Next Coach Sacked - 2023 edition

[Klink]

What a difference a year makes - this time last year Scott would of been at the top of the list. Even though he never should of been, he would of been.

As for Fagan, he reminds me of Scott a bit. Even if they do bomb out in finals again, they'll persist with him next year and rightly so. He could easily do a Scott and win a flag - this year or next. People get too wound up over finals records. Getting your team to finals / top 4 every year means you can seriously coach. Brisbane actually had a good finals series last year but ran into a side that was red hot and on the rampage after 14 straight wins.

Lets not forget Hardwick. Tigers lost three elimination finals in a row (2013-15) and people were baying for blood. Then look at what happended.

Same numpties on here last year saying Scott can't coach and we will crumble again in the finals. Then look at what happended. You have to back them in.

 

[Pistol Night]

Reckon this is Simpsons last year at Wet Toast and if I were the Blues management, I'd be doing everything I could to get him in as a senior assistant. Loved the Eagles gamestyle during his tenure outside of 2022.

You reckon he’ll leave the head coaching gig at the richest club in the league to be Vossys magnet flipper?

 

[Pistol Night]

Just heard Caro say something hilarious on the real footy podcast that would make Port fans heads explode.

She obviously never comes on Bigfooty...

God there’s a mental image I didn’t need..

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You reckon he’ll leave the head coaching gig at the richest club in the league to be Vossys magnet flipper?

Plenty of old senior coaches have taken on advisory roles at clubs as coach coaches etc. Simpson could easily get another head coach role somewhere else but I'd still be asking the question if I was Carlton, often senior coaches want to take a break from the stress and pressure of being the front man at a club when they depart.

 

[master bate]

What a difference a year makes - this time last year Scott would of been at the top of the list. Even though he never should of been, he would of been.

As for Fagan, he reminds me of Scott a bit. Even if they do bomb out in finals again, they'll persist with him next year and rightly so. He could easily do a Scott and win a flag - this year or next. People get too wound up over finals records. Getting your team to finals / top 4 every year means you can seriously coach. Brisbane actually had a good finals series last year but ran into a side that was red hot and on the rampage after 14 straight wins.

Lets not forget Hardwick. Tigers lost three elimination finals in a row (2013-15) and people were baying for blood. Then look at what happended.

Same numpties on here last year saying Scott can't coach and we will crumble again in the finals. Then look at what happended. You have to back them in.

There were a couple of poll threads last year. One early one had Scott third with 10% of the votes but miles behind Dew.

A later one had Scott with only 2% of the vote.

The bad coaches on bad sides and coaches who’s teams drop right away usually get fired. The afl industry rarely moves on a successful good coach in a Justin Langer situation.

I’d argue Chris Scott had a flag and had a number of deep finals runs making the suggestion of sacking him pretty silly. Especially when the cats admin always seemed keen on his plans. Plus he made the grand final in 2020.

Fagan’s had a good (not great) list for a while now, plus the dream run of the 2020 season plays in their back yard. His teams have been pretty consistently picked apart by good finals sides. The list now moves from good to probably bordering on great with a second key back maybe the one weakness.

It’s a different time line to someone like Hardwick or Goodwin who built up a bad side, faltered for a year or so before getting back on track.

He’s now extended so it won’t happen but I really think he was a candidate to move in to a director of coaching role and be replaced by a fresh voice.

 

[master bate]

Plenty of old senior coaches have taken on advisory roles at clubs as coach coaches etc. Simpson could easily get another head coach role somewhere else but I'd still be asking the question if I was Carlton, often senior coaches want to take a break from the stress and pressure of being the front man at a club when they depart.

Simpson’s only 47 and won’t want to disrupt his family. I think the Eagles know exactly where they are at and are fine with another down year before momentum starts to build.

But even if he did part ways I think he either walks in to a new head coaching job or sits a year out before a new job, unless he likes the media or whatever else he does in the gap year.

Of the premiership coaches who have been let go since 2000;

• Choc Williams went to GWS as the coach really, thinking he’d get the job properly post Sheedy
• Roos was unique and found the academy job
• Mick took a year off then straight to Carlton
• Bomber had his issues
• Clarko a years paid leave then straight to North

The only one who ended up an assistant was Worsfold, who stepped away and only came in to a permanent assistant job after the Walsh tragedy. Then landed the Bombers job.

Obviously there’s good coaches like Don Pyke who take assistant jobs but he’s a bit older, has cash in the bank, had a nightmare ending at the Crows and even then could’ve had a job last year or even before then had he wanted it.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Simpson’s only 47 and won’t want to disrupt his family. I think the Eagles know exactly where they are at and are fine with another down year before momentum starts to build.

But even if he did part ways I think he either walks in to a new head coaching job or sits a year out before a new job, unless he likes the media or whatever else he does in the gap year.

Of the premiership coaches who have been let go since 2000;

• Choc Williams went to GWS as the coach really, thinking he’d get the job properly post Sheedy
• Roos was unique and found the academy job
• Mick took a year off then straight to Carlton
• Bomber had his issues
• Clarko a years paid leave then straight to North

The only one who ended up an assistant was Worsfold, who stepped away and only came in to a permanent assistant job after the Walsh tragedy. Then landed the Bombers job.

Obviously there’s good coaches like Don Pyke who take assistant jobs but he’s a bit older, has cash in the bank, had a nightmare ending at the Crows and even then could’ve had a job last year or even before then had he wanted it.

All fair points. Either way I'd love to get some of his IP down at the Blues. God knows our defence needs it.

 

[citizen-erased]

Reckon this will be the year none are sacked.

Perhaps a retirement/step away after long tenure. But none really stick out

 

[Purple Suit]

Reckon this will be the year none are sacked.

Perhaps a retirement/step away after long tenure. But none really stick out

This is the same as the top 4 / 8 not changing. No data has come in during the offseason so it's easy to think it will be similar although clubs have been working at it for nearly 5 months now. Wait till the losses mount on some coaches which statistically has to happen.

There are also 18 coaches now and Carlton sack one every 2-3 seasons.

No one retires, its a tap on the shoulder or they get crushed by the pressure.

 

[demondavey]

Not sure how it can’t be Dew.

Gold Coast have never played finals and he has coached for 6 years this year. Has to be under the more pressure.

 

[demondavey]

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No chance…

 

[JackFlash]

I like Kenny, but I think he's in strife come the BYE and they are 5-6?

The shocker could still be Clarko!

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Hinkley

Just keeping the seat warm for Josh Carr

Josh Carr

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44

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179cm

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80kg

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Mid

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Last 5

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17.8

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.0

4star

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D

12.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

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2.6

3star

T

0.8

3star

 

[sydney_gws]

Not sure how it can’t be Dew.

Gold Coast have never played finals and he has coached for 6 years this year. Has to be under the more pressure.

Maybe they think some players more likely to remain on Gold Coast if he is coach, hence the reluctance to remove him as coach.

 

[PowerLil]

Hinkley

Just keeping the seat warm for Josh Carr

Promise?

 

[WillHayward]

Simmo must be under pressure.

 

[yamborghinidream]

Simmo must be under pressure.

Both parties should have acknowledged they hit the end of the road.

Nothing wrong with that, relationships get tired. But they're walking eyes wide shut into the meat grinder with this dreadful status quo.

 

[BigVic]

Simpson hands down

 

[Purple Suit]

Simmo must be under pressure.

Freo went 4 years not winning a final before Ross Lyon got sacked. West Coast will be 4 seasons at the end of the year or 2/3rds when they mathematically out of it. I’m waiting for the knives to replace puff pieces soon in the local crap paper.

 

[WillHayward]

Freo went 4 years not winning a final before Ross Lyon got sacked. West Coast will be 4 seasons at the end of the year or 2/3rds when they mathematically out of it. I’m waiting for the knives to replace puff pieces soon in the local crap paper.

Not sure winning a final is the right metric here. Simmo won a flag so that's credits in the bank re finals.

His problem now is they finished last year with a % of 59.

Two seasons that bad and anyone is in strife.

 

[WillHayward]

Won't be the King!!


King Kenny

 

[random260]

The Power players truly love their coach. It's Hinkleys last year in his contract and we saw Power players fight for him. Brisbane has the most talented squad this year BY far. Their own ungrateful supporters vandalised their own club property in order to force Hinkley's sacking. The players know it and the board know it Hinkley single handily saved Port from relegation. Their own supporters don't realise how good they got it having a mastermind coach like uncle Kenny.

I don't see how they sack Hinkley this year. You will have a mass player exodus and the AFL will not be helping you. JHF and Rioli came for Hinkley. They both need a father figure and Hinkley provides that.

Koch needs to act fast or risk losing him to GCS.

 

[WillHayward]

Dew Bevo and Simmo already under pressure.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Dew Bevo and Simmo already under pressure.

Sometimes good coaches stay too long at the 1 club...

 

[demondavey]

Dew is at the top and it’s not even close.