New Zealand v England 28 Nov- 18 Dec 2024 (3 Tests)

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You know why. It didn’t look out and umpires should never ever give them out. Struck a mile outside the crease with obvious seam movement towards leg side. No chance that’s hitting. Plus, the dodgy DRS shows it just kissing leg stump. Probably wouldn’t have even dislodged the bails if you believe the DRS tracking bs.
 

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You know why. It didn’t look out and umpires should never ever give them out. Struck a mile outside the crease with obvious seam movement towards leg side. No chance that’s hitting. Plus, the dodgy DRS shows it just kissing leg stump. Probably wouldn’t have even dislodged the bails if you believe the DRS tracking bs.
‘Umpires should never give them out’ is a wild thing to say about a ball that ball tracking has hitting the stumps.

Again, Zak has a big wooden things in his hands, he should try using it every now and then.
 
You know why. It didn’t look out and umpires should never ever give them out. Struck a mile outside the crease with obvious seam movement towards leg side. No chance that’s hitting. Plus, the dodgy DRS shows it just kissing leg stump. Probably wouldn’t have even dislodged the bails if you believe the DRS tracking bs.
I agree, as much as Crawley is a knob, you can't be firing either of those LBWs. The first one in particular was always way too high and the second seamed to leg and he was a long way down the pitch. Pretty amateur umpiring.
 
Bashir bowls some absolute garbage.

Square peg, round hole at the moment.

Some bowlers you can fashion into what you want them to be, on the job in test cricket.

Brydon Carse appears to be learning on the job and it of course helps when you bowl at 140kph - you have at least one commodity that can help you fight back against the batsmen.

Bashir is a 20 year old or 21 year old or whatever he is, parachuted into test cricket with a couple of first class games under his belt with nothing more than his build basically. He did ok in India but was helped in a few games by some fairly dusty pitches at times, on other occasions they helped themselves to him.

You might learn FROM those experiences as time goes on but it’s very difficult to learn DURING series when you get thrashed for 8-414 at 5 an over, after you’ve just been to Pakistan and taken 9 wickets at 50. I don’t believe just keeping him there and gifting him games is going to help him. What ability he does have and confidence etc is going to take a big hit you’d have to think if he can’t find a way to play a role like keeping the runs down etc as Leach can.

Going back to domestic cricket with a ‘ok here’s what you have to work on’ mandate would be far more helpful you’d have to think
 
The funny thing about the Duckett dismissal is it may not be the dumbest of the Bazball era.

I think it’s up there. It’s not a Duckett shot, that’s what makes it funny.

He’s ultra aggressive and him getting out trying to smack the last ball of the day would be no surprise to anybody but charging down the wicket was I think.
 
NZ should get pass 550 to even consider declaring.
England would still consider themselves a chance 439 down
Nah England will be bowled out for 100 and something trying to chase too hard

Santner in was a master stroke, every time the oppo has switched up spinners this year England have been suckered
 
Square peg, round hole at the moment.

Some bowlers you can fashion into what you want them to be, on the job in test cricket.

Brydon Carse appears to be learning on the job and it of course helps when you bowl at 140kph - you have at least one commodity that can help you fight back against the batsmen.

Bashir is a 20 year old or 21 year old or whatever he is, parachuted into test cricket with a couple of first class games under his belt with nothing more than his build basically. He did ok in India but was helped in a few games by some fairly dusty pitches at times, on other occasions they helped themselves to him.

You might learn FROM those experiences as time goes on but it’s very difficult to learn DURING series when you get thrashed for 8-414 at 5 an over, after you’ve just been to Pakistan and taken 9 wickets at 50. I don’t believe just keeping him there and gifting him games is going to help him. What ability he does have and confidence etc is going to take a big hit you’d have to think if he can’t find a way to play a role like keeping the runs down etc as Leach can.

Going back to domestic cricket with a ‘ok here’s what you have to work on’ mandate would be far more helpful you’d have to think
He’s not the first choice spinner for Somerset
 

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He was so integral early Bazball days. Then he got injured, then came back for India tour....then gone for an untried leggie?
This is just my view/theory…

Bazball is a cult, McCullum doesn’t rate the County System one jot. To him it’s the anthesis of what he’s about. He’s not in it for the slog of it. He loves racehorses, named his bats after them. He’s going through England and basically treating it like the yearling sales. Rather than let them develop and potentially learn bad habits, he’s taken Bashir & Bethell and dropped them straight in and asking them to learn on the job.

It’s an interesting experiment and threatens to turn English Cricket on its head.
 
Square peg, round hole at the moment.

Some bowlers you can fashion into what you want them to be, on the job in test cricket.

Brydon Carse appears to be learning on the job and it of course helps when you bowl at 140kph - you have at least one commodity that can help you fight back against the batsmen.

Bashir is a 20 year old or 21 year old or whatever he is, parachuted into test cricket with a couple of first class games under his belt with nothing more than his build basically. He did ok in India but was helped in a few games by some fairly dusty pitches at times, on other occasions they helped themselves to him.

You might learn FROM those experiences as time goes on but it’s very difficult to learn DURING series when you get thrashed for 8-414 at 5 an over, after you’ve just been to Pakistan and taken 9 wickets at 50. I don’t believe just keeping him there and gifting him games is going to help him. What ability he does have and confidence etc is going to take a big hit you’d have to think if he can’t find a way to play a role like keeping the runs down etc as Leach can.

Going back to domestic cricket with a ‘ok here’s what you have to work on’ mandate would be far more helpful you’d have to think
I'm surprised they haven't given Rehan Ahmed more of a shot. It is not like Bashir gives them much control anyway so they may as well go the leggie plus he can actually bat a bit
 
The funny thing about the Duckett dismissal is it may not be the dumbest of the Bazball era.
Craziest thing is he won’t get yelled at. It’s accepted, that’s its okay to go down swinging.
The openers have any idea of maths? 130 overs of charging the pitch? Not possible
 
Craziest thing is he won’t get yelled at. It’s accepted, that’s its okay to go down swinging.
The openers have any idea of maths? 130 overs of charging the pitch? Not possible

Do you think any player in any team in current cricket would actually get yelled at for doing it?

Of course there was a time when captains would tell a player who did that ‘if you ever do that again you won’t play for this team ever again.’ But that’s probably gone now. Everyone is taught to ‘trust what works’ and ‘play brave cricket’ etc etc. it’s not just England.

It’s been 24 hours since Travis Head walked out at 3-50 and started lowering his knees and cutting balls off fourth stump slightly above or at bail height (not as reckless as running down the wicket at 1-10 but still not what you’d probably advise in days gone by). And it works a treat and he’s lauded for his brave cricket and how he just bats with abandon regardless of the situation.

And so he should be, he turned the game. But any one of those shots could have been a chop on with just a few inches of slightly misbehaving bounce and his fairly pre-meditated offside assault looks silly. No way in that circumstance Pat Cummins or anyone else gives him a gobful for it.


Rightly or wrongly, the days of giving a player a footy-style bake over a stupid shot like Duckett’s today are probably consigned to history for most teams, not just his.
 

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