Autopsy NAB Cup Rd 3 vs Hawthorn

[_RT_]

This Saturday we front up against the Hawks in Launceston. In what shapes as a fairly meaningless game in terms of making the NAB Cup Grand Final it will be interesting to see just how the 2 sides tackle the game. Hardwick has already said that we will be fielding a fairly strong line up with the best 22 players who missed the Bombers game likely to come in. At the same time I expect a few who played the Bombers to be given the weekend off. As for the Hawks, it's likely they will ramp things up against us with only 2 more of these games to go before round 1. The Hawks will be keen to get some more game time into their stars who missed last week so expect them to also field a fairly strong line up.

Squads:
Richmond
1. Chris Newman 3. Brett Deledio 4. Dustin Martin 5. Brandon Ellis 6. Shaun Grigg 7. Matt Dea 8. Jack Riewoldt 9. Trent Cotchin 10. Shane Edwards 11. Jake Batchelor 13. Ricky Pettard 14. Bachar Houli 18. Alex Rance 20. Ivan Maric 22. Sam Lonergan 23. Daniel Jackson 24. Ben Griffiths 25. Troy Chaplin 26. Robin Nahas 27. Aaron Edwards 28. Jake King 29. Tyrone Vickery 30. Reece Conca 35. Matthew White 38. Steve Morris 44. Matthew Arnot 45. Brett O'Hanlon

Hawthorn
2. Jarryd Roughead 3. Jordan Lewis 4. Matthew Suckling 5. Sam Mitchell 6. Josh Gibson 8. Xavier Ellis 9. Shaun Burgoyne 10. Bradley Hill 13. Kyle Cheney 14. Grant Birchall 16. Issac Smith 21. Shane Savage 24. Ben Stratton 25. Ryan Schoenmakers 27. Matt Spangher 28 Paul Puopolo 29 Will Langford 31. Angus Litherland 32. Jonathan Simpkin 34 Jordan Kelly 35. Sam Grimley 37. Jed Anderson 39. Max Bailey 40. Tim O'Brien 41. Taylor Duryea 43. Amos Frank 44. Derick Wanganeen

What To Expect:
Richmond
So far this preseason we have shown pretty good form easily accounting for the Demons, just getting pipped by the Roos when we rested a number of key players late and then getting over the Bombers last week with effectively our second string lineup on the park. This week we bring back a few of our prime movers as we look to find a settled line up before round 1 against the Blues. Once again we're not going with our full strength line up but rather a mixture of experience and kids. Chaplin and Lonergan are slated to get a run for a half this week providing they get through training unscathed. The inclusion of Lonergan along with Pettard and Stephenson should give a bit more of an idea as to who is leading the race for rookie promotion.

Hawthorn
Given the Hawks are 0-3 so far this NAB Cup, I expect they will want to get a win on the board if possible. The more important thing for them though is getting miles into the legs of their stars who have looked short of a gallop so far. This week expect them to wheel out the likes of Ellis Burgoyne Birchall Lake and Shiels as they look to ramp up their preparations for round 1.

Prediction
Although the Hawks will be keen for a win, I reckon we may just have them covered this time around. Last time we played them down there was Hardwicks first game in charge and we got flogged by heaps. This time around I expect a much closer game and it should prove ideal for us to continue with our training for close finishes. The more important thing for both sides though is to get through without injury or suspension(Buddy has been close a couple of times so far). In the end though I reckon we'll get up by 2-3 goals.

 

[CoggaRules]

I think Dimma must keep this game close. We really need to win in close finishes and if we do get to the point where we are 3 goals up at any stage of the game, he must without any hesitation rotate players to get it back to a 6 point ball game, so we can fine tune our structures when it comes to winning close games.

 

[ize_]

I'd go -

B - Morro, Astbury, Rance
HB - Batch, Griff, Petterd
C - Conca, Cotch, Lids
HF - Knights, Vickery, Helbig
F - King, Elton, A. Edwards
Foll - Derickx, Ellis, Martin
Inter - Dea, S. Edwards, Vlastuin, White, Arnot, Verrier, Grimes, Jackson

 

[thefendoff]

I'd go -

B - Morro, Astbury, Rance
HB - Batch, Griff, Petterd
C - Conca, Cotch, Lids
HF - Knights, Vickery, Helbig
F - King, Elton, A. Edwards
Foll - Derickx, Ellis, Martin
Inter - Dea, S. Edwards, Vlastuin, White, Arnot, Verrier, Grimes, Jackson

like this team, might swap ellis and conca. dont think i'd even bother with derickx anymore.

 

[David3030]

Well done on short notice RT. Agree its likely to be close and we will probably rest Jack.

Will be very interesting if this happens as our forward structures so far in the NAB Cup have been built around him.

 

[nut]

Dimma said we will be picking close to full strength leading into round 1 from now on....

I want us to gear up our midfield and get the rotations and mix right. If we are going to beat Carlton then we have to win the midfield by a fair bit.

If Chaplain comes in for a half then maybe Astbury or Griffith can be given a go up forward.

 

[DrMike]

Not really to do with this game but all of our games during NAB have been televised.
Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond, Hawthorn, Essendon, Geelong and Adelaide have all games played on FOX FOOTY, the rest have to cover their own games if they want their fans to see them without being at the ground.
Interesting where they see the money coming in from.

 

[johnno77]

Interesting where they see the money coming in from.

We rate Dr M. Always have, always will!

 

[theflea]

astbury is our for a few weeks with a foot injury.

 

[ize_]

Bugger. Needs continuity.

 

[jko'neal]

astbury is our for a few weeks with a foot injury.

Shame, looked really good the other day. Poor guy, needs to avoid ladders and black cats for a while.

 

[want2spoodge_pettifer]

Is this broadcast anywhere?

 

[DrMike]

Is this broadcast anywhere?

Foxtel and AFL Live
Three quarters of the game will be uploaded to afl.com.au around 12 hours after the completion, the final quarter a further 12 hours later

 

[ohhhBigMalcho]

main focus for me will be on Chaplin, if he does manage to get up for the game. There has been a lot of hope placed on him throughout the pre season by many of us posters, i am just hoping he gets through unscathed and shows enough to suggest he will be the B and F winner that he was at Port Adelaide and more

for the record i think we will easily beat the hawks if we play a decent side... not sure whats making me feel so confident about it though, perhaps our record against them and formlines

 

[tigs2010]

for the record i think we will easily beat the hawks if we play a decent side... not sure whats making me feel so confident about it though, perhaps our record against them and formlines

They're our bunnies.

 

[Joker91]

I think Dimma must keep this game close. We really need to win in close finishes and if we do get to the point where we are 3 goals up at any stage of the game, he must without any hesitation rotate players to get it back to a 6 point ball game, so we can fine tune our structures when it comes to winning close games.

I don't think we will be tinkering with form two weeks away from round 1.

 

[True Thylacine]

Prediction
Although the Hawks will be keen for a win, I reckon we may just have them covered this time around. Last time we played them down there was Hardwicks first game in charge and we got flogged by heaps. This time around I expect a much closer game and it should prove ideal for us to continue with our training for close finishes. The more important thing for both sides though is to get through without injury or suspension(Buddy has been close a couple of times so far). In the end though I reckon we'll get up by 2-3 goals.

I could swear we've only played Hawthorn in Tassie once and it was definitely TW at the helm that day. You dont forget floggings like especially that after driving 2 hours and spending $500 on pre and post match

 

[mauricerioli]

I could swear we've only played Hawthorn in Tassie once and it was definitely TW at the helm that day. You dont forget floggings like especially that after driving 2 hours and spending $500 on pre and post match

I`m not sure if we played Hawthorn in Tassie under Plough, but we definitely played Hawthorn there in the NAB Cup in 2010 under Dimma.

 

[TOOs_Finest]

I could swear we've only played Hawthorn in Tassie once and it was definitely TW at the helm that day. You dont forget floggings like especially that after driving 2 hours and spending $500 on pre and post match

I`m not sure if we played Hawthorn in Tassie under Plough, but we definitely played Hawthorn there in the NAB Cup in 2010 under Dimma.

Yep, Dimma's first game as coach iirc... we were down by about 100 at 3qtr time.

 

[Heisenberg_]

We played them in Tassie what Cogs did his knee the first time

We also played then in Tassie in the NAB Cup in Dimmas first year.

 

[TOOs_Finest]

We played them in Tassie what Cogs did his knee the first time

Yeah I think that was the game when Buddy first showed his wares as a youngster, kicked about 5 goals?

But don't think that was a smashing, maybe lost by 30-40?

TT may be getting the two games confused.

 

[Madison]

I imagine Tuck, Martin, Rance, JR at the very least will be rested, as they have played a lot already. Maybe Vickery too since but he probably needs the fitness.

I would think that next week we play our best 22 available from injury.

 

[smasha]

Have a feeling every Bombers supporter on the planet will be watching this game.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

main focus for me will be on Chaplin, if he does manage to get up for the game. There has been a lot of hope placed on him throughout the pre season by many of us posters, i am just hoping he gets through unscathed and shows enough to suggest he will be the B and F winner that he was at Port Adelaide and more

for the record i think we will easily beat the hawks if we play a decent side... not sure whats making me feel so confident about it though, perhaps our record against them and formlines

Chaplin actually finished runner up in 2010 and equal 4th last year - hasn't won a best and fairest yet but that might change at Richmond

If he plays, will be great to see how he goes, I don't think he needs to be a star, AA defender to validate being a good pick up. His value will be in his leadership, maturity and ability to help provide Rance, Grimes, Griff, Batch and Astbury support on and off the field. He's a bit taller and heavier than Rance so may be more suited for those monsters like Petrie that Rance can struggle against from time to time. If he becomes a solid best 22 defender for us, that's a massive win right there IMO

If he plays against Hawthorn, will be his first hitout for the year I believe (was injured for the All stars and intra club games as well as the previous NAB matches).

 

[SunshineBoy]

I think Dimma must keep this game close. We really need to win in close finishes and if we do get to the point where we are 3 goals up at any stage of the game, he must without any hesitation rotate players to get it back to a 6 point ball game, so we can fine tune our structures when it comes to winning close games.

That could be construed as matchfixing, we dont do that.