Mitch McGovern 2: As The Worm Turns (read the OP)

[Crow till I die]

Nah, I want you to march down to that Maserati dealership tomorrow with the keys to 3 Ford Festiva's, an X-Box and a laptop in your hands and walk up to that salesman and tell him you're ready to negotiate a deal. Be ready though, you might have to slam that laptop shut and storm out. Don't be afraid to do it!!

Too true. Carlton chasing mcgovern is like marlin fishing with a maggott on a garfish hook and expecting success

 

[Crow till I die]

Who the hell is jade Robran? I understand the surname reverence.


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Her husband is luko's manager

 

[BunjiMC]

11 of his brownlow votes awarded in games against non victorian sides.

Some of those games they got flogged. Which suggests he recieved welfare votes

He got 2 bloody votes in a game they lost by 104 points.... you can't be the second best player on the ground and lose by that much!

37 touches at 51%...

 

[Crow till I die]

If carlton can find a club to deal with for their 2 x 2nd rounders to get a decent 1st round pick. We will take that and mcadam for mcgovern. Otherwise why would we let a contracted mcgovern go for unders to the very club that said you have to pay overs for contracted players...mcclure needs to look at it for not carltons corner and he will see how silly his spitballing is

 

[Donkey Magoo]

I couldn't be arsed typing it again.

We need to extract maximum value here because we are losing a whole lot with Mitch.

 

[ams4crows]

even if they get pick 13 from Sydney for those two 2nd's im still asking for Carlton's 2019 2nd on top of that.

 

[F_therest]

Carlton fans have moved on from mid first PP? Ah right looks like all they have is mid 20 picks left.

Nek minute. Adelaide will accept mid 20s pick because thats all they have to offer.

WRONG. If carlton want McGovern, and THEY Do, they will find a way to get a top 3 pick to adelaide. It may cost them pick 1.

I've seen plenty bag Carlton posters trade suggestions, and admittedly some are ridiculous, yet you have posters like you equally ridiculous saying it will cost a top 3 pick...seriously.

 

[ABAB]

Just ask Sydney.

Sydney wants Hannebry gone as they know he is cooked at 28 early next year, during the mid season the media was saying pick 4 for him when the trade news started, but now after seeing his second half of the year...….

 

[1990crow]

I've seen plenty bag Carlton posters trade suggestions, and admittedly some are ridiculous, yet you have posters like you equally ridiculous saying it will cost a top 3 pick...seriously.

We will contribute to it, but yes top 3 Pick is what we are after for a contracted McGovern being offered 800k.

 

[GROTTO]

I've seen plenty bag Carlton posters trade suggestions, and admittedly some are ridiculous, yet you have posters like you equally ridiculous saying it will cost a top 3 pick...seriously.

Just curious do Carlton posters feel any pain for being the worst Victorian team for years on end?

Coupled with your arch rival winning the flag last year?

I dont know how you guys post with such bravado.

 

[Brenton Davy]

He never got over godra kicking 13 on him

Or the Milburn hit..

 

[CrowBloke]

Belief in Adelaide's direction faded.
So wants to join Carlton.

Yeah it's unfathomable, isn't it, even with big $s involved?

If McGovern's right about Adelaide's "direction" (read: what they're prepared to pay him) then all of the other top players who've re-signed (Sloane, Laird, Doedee etc) are wrong,
OR
he's just a money-hungry grub.
Does anybody in here know Mcgov well enough to comment about his real reasons?

 

[ABAB]

Yeah it's unfathomable, isn't it, even with big $s involved?

If McGovern's right about Adelaide's "direction" (read: what they're prepared to pay him) then all of the other top players who've re-signed (Sloane, Laird, Doedee etc) are wrong,
OR
he's just a money-hungry grub.
Does anybody in here know Mcgov well enough to comment about his real reasons?

Bitter after Gibbs got traded to the Crows and supposedly on more money than him, he saw what Lever, Cameron and his brother got offered a year latter and Teague (Crows forward-line coach) unexpectedly return back home who he was close to so a bit of both.
Fremantle did offer him $700K per year for 5 years which he rejected last year but that was supposedly only $50K difference per year which isn't that much but $150K is...

 

[CrowBloke]

What's the Crows excuse?

Excuse, you goose? For what?
For contesting Finals in 2015-17 inclusive? For making it to last year's GF? For winning 10 --- count them, TEN --- more games this year than your miserable mob?

Do you think for a second that buying money-hungry players like McGovern will get you off the bottom 4 of the ladder?
Somebody, tell'im he's dreamin'.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Jade robran alluded to the crows being right into luko on radio a couple of days back.

I have been challenged by #Bicks regarding whether the club has made any statement about the SA boys or whether it was the media. I couldn't remember if what he said was true or not so I responded appropriately. Now when I see the report on SEN I think that is what I was alluding too. And after reading the report from SEN I still believe that the Crows havs stated they are after Luk this is part of the statement in that report “Our recruiting staff of Justin Reid, Hamish Ogilvie and the crew, they’re certainly bullish about some of the players in this year’s draft, including some of the South Australian kids and Jack’s one of those,” Fagan told SEN Afternoons.

Thats a quote from Fagan so how have I mis-interpreted it as spin.

 

[GROTTO]

Seriously one night I am going to go to sleep early and the Mitch deal will be done.

 

[CrowBloke]

In the last 10 years, Richmond has won 112 games vs the Blues 86, played 5 finals series vs 4, played 8 finals vs 5, won 4 finals vs 2, 1 premiership vs 0, and 0 wooden spoons vs 2.

Since 2001 you have managed to win 12 games twice, the Tigers have managed it 5 times.

Other than a brief period of competence in the early noughties you have been helpless for nearly 20 years.

Give up, MarcusP2 , you're only going to confuse him with those facts!

 

[GrommoT]

Except the car wasn’t for sale, but they offered the car a good home and washes everyday, showing they really do want the car. Now they know the price of the car they’ve shit their pants, which has put them in an awkward position because the car wants to go home with them.

Just make sure to wind the windows down.

 

[Pugsley]

Give up, MarcusP2 , you're only going to confuse him with those facts!

Just give him a wooden spoon to add to the collection.

 

[Iron]

Some people have very short memories. Carlton have still won more games than Richmond over the last 10 years. And until last year had played more winning finals. Still played more finals in the last 10 years though.

Well in that case everything must be going swimmingly.

SOS is clearly the man for you. May you continue along your merry way.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

He got 2 bloody votes in a game they lost by 104 points.... you can't be the second best player on the ground and lose by that much!

37 touches at 51%...

Afl have to give Carlton fans something to be hopeful about

That club is an absolute mess and desspretley need members to hang around. So this was orchestrated. As all afl awards are.

Who did they take the votes off? Laird?

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Or the Milburn hit..

He still pissed that Carlton got caught paying kernahan and Bradley under the table.

If only he took a pay cut.

 

[Thetrader15]

I have been challenged by #Bicks regarding whether the club has made any statement about the SA boys or whether it was the media. I couldn't remember if what he said was true or not so I responded appropriately. Now when I see the report on SEN I think that is what I was alluding too. And after reading the report from SEN I still believe that the Crows havs stated they are after Luk this is part of the statement in that report “Our recruiting staff of Justin Reid, Hamish Ogilvie and the crew, they’re certainly bullish about some of the players in this year’s draft, including some of the South Australian kids and Jack’s one of those,” Fagan told SEN Afternoons.

Thats a quote from Fagan so how have I mis-interpreted it as spin.

That sounds Port / Motlop levels of desperation

 

[conVINCEd]

I have been challenged by #Bicks regarding whether the club has made any statement about the SA boys or whether it was the media. I couldn't remember if what he said was true or not so I responded appropriately. Now when I see the report on SEN I think that is what I was alluding too. And after reading the report from SEN I still believe that the Crows havs stated they are after Luk this is part of the statement in that report “Our recruiting staff of Justin Reid, Hamish Ogilvie and the crew, they’re certainly bullish about some of the players in this year’s draft, including some of the South Australian kids and Jack’s one of those,” Fagan told SEN Afternoons.

Thats a quote from Fagan so how have I mis-interpreted it as spin.

Fagan only said the word ‘Jack’ because he was directly asked about Lukosius.

It is Carlton and media spin to suggest we are desperate to land Lukosius - and you’ve said it would be a failure of the club if we missed getting him despite the fact we’ve never said that is our aim.

 

[Crouch#44]

Having Wright come home gives good indication of talks with carlton for a while. Really interested if there is any way we will make a trade with carlton work while getting a decent best 22 player in return.

I say this because i thought we were getting a back up ruck with pruess and that has dissipated.

How can a trade with carlton help get a player?

Over the draft pick & mature player debate