Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2021/2022

[Turbocat]

Shouldn’t the roles goes to those best qualified for them and not be based on their genders? Being an elite coach in a different sport does not translate as being elite in AFL….the sport day to day stuff is completely different to netball let alone tactics and gameday preparations ects

It has nothing to do with discrimination and more to do with the fact that she feels so entitled that she doesn’t want to go to a lower league and work her way up to prove herself that she can do the job.

No. Its a comp for women. Any man in the afl would be a star in the W comp but obviously that has nothing to do with who is best qualified or who has the best talent or knowledge. Just like the women players, the coaches also need to be developed. If they are ever to be involved in a serious way..ever to be the best "qualified" for an AFL role then they need a start and that should be in the W.

Now if it was fully profesional full time comp..then perhaps I would take a different approach but its not. Its a supplemented subsidised comp that is supported for from the mens comp and that is done for very good reasons. I think one has to keep in mind what role the comp is doing. It there to allow women to particpate in the sport. That should apply on and off the field.


As far Alexander and Netball etc ... Im not advocating for her to be a AFL coach , I think we are a long way from having a manger that never played tha game, let alone a female one. I doubt we could appoint Ange Postecoglou or Brian Goorjian either , and having them incharge of Danger and Selwood types etc.

As far as her footh knowledge goes...that im not sure. Alexander actually talked about cross over from one sport to another but Im not advancing her ..as much as the women that are ready to coach who have played the game etc. She mentioned GWS girl but Id say there would be multiple women that could do the role.




EDIT: I think thre are multiple name on here that have done the hard yards...and in relation to DelSanto ... just what coaching and prep has he done at lower level to prep him? Has he coach NABL for example or VFLW?

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[winty]

They wouldn’t have a team by half way through the year, cause most would have been sacked or permanently banished to the vfl lol.

And the other half would be suspended after being told to take out the star player from the opposition each week.

 

[thejester]

We used to have a supporter poster here on BF whose life seemed catastrophic if we lost, and affected his mental health.

Are you sure you want to use the singular here?

 

[thejester]

Good point. Would love to see what her gameplan would be though. Considering she has no football experience, what the hell could she do? I’d have just about as much chance of getting the job as she does.

To be fair not uncommon in other sports for senior coaches or managers to basically delegate tactics to assistants. Hasn't Alexander spoken about focusing on player management/motivation?

 

[Down at K Park]

To be fair not uncommon in other sports for senior coaches or managers to basically delegate tactics to assistants. Hasn't Alexander spoken about focusing on player management/motivation?

The head coach sets the way he wants the team to play. The game plan basically. He then delegates to the assistants to get their group working towards that plan. She has zero experience at this. Afl coaches aren’t player managers.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

The bastion for Australia's progressive feminism movement, The Herald Sun releases the article, you've reacted exactly in the way they wanted... no one is advocating for it, they ran the same article with the same netball coach November last year about the North Melbourne Job just to get a rise out of people.

Likely, however did she go for the job?
It's kind of irrelevant who is the one publicly stating something provided it's fact, and I'm in no way defending the herald scum. Nothing I said was controversial in the slightest.

 

[Turkey Tom]

Lisa Alexander - this should stop the conversation - she is a Hawthorn supporter. Enough said!

 

[FredLeDeux]

Lisa Alexander - this should stop the conversation - she is a Hawthorn supporter. Enough said!

Well, perfect back-up for Collingwood after they dipped out on Sniper Sam.

 

[cats_09]

Is this so they can trade him before he's a FA? The way folks were speaking earlier this season, sounded like it was going to be a big contract & long term that Bolton would be signing

 

[Hamingja]

2 years is a good move for Richmond.

This year is averaging 23 touches and 1.4 goals in wins and 18 touches and 0.8 goals in losses.

With more Ls than Ws ahead for Richmond we will see how he backs it up.

I would have taken a Tim Kelly

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like contract if I was Bolton.

 

[cats_09]

2 years is a good move for Richmond.

This year is averaging 23 touches and 1.4 goals in wins and 18 touches and 0.8 goals in losses.

With more Ls than Ws ahead for Richmond we will see how he backs it up.

I would have taken a Tim Kelly like contract if I was Bolton.

I know that earlier in the season when he went through that real hot patch there was speculation of a big pay deal and other clubs being interested

Do we actually know if there was any other clubs interested or was it was media BS

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Carlton is in shambles again this week. The supporters are furious because the board wants to change their club constitution without getting input from their members. It all seems to be to consolidate the power in the club to a certain group. This is on top of the review which is due to be submitted tomorrow.


It's come out that the person Taylor Walker

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racially slurred was former Saints player Robbie Young who now plays in the SANFL.

 

[Down at K Park]

Carlton is in shambles again this week. The supporters are furious because the board wants to change their club constitution without getting input from their members. It all seems to be to consolidate the power in the club to a certain group. This is on top of the review which is due to be submitted tomorrow.


It's come out that the person Taylor Walker racially slurred was former Saints player Robbie Young who now plays in the SANFL.

Apparently said to matt crouch "you need to smash that black campaigner". If that is the case, he's in a world of hurt. I cannot understand how this dumb moron is considered a club legend, when he has completely destroyed the crows culture by abusing players leaving, defending the club after the disastrous camp (where indigenous players came off the worst) and now this. They'd be better off sacking him, cause he's just a cancer.

 

[cats_09]

Apparently said to matt crouch "you need to smash that black campaigner". If that is the case, he's in a world of hurt. I cannot understand how this dumb moron is considered a club legend, when he has completely destroyed the crows culture by abusing players leaving, defending the club after the disastrous camp (where indigenous players came off the worst) and now this. They'd be better off sacking him, cause he's just a cancer.

Did they re-sign him for another year earlier this season?

They may be regretting that now because would have been much easier to just not give him a new contract

 

[Down at K Park]

Did they re-sign him for another year earlier this season?

They may be regretting that now because would have been much easier to just not give him a new contract

Yeah got a 1 year deal.

The club is completely blind to the terrible influence both Tex and Riccuto have on the clubs culture. But both are hailed as absolute legends of the club. No wonder they are in such a shambles, and players keep leaving.

 

[Strange Cat]

Yeah got a 1 year deal.

The club is completely blind to the terrible influence both Tex and Riccuto have on the clubs culture. But both are hailed as absolute legends of the club. No wonder they are in such a shambles, and players keep leaving.

You do have to laugh at all the Adel fans leaping to his defence in the rumours thread ….absolutely blind loyalty

 

[Strange Cat]

The Adel bird thread is disgusting , just constant justification for the alleged racist remark and how betts should come out to defend Taylor ect

 

[Goggin Our Best]

The Adel bird thread is disgusting , just constant justification for the alleged racist remark and how betts should come out to defend Taylor ect

Like they say - there is 3 sides to every story - yours - theirs - and the truth

Id wait for the truth to come out - before you put the blindfold on Tex and make him walk the plank

 

[Strange Cat]

Like they say - there is 3 sides to every story - yours - theirs - and the truth

Id wait for the truth to come out - before you put the blindfold on Tex and make him walk the plank

I agree to an extent but there’s enough fire out there to not be defending him blindly like what they are doing …it’s a strange stance considering what has occurred and if what he said is being reported as true I can’t see him having a career in football much longer

 

[TheWoodenSlug]

I agree that we need confirmation of what was actually said before we string Walker up, but the most damning thing for me is that it was apparently his own teammates that made the complaint. If true, that speaks volumes.

 

[Strange Cat]

I agree that we need confirmation of what was actually said before we string Walker up, but the most damning thing for me is that it was apparently his own teammates that made the complaint. If true, that speaks volumes.

He didn’t even turn up for training today , I say he’s very ****ed judging by what was allegedly said

 

[cats_09]

I agree that we need confirmation of what was actually said before we string Walker up, but the most damning thing for me is that it was apparently his own teammates that made the complaint. If true, that speaks volumes.

And the Crows have kept him away from training today as they didn't want the media circus around him - that's a bit telling that they are concerned about the situation

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Apparently said to matt crouch "you need to smash that black campaigner". If that is the case, he's in a world of hurt. I cannot understand how this dumb moron is considered a club legend, when he has completely destroyed the crows culture by abusing players leaving, defending the club after the disastrous camp (where indigenous players came off the worst) and now this. They'd be better off sacking him, cause he's just a cancer.

He's a big lad who speaks ok in a club of bogans and morons who are stuck in the 1970s.
Rucitto is a club legend and he speaks like a drunk at a local pub.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Walker has had a respectable career, even for a meathead. But this is going to tarnish it. He really isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[Strange Cat]

Walker has had a respectable career, even for a meathead. But this is going to tarnish it. He really isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Yep there’s no real salvaging from saying what he allegedly said, not even McGuire could spin that