Non Lions Discussion 2024

[BangyBangy]

On the flip side. If it turns out to be Richmond that we end up trading with for pick 20. It's probably better for us that they make out like bandits on the Rioli & Bolton trades.

 

[mpal6]

On the flip side. If it turns out to be Richmond that we end up trading with for pick 20. It's probably better for us that they make out like bandits on the Rioli & Bolton trades.

Historically Richmond always have a liking for our academy players. We're going to find out whether that extends to our father sons too.

 

[Elixuh]

Noble has a few years left under contract so the Suns will need to pay a bit more than market value to get him IMO.

I agree if it’s an A grader or even a decent B grader. But noble is a slightly better than if not a fringe player. A good C grade player. When those guys want out for more opportunity I don’t think you need to pay crazy overs historically.

Won’t noble also be out of the team if they get Houston? So he is as I said effectively fringe and probably not getting a game next year if they get Houston.

 

[Sanchez365]

Nobles value is about equal to Devs value. I look forward to use getting a first round pick for him too -_-

 

[M Malice]

Nobles value is about equal to Devs value. I look forward to use getting a first round pick for him too -_-

I have been a fan of Dev's but IMO Dev is substantially below John Noble's value in any hypothetical trade, Noble has played consistently in a contending team for a number of years, only missed a handful of games since the 2020 season, has played 112 career games and played 23 games in their 2023 flag season.

Dev has a total of 43 career games over 5 seasons.

 

[Sanchez365]

I have been a fan of Dev's but IMO Dev is substantially below John Noble's value in any hypothetical trade, Noble has played consistently in a contending team for a number of years, only missed a handful of games since the 2020 season, has played 112 career games and played 23 games in their 2023 flag season.

Dev has a total of 43 career games over 5 seasons

It was a pretty tongue in cheek comment. I don't actually think dev is worth a first round.

 

[briztoon]

lol the Rioli for pick 6 & 23 originated from a SEN nuffie caller yesterday, and it’s grown from there, and Korns doing his Volkano routine this morning.

And that’s from SEN this afternoon.

 

[captainrich]

lol the Rioli for pick 6 & 23 originated from a SEN nuffie caller yesterday, and it’s grown from there, and Korns doing his Volkano routine this morning.

And that’s from SEN this afternoon.

Any inclusion of pick 6 for Rioli is ridiculous but

 

[Perrip]

lol the Rioli for pick 6 & 23 originated from a SEN nuffie caller yesterday, and it’s grown from there, and Korns doing his Volkano routine this morning.

It'll get done for Pick 6 and that'll be that.

Callum Dick in the Courier Mail wrote up an interesting article about it this morning. He reckons that the SUNS current list management strategy is to bank enough points to draft their academy players in the 2023, 2024, & 2025 drafts while using their top picks, i.e. Pick 6 this year, to get talented players, i.e. Noble & Rioli, to the SUNS.

 

[paulige]

Heard Kane Cornes this morning basically comparing this deal with what we gave up for Lachie Neale (pick 6 and 19 and 55) and getting pick 30 back and saying Gold Coast are crazy noting how well we did for a player that was younger and a proven player having won B&Fs at Freo compared to Rioli having not achieved much other than being fortunate to play in some premiership teams.

Posted the below a week ago - it concerns me that Kane and I are thinking similarly.

For Neale, we gave up 6, 19, and 55, with 30 in return - that’s equivalent to 6 and 35, for Neale.

A better player, with a better body of work, when he was 2 years younger - by all objective measures Rioli is simply not worth anywhere near that.

Gold Coast should pitch unders of 12 and 38, Richmond ask overs of 12 and 20, and agree to split the middle with 12 and 26, the equivalent of pick 5, which is generous enough - maybe some late pick swaps if either club is still unhappy.

Richmond can bring in two quality players for the long term, GC can give their list a boost for a shot at the 8.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I couldn't care less if the Suns are ripped off. And pick 6 is flat out robbery.

 

[MSB ROYS]

lol the Rioli for pick 6 & 23 originated from a SEN nuffie caller yesterday, and it’s grown from there, and Korns doing his Volkano routine this morning.

And that’s from SEN this afternoon.

Making their own news, then outrage and then outrage at the outrage. Rinse and repeat.

 

[captainrich]

Apparently Tigers asked for pick 6 and 13...ridonkulous

 

[Saucery]

Apparently Tigers asked for pick 6 and 13...ridonkulous

Ridonkulous? I tried to goolge him but I can't find anything?

 

[Nathan Barley]

So David Misson,GM of footy at the Saints, says the Battle compo was fair and then names 3 guys who have hardly played as players that can fill his shoes????

Not sure I've heard an employee of a football club say a more stupid sentence

 

[Nathan Barley]

Would be a huge misstep if the Hawks get Battle but **** up the Barrass trade

 

[Elixuh]

Would be a huge misstep if the Hawks get Battle but **** up the Barrass trade

You can’t commit to him the way hawthorn have and then not get that deal done

 

[golions]

Would be a huge misstep if the Hawks get Battle but **** up the Barrass trade

Wonder why they traded away Pick 14 in a great draft year - threatens to blow up the Barrass trade

 

[Big Sauce 21]

They'll likely send next years first.

 

[martinson]

Posted the below a week ago - it concerns me that Kane and I are thinking similarly.

In a combination of good management, a player friendly culture and some luck we got hold of Neale and Daniher for a song.

I don't think anyone here wouldn't have thought they both weren't as cheap as chips at the time.

 

[captainrich]

Posted the below a week ago - it concerns me that Kane and I are thinking similarly.

Forgetting inflation

 

[captainrich]

Saw the noble trade collingwood has throw. Future first and noble for pick 13 and 23. It's almost like everyone just wants a peice of winning trades against GC

 

[Tom14]

In a combination of good management, a player friendly culture and some luck we got hold of Neale and Daniher for a song.

I don't think anyone here wouldn't have thought they both weren't as cheap as chips at the time.

Joe was probably seen as a bit more dicey given the injury risk. I do remember the Neale trade initially had a few a bit concerned we'd traded out our future first to get pick 19 but think all thought it was a good deal overall.

 

[Nathan Barley]

How dumb do you have to be to think this is ok?

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-alerted-after-convicted-killer-spotted-in-essendon-change-rooms/news-story/cd0ab2520fbed7decdbfca2e5ca85947

 

[Section 5]

How dumb do you have to be to think this is ok?

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-alerted-after-convicted-killer-spotted-in-essendon-change-rooms/news-story/cd0ab2520fbed7decdbfca2e5ca85947

Not a great look in hindsight pun intended.
I am not sure clubs do a police criminal check on people when players okay a friend/family person to come into the dressing room.

It is quite possible Hind did not know Yucel had been convicted of manslaughter. Maybe he did but that's yet to come out.
It is usually not something you ask someone you met at a coffee shop only a few months ago.
BT certainly did not know the guys past, and he knows everyone