at one of our top ups?

Mid-season draft nominees
Jordan Boyle (Adelaide)
Jonathon Beech, John Noble, Angus Rana, Will Snelling (West Adelaide).
Jack Blair, Oscar Chapman, Aidan Tropiano (North Adelaide).
Luke Bogle, Abe Davis, Liam Fitt, Joseph Haines, Michael Knoll, Mark Noble, Hayden Sampson (South Adelaide).
Lachlan Burrows, Sam Colquhoun, Josh Hone, Mihail Lochowiak, Hugo Munn, Thomas Read (Sturt).
Declan Carmody (North Gambier).
Bradley Close, Cory Gregson, Lachlan Hosie, Marlon Motlop, Luke Partington, Matthew Uebergang (Glenelg).
Angus Coxon (Henley).
Jordan Foote, Jack Hayes, Jesse Lonergan, Jimmy Toumpas (Woodville-West Torrens).
Daniel Johnston, Matthew Nunn, Isaac Saywell, Luke Surman (Norwood).
Jydon Neagle, Matt Neagle (Central District).
Cameron Sutcliffe (Port Adelaide).

 

[chazwazza]

Bicks - think you may be reading this wrong?
Mid-season draft takes place on May 27th.
If Crows picked up Munn from Sturt, then for SANFL RD 11, (June 29th) the SANFL Crows would not be allowed to field Munn against Sturt, unless Sturt agreed to let him play.
If the AFL Crows were out of finals contention after the 24th of August and the AFL season was done, but Sturt had made the SANFL finals, then Munn would be able to go back and play for Sturt for the SANFL finals series if Sturt wanted him back, even if the SANFL Crows also made the finals against Sturt.

Interesting, have you got an official link to this ruling?

 

[Bicks]

Interesting, have you got an official link to this ruling?

I posted it a page back, I reckon your safe at Sturt as I just can't see anyone taking Munn on his output this season unless they see him as a long term prospect and want to get the jump on other clubs before the National and Rookie drafts.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-07/midseason-draft-when-is-it-and-how-will-it-work

 

[Scorpus]

Are players drafted mid-season added to the senior list or rookie list? Is it a temporary inclusion or do they need to be redrafted at the end of the year again?

 

[Pea Nut]

Are players drafted mid-season added to the senior list or rookie list? Is it a temporary inclusion or do they need to be redrafted at the end of the year again?

My understanding is that they are rookie listed and the contract expires at the end of the season. Once listed though they are just like any other contracted player. You can delist at the end of the year, or can give them a contract extension to keep them at the club.

 

[Bicks]

Are players drafted mid-season added to the senior list or rookie list? Is it a temporary inclusion or do they need to be redrafted at the end of the year again?

Rookie list.

What's in it for the players?

Players selected in the Mid-Season Rookie Draft will be able to negotiate terms of a new contract beyond 2019, just like any other listed player.

Meantime, it is also believed that any player selected in the Mid-Season Rookie Draft that is not retained by their club, or selected by any other club at the end of 2019, will receive a financial sum of around $20,000.

 

[Scorpus]

Cool so that means there is a definite incentive to find and draft the best eligible player

 

[Geoffa32]

This is f***ed. Consider if Sturt had Munn and Read drafted which is a possibility that would be season over, throw in Sam Colquhoun who racked up 40 disposals last week and you may as well shut the doors for the year.
What a c*** of an idea to impose on the State League stand alone clubs that gain no benefit whatsoever and against their will.
**** you AFL. Go **** a goat

No one is forcing the players to nominate.

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[Bicks]

Interesting, have you got an official link to this ruling?

https://sturtfc.com.au/player/lachlan-burrows/

What can you tell me about this lad, I see he's made the SA U18 Squad as an over ager for the Nationals and is certainly a nice size for a KPP.

I understand he was a highly rated Decathlete as a junior before turning to footy.

 

[Next Gen Rookie]

Hope Port redrafts Toumpas

They can't. Players delisted at end of 2018 can't be taken by their delisted club.

 

[Crow till I die]

No one is forcing the players to nominate.

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true..but there should not even be an option to nominate as there never ever should be a mid season draft..ever

 

[Geoffa32]

true..but there should not even be an option to nominate as there never ever should be a mid season draft..ever

I personally think a mid season trade period among AFL clubs would be better.

Dont think any State listed players will come into an AFL club in May and make a real impact. The fitness gap is quite big.

Got to remember over age recruits such as Tim Kelly got to do a full AFL preseason to condition their bodies before playing an AFL game.

These guys wont have that.

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[Crow till I die]

I personally think a mid season trade period among AFL clubs would be better.

Dont think any State listed players will come into an AFL club in May and make a real impact. The fitness gap is quite big.

Got to remember over age recruits such as Tim Kelly got to do a full AFL preseason to condition their bodies before playing an AFL game.

These guys wont have that.

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I agree an AFL only mid season trade period seems much much more sensible but for the love of god - don't pillage the state leagues for players who really won't have any immediate impact and as such offer no benefit during the actual season they are drafted

 

[cmndstab]

I know, damaged goods and all, but would we consider taking Sam Colquhoun? He's a good age now (24) and seemingly completely over his knee issues. Racks up plenty of the ball and has AFL experience. Leading the SANFL in marks and second for disposals so far this year.

I know we're all thinking a tall player with the loss of Doedee, but I'm more thinking that our fringe players are all mostly mid-sized players (Knight, Gallucci, Murphy, Atkins, Jones, etc) and there's an opportunity there. If we select a tall, unless they're going to step in and replace Kelly or Hartigan, there's not much point.

 

[Bicks]

I personally think a mid season trade period among AFL clubs would be better.

Dont think any State listed players will come into an AFL club in May and make a real impact. The fitness gap is quite big.

Got to remember over age recruits such as Tim Kelly got to do a full AFL preseason to condition their bodies before playing an AFL game.

These guys wont have that.

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And

Who can clubs recruit?

Clubs will be able to draft any footballers who have already been on an AFL list, or who nominated for the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

Any player delisted at the end of 2018 cannot be re-selected by the club that delisted them, unless they nominated for last year's NAB AFL Draft.

 

[Bicks]

I know, damaged goods and all, but would we consider taking Sam Colquhoun? He's a good age now (24) and seemingly completely over his knee issues. Racks up plenty of the ball and has AFL experience. Leading the SANFL in marks and second for disposals so far this year.

I know we're all thinking a tall player with the loss of Doedee, but I'm more thinking that our fringe players are all mostly mid-sized players (Knight, Gallucci, Murphy, Atkins, Jones, etc) and there's an opportunity there. If we select a tall, unless they're going to step in and replace Kelly or Hartigan, there's not much point.

I think the whole idea of the mid season draft is crap.

 

[hugecannon]

How about Oscar Chapman?

Has he been playing this year, after he was talked up as a smoky last season?

 

[Bicks]

How about Oscar Chapman?

Has he been playing this year, after he was talked up as a smoky last season?

He was an over ager last year, now 20 y.o. and can't break into the Roosters League team as yet in 2019?

 

[Geoffa32]

And

Who can clubs recruit?

Clubs will be able to draft any footballers who have already been on an AFL list, or who nominated for the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

Any player delisted at the end of 2018 cannot be re-selected by the club that delisted them, unless they nominated for last year's NAB AFL Draft.

I guess the guys nominating have kept their conditioning up.

Still looking at the names not many that are "plug n play"....

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[cmndstab]

I think the whole idea of the mid season draft is crap.

Okay, well, you can think that if you like but it's here and we'd be foolish not to take advantage of it.

 

[Samcro24]

This is f***ed. Consider if Sturt had Munn and Read drafted which is a possibility that would be season over, throw in Sam Colquhoun who racked up 40 disposals last week and you may as well shut the doors for the year.
What a c*** of an idea to impose on the State League stand alone clubs that gain no benefit whatsoever and against their will.
**** you AFL. Go **** a goat

Imagine the opportunity of a mid season AFL call up.

Oh the humanity!

 

[Bicks]

Okay, well, you can think that if you like but it's here and we'd be foolish not to take advantage of it.

Why exactly would we be foolish? Name me some players you think could come in and actually have an immediate impact at AFL level?

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-03/midseason-rookie-draft-the-full-list-of-nominees

 

[chazwazza]

https://sturtfc.com.au/player/lachlan-burrows/

What can you tell me about this lad, I see he's made the SA U18 Squad as an over ager for the Nationals and is certainly a nice size for a KPP.

I understand he was a highly rated Decathlete as a junior before turning to footy.

Nothing Bicks, I follow our Reserves loosely, normally at a pub while they’re playing, to be honest it was the first time I came across his name.

 

[chazwazza]

I personally think a mid season trade period among AFL clubs would be better.

Dont think any State listed players will come into an AFL club in May and make a real impact. The fitness gap is quite big.

Got to remember over age recruits such as Tim Kelly got to do a full AFL preseason to condition their bodies before playing an AFL game.

These guys wont have that.

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I’ve said this all along

 

[chazwazza]

I know, damaged goods and all, but would we consider taking Sam Colquhoun? He's a good age now (24) and seemingly completely over his knee issues. Racks up plenty of the ball and has AFL experience. Leading the SANFL in marks and second for disposals so far this year.

I know we're all thinking a tall player with the loss of Doedee, but I'm more thinking that our fringe players are all mostly mid-sized players (Knight, Gallucci, Murphy, Atkins, Jones, etc) and there's an opportunity there. If we select a tall, unless they're going to step in and replace Kelly or Hartigan, there's not much point.

If Brown’s injury was long term he’d be a turn key go, he’s been great this year and very good to solid last year.