Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II

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If Melbourne fail to go back-to-back, wonder what pressure will be put on some of their list management decisions this year; Brayshaw re-signed for 6 years (2028), Petracca for 6 years (2029) & Oliver for 7 years (2030) - both Petracca & Oliver were signed for next season, so they were signed on long term extension before a contract year

It's good to sure up the midfield, but with other pressing needs have they potentially shot themselves in the foot
Trading luke jackson might be great or not. If they can turn him into a couple of good players it will be good for the age profile of the list. No guarantees about draft picks though.
 

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I’m not so sure Collingwood will be “found out” in finals.

Their game style works in finals. It’s literally a cut and paste job of Richmond’s 2017 game style.
Pressure all over the ground and get it forward in waves.

They will have a wave of supporters behind them at the MCG. Last night they were extremely vocal and it wasn’t even a final.

I was completely wrong about them. They were brilliant last night.

I might have to go back and watch our game against them earlier in the year to see how we nullified their gameplan.

I think we would beat them again due to our fitness, but I wouldn’t go into the game confident at all.
 
Not really. They were dominated all over the ground last night

409 disposals to 316.

162 contested possessions to 138.

65 inside 50s to 41.

52 clearances to 32.

21 centre clearances to 7.

Melbourne just threw that one away. They should've been up 8 goals at the half.

They remind me of say, 2017 Geelong on steroids. We scraped across the line in about 6 games that year, it could've been 7 had Hawkins kicked the goal against GWS, we finished second and were just way out of our depth come finals.
And yet the pies won. That’s a number of games now that people look at the stats and say- pies should have lost. Yet they won. You can’t win 11 games in a row by the opposition throwing it away.
I didn’t feel watching last night that the dees really dominated the whole game. The dees looked a bit feeble in the forward line, and the pies backline kept repelling them.
The pies were efficient and effective, regardless of how much of the ball Melbourne had. They got their goals more easily. Pies got them pretty easily over the back, dees had to go the long way round. Pies looked the more likely in the last quarter/second half.
I think we are better than them but I’m not taking them lightly. They have a lot of confidence in their game and their pressure is great- they were just swarming all over the dees in the last quarter, didn’t give them any space or nothing easy, and that stuff counts. Funnily enough they should have beaten us early this year- it’s a long way back now and we are miles better. Not sure they have improved nearly as much as we have since then.
 
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That's good that you concede it is an emotional response rather than logical deduction at least. Nothing wrong with that, it's one of the idiosyncrasies of being deeply attached to something.

Any MCG host team with a big fan base is dangerous to Geelong when they catch form. Simply because we might have to face them at their home ground even if we are the "home" team.

It's simply something Geelong premiership teams have to face. 07, 09, 11 there were those tests. I'd rather face interstate teams but it's likely we will have to beat one, if not both, of Melbourne and Collingwood this finals series.
Nothing about my support of Geelong is logical. I can not even watch games live, and have paid a fortune for memberships!! Apart from a GF- that I would watch live.
 

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Haven’t seen Vdubs this excited since North was 10-1 in 2016! :p

Did you forget about a couple of weeks ago when the Bulldogs had a come from behind win over Melbourne (seems to be a trend there...) and that the Bulldogs were the real deal without any weaknesses...
 
Hopper and Bruhn having very average games
McVeigh said last week that he believes a few players may have already checked out - if that's the case (while disappointing), it can be harder to read into the form of the player

Are they actually down on form & disappointing, or is it that they're ready for the end of the season and a fresh start in 2023?

I think we're seeing some of the same with Narkle at VFL level

Let's see how those players go next season if they find a new home
 
I think Melb are still clear favourites for the flag - what happened last night - is whats happened to them about 3-4 times this - theve been in control but wasted their inside 50 dominance . Ijust think with the finals they will be alot more ruthless and efficient - like in the 2nd qtr they could have put a sizeable gap on Collingwood

And if they are - look out for the team their playing - (and hopefully not Geel ) because they will absolutely bury them

Richmond - they were very impressive last week against the Lions - watching that whole game - you just knew the Tigers would get up and win - and they did - the 3rd qtr - Bris couldnt handle the pressure - Cotchin after a bit of a break played really well - very sharp - the Grimes injury is a bummmer for them - and you dont know what the situation is with Martin . But Rich have had a bizzarre season - they could easily be equal top - theve still got to qualify -(got a tricky one today over in Adel against Port) but the only team they would be concerned about is Melb - who beat them convincincly in general play earlier in the year

Thus Melb - and i do think that switch - that ruthless switch will be flicked come Sept - and they are clearly the best - and if they do take their chances - they can score rapid fire goals

I would then group Coll - Geel and Rich level

Sydney - i think there is more hype than substance

Carlton StK WB and Freo are just making up the numbers
 
Toby Greene is by far the best small forward in the game. Such an excellent player.
 
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