North ..... Young Or Mentally Fragile ?

[soyouthink10]

Why do people always think that they are so 'young'?

Because they have the 4th or 5th youngest list in the league...

 

[vonn]

At what point does North stop being 'young?' All I hear from their supporters is how young and talented they are. Are they ever going to 'deliver' on that talent? Merely going off Bigfooty a few years back, you'd think their list would have won 3 premierships by now.

 

[Snake_Baker]

When was the last time your team was involved in a low scoring defensive arm wrestle? Every time I watch a North match, it's just a rebounding score fest.

Why would we want to be "involved in a low scoring defensive arm wrestle?"

I just want to be a kick ahead when the siren blows instead of being a kick behind.

 

[garlic munchers]

Coaching from the Worsfold pre-2006 book of coaching doesn't help.

Man on man won't stop a run on in modern football and do they have plan for guarding space?

He often looks just like Worsfold, steely grimace as the game screams out for the coaches box to make a change - any change as the game slips away!

Only difference is that the mask slips from time to time and we get a truly WTF expression and gesture to the rest of the coaches box, who all just look back at the Scott boy.

On another issue, those that say Petrie was putrid in the last 5 minutes are just plain wrong. He did everything he could to save a sinking ship.

 

[nicshata]

Hate to agree with the trolls but he is a down hill skier - cannot remember the last time he kicked a clutch goal

Not just goals but he had the ball twice in the last 2-3 min on defensive 50 from a mark or free kick and instead of trying to kill time by keeping possession he bombs it mindlessly to the same spot twice.

No leadership at all shown by Petrie. Not a great decision maker when the pressure is on.

 

[Tas]

At what point does North stop being 'young?' All I hear from their supporters is how young and talented they are. Are they ever going to 'deliver' on that talent? Merely going off Bigfooty a few years back, you'd think their list would have won 3 premierships by now.

Dogs fielded an older side than us when we played them yet it is okay, they are rebuilding, right?

We will stop being a young team when our players get older, but I thought that would be a given.

Are they ever going to deliver? Deliver based on who's expectation? Before the season started I was doubtful we would make the finals this year with our draw, in every game vs the contender I stated my objective was that we don't get blown out of the water. You aren't really on the cusp of delivering when supporters just want you to be competitive. We have a long way to go. On the bright side, the rest of the competition isn't that flash hot.

There isn't a side that has done anything more than make up the numbers with the age/experience profile we have, we only have 3 or 4 guys with 150+ games of experience, the contenders have 11+. Does anyone have a solution for this other than the 2-3 years shortfall we have on the contenders? There isn't a quicker way to get the experience as far as I know of. We can do the deck chair shuffle on the Titanic exchanging mediocre players who can't get a game elsewhere, but we are happy with the quality of the players coming in over recent years, they just don't have the maturity needed to go from competitive to be a contender.

The loss to Adelaide and Eagles were disappointing and there are no real excuses for it other than we didn't play well enough for four quarters, we play well but drop off in terms of intensity when we get to safe points late in games and once you drop a few like that it gives the opposition belief and yourself doubts.

The first hurdle is playing well enough to actually get into winning positions, the second and easier hurdle is putting the sword to mediocre opposition you easily get to 40+ point leads on.

 

[Benno_900]

Not just goals but he had the ball twice in the last 2-3 min on defensive 50 from a mark or free kick and instead of trying to kill time by keeping possession he bombs it mindlessly to the same spot twice.

No leadership at all shown by Petrie. Not a great decision maker when the pressure is on.

He didn't really have a choice.

No teammate was presenting or creating space for him.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Average age and games played for 2013:

Club|AvAge|AvGms
\Sy|26.72|123.4
\Ha|25.93|113.0
\St|25.73|101.1
\Ge|25.65|101.2
\Fr|25.43|85.4
\Co|25.42|102.0
\Ca|25.37|93.5
\WC|25.35|98.1
\Es|25.01|82.8
\Ri|24.96|89.2
\NM|24.76|83.9
\WB|24.65|77.9
\Ad|24.58|78.9
\Br|24.58|80.4
\Me|24.18|60.0
\PA|23.72|67.0
\GC|23.16|57.3
\GWS|21.78|32.1

 

[Wattos Waste]

This was probably already said because its quite obvious.. but L Thomas & D Petrie.... when they don't get helped out by the umpires they are no threat at all

 

[*PAF]

Dogs fielded an older side than us when we played them yet it is okay, they are rebuilding, right?

We will stop being a young team when our players get older, but I thought that would be a given.
...

There isn't a side that has done anything more than make up the numbers with the age/experience profile we have, we only have 3 or 4 guys with 150+ games of experience, the contenders have 11+. Does anyone have a solution for this other than the 2-3 years shortfall we have on the contenders? ...

Adelaide 24y 143d - 1778 Games - 9 players under 50 games
Nth 25y 92d - 2171 Games - 6 players under 50 games

 

[Bestbird]

Average age and games played for 2013:

Club|AvAge|AvGms
\Sy|26.72|123.4
\Ha|25.93|113.0
\St|25.73|101.1
\Ge|25.65|101.2
\Fr|25.43|85.4
\Co|25.42|102.0
\Ca|25.37|93.5
\WC|25.35|98.1
\Es|25.01|82.8
\Ri|24.96|89.2
\NM|24.76|83.9
\WB|24.65|77.9
\Ad|24.58|78.9
\Br|24.58|80.4
\Me|24.18|60.0
\PA|23.72|67.0
\GC|23.16|57.3
\GWS|21.78|32.1

They will probably move up the ladder a bit more with Harvey now playing as well.

 

[Tas]

Adelaide 24y 143d - 1778 Games - 9 players under 50 games
Nth 25y 92d - 2171 Games - 6 players under 50 games

Thats nice but i wasn't talking about Adelaide. They are in the same basket we are in, they are no real show of contending. Does it really matter if either side makes the finals this year?

 

[*PAF]

Thats nice but i wasn't talking about Adelaide. They are in the same basket we are in, they are no real show of contending. Does it really matter if either side makes the finals this year?

I don't think Adelaide are that far away with their full side, however the loss of picks will hurt them in years to come.
How they ended up being the only team to lose picks is another story.

 

[Thats Wright]

At what point does North stop being 'young?' All I hear from their supporters is how young and talented they are. Are they ever going to 'deliver' on that talent? Merely going off Bigfooty a few years back, you'd think their list would have won 3 premierships by now.

North are a different lot and as predictable as any bastard child of Carlton and Richmond should be. They have a recent history of becoming very content with themselves after what others would deem trivial victories.

The coaching staff could best be described as consistent "b" grade and these days, slightly stale. Scott is caught up in 'processes' and 'loyalties' that are at best admirable and at worst completely delusional.

The leadership group isn't Premiership material unfortunately and there's not 1 player to tell it how it is or be serious for 5 minutes.

The club has 5 years remaining of the "Lindsay Thomas Curse" so these close losses are some what of a blessing to avoid the next finals debacle.

Using Thomas as full forward for most of the Adelaide game came back to bite Scott in the arse. The midfield wont bust a nut to feed the fraud who is a tip rat with a wannabe paper crown. They build to fail and are perfectly suited to rounds 10-20 when other clubs are in cruise mode. They will lose many finals if they make them and wont be a force until Ziebell is captain and the front runner clowns have been weeded out.

The whole club are deluded right down from the jocular President and antique North assistants to the large group of infected players without a backbone.

 

[Tippett2Goal]

wow the OTC footage of last 5 minutes is damning, not one Roos player within a meter of an opponent for 4 consecutive sets of play.

 

[Kram]

4 on 4 inside the Roos' defensive 50 with 40 seconds to go..

 

[John Dorian]

Mentally fragile and a lack of a defensive side to the game plan.

Boy can we kick some goals when we are up and running, but geez we can let some in just as easy.

 

[Thats Wright]

Mentally fragile and a lack of a defensive side to the game plan.

Boy can we kick some goals when we are up and running, but geez we can let some in just as easy.

Who cares when Lindsay gets ahead of the play and leads the Coleman.

Like the rest of the buffoons on the coaching panel and bigfooty that's all that matters to me. Bugger that building a sustainable structure and all that.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Who cares when Lindsay gets ahead of the play and leads the Coleman.

Like the rest of the buffoons on the coaching panel and bigfooty that's all that matters to me. Bugger that building a sustainable structure and all that.

You still carrying on about Lindsay Thomas? You are a deadset dickhead.

 

[Thats Wright]

You still carrying on about Lindsay Thomas? You are a deadset dickhead.

Haven't they banned you types from the scouts yet.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Haven't they banned you types from the scouts yet.

Is it Internet time at the insane asylum? Did your family come to visit you this week? Indigenous round must really piss you off hey.

 

[Thats Wright]

Is it Internet time at the insane asylum? Did your family come to visit you this week? Indigenous round must really piss you off hey.

Hope you aren't getting your Darren Jolly's over this interaction weirdo.

Am fine with Indigenous round, just can't stand that fraud Lindsay Thomas. Sick of his acting, diving, playing dead and being the main reason the side is as gutless as you after a sauna.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Adelaide 24y 143d - 1778 Games - 9 players under 50 games
Nth 25y 92d - 2171 Games - 6 players under 50 games

Yeah they can't use the age excuse for this particular game. Adelaide are also a young team.

I'd say it was a mixture of a couple of things for North, first being a lack of on-field leadership. The senior players needed to stand up. All North had to do was maintain possession and milk the clock. It's really basic footy.

Also fitness may have had something to do with it. In those last 3 minutes in particular the Roo's we're very sluggish around the contest. Watch the footage and you can see way too many of them jogging or running at half pace while the Crows we're still running at 100%.

 

[E Shed]

we are doing ok with less than a year between our average age and about a game more experience per player. Structures and discipline. Coaching.

 

[Kram]

Yeah but how boring is that...