Nrl 3.8 Million & Afl 3.3 Million

[littleduck]

The ratings just show up the fact that AFL are lucky to get 50% more tv rights money than the NRL when viewership is often remarkably close for our 2 most popular brands of football. Then again, when RL has a dogs breakfast governing structure and Sydney-centric administrators its not hard to see why AFL and its fully centralised 1 body rules all governing structure are screwing more dollars from broadcasters.

The question them becomes... is AFL getting overs or NRL getting unders?

 

[HitEmHardFreo]

The ratings just show up the fact that AFL are lucky to get 50% more tv rights money than the NRL when viewership is often remarkably close for our 2 most popular brands of football. Then again, when RL has a dogs breakfast governing structure and Sydney-centric administrators its not hard to see why AFL and its fully centralised 1 body rules all governing structure are screwing more dollars from broadcasters.

The question them becomes... is AFL getting overs or NRL getting unders?

Ah, LD, you haven't changed.
Those excuses don't and won't wash anymore.

 

[RUNVS]

One of the main reasons the AFL got a better television rights deal over the NRL is because of the length of both games. The AFL and NRL may have similar ratings for each match but a AFL match is considerably longer than a NRL match and as a result those viewers spend more time on the channel broadcasting the AFL.

 

[Rob]

One of the main reasons the AFL got a better television rights deal over the NRL is because of the length of both games. The AFL and NRL may have similar ratings for each match but a AFL match is considerably longer than a NRL match and as a result those viewers spend more time on the channel broadcasting the AFL.

Except that the AFL and NRL generally don't get similar ratings. Despite the fact that AFL matches are broadcast over an hour longer than an NRL match, they still generally pull a substantially higher average audience.

 

[darren forssman]

do these stastics skewed for any unlikely scenario's?

afl grand final day would usually involve 10-20 people watching the box whilst tending a bbq whereas i could imagine the timing of the nrl final would have more home viewing.

 

[carltonblue]

dave forssman you are 1 smart man
i agree with you

 

[Ronin]

do these stastics skewed for any unlikely scenario's?

afl grand final day would usually involve 10-20 people watching the box whilst tending a bbq whereas i could imagine the timing of the nrl final would have more home viewing.

Do you mean like the throng at every pub on Sunday night, as everyone had the next day off?

 

[Scorpio]

Do you mean like the throng at every pub on Sunday night, as everyone had the next day off?

Not in Queensland they didn't.

People don't tend to have BBQs on a Sunday night either.

 

[Goffa]

The rating difference between evening and afternoon broadcasts points out exactly why I want the day grand final to stay.
It's the difference between treating people as fans & supporters on the one hand or simply consumers on the other.
As people have said on here, people get together to watch the AFL grand final, they have lunch, they go to the pub, they share the experience. If you move it to the nightime slot it's much harder for people to organise something casual. People end up watching it while they're having dinner, while they're getting the kids to bed, and most of all, on their own.
Lots more televisions switched on, but a whole lot less involvement and sharing.

 

[littleduck]

The rating difference between evening and afternoon broadcasts points out exactly why I want the day grand final to stay.

less ratings, less money? a night grand final is fantastic for broadcasters and revenue for the game.

It's the difference between treating people as fans & supporters on the one hand or simply consumers on the other.

i agree. and for that reason a night grand final is a disgrace and an insult to all traditional football fans and their 'grand final day' celebrations.

As people have said on here, people get together to watch the AFL grand final, they have lunch, they go to the pub, they share the experience. If you move it to the nightime slot it's much harder for people to organise something casual. People end up watching it while they're having dinner, while they're getting the kids to bed, and most of all, on their own.
Lots more televisions switched on, but a whole lot less involvement and sharing.

exactly what has happened with the NRL Grand Final. There is a growing groundswell of support in RL circles to bring back the day grand final. This bottom up approach to achieving change gives me hope that the NRL night grand final will merely be a blip on a radar for a few years in the 00's.

David Gallop has done well running a big business football competition, but his worst decisions are unarguably golden point and night grand finals.

 

[randyzany]

So, I shouldn't call them Conquistadors

Getting sidetracked here but you can call them whatever you wanna call the lovely conquering powerful mighty Japanese that cordially captured and imprisoned aussie diggers.

and they aren't Indigenous Indians,

As far as I know Indians can be found in the asian sub-continent and not indigenous to the American continent.

 

[Subprime]

less ratings, less money? a night grand final is fantastic for broadcasters and revenue for the game.

i agree. and for that reason a night grand final is a disgrace and an insult to all traditional football fans and their 'grand final day' celebrations.

exactly what has happened with the NRL Grand Final. There is a growing groundswell of support in RL circles to bring back the day grand final. This bottom up approach to achieving change gives me hope that the NRL night grand final will merely be a blip on a radar for a few years in the 00's.

David Gallop has done well running a big business football competition, but his worst decisions are unarguably golden point and night grand finals.

2007 was the first year for quite a while that the NRL GF was shown live in SA. It use to be when it was a day game. If the NRL wants exposure outside NSW & Qld I reckon a day GF works better. I always watched it when it was live and the 89 GF between Balmain and Canberra was a great game (even tho' Balmain lost). This year was the first GF I've watched for a number of years.

 

[ringleader]

do these stastics skewed for any unlikely scenario's?

afl grand final day would usually involve 10-20 people watching the box whilst tending a bbq whereas i could imagine the timing of the nrl final would have more home viewing.

And the ratings count these people. If someone with a ratings box has 20 people around then they must log them in.

Once a household has been recruited, all television sets are monitored by the meter system. The meter records and stores time, date, television set on/off, channel to which each television set is tuned, capturing all broadcast viewing. All residents and guests register their television usage using a remote control.

Stop trying to make excuses.

 

[ChrisFooty]

All this talk of Australian rules football in NZ.

The AFL will never ever produce a league of any substance outside this country. Not in our lifetime, not even in 1000 years.

The AFL will be a strictly Australian sport, with no international team ever coming in.

 

[mrbehemoth]

exactly what has happened with the NRL Grand Final. There is a growing groundswell of support in RL circles to bring back the day grand final. This bottom up approach to achieving change gives me hope that the NRL night grand final will merely be a blip on a radar for a few years in the 00's.

David Gallop has done well running a big business football competition, but his worst decisions are unarguably golden point and night grand finals.

Damn straight.

 

[mrbehemoth]

I always watched it when it was live and the 89 GF between Balmain and Canberra was a great game (even tho' Balmain lost).

Ah...I cried that day.

 

[darren forssman]

And the ratings count these people. If someone with a ratings box has 20 people around then they must log them in.

if someone has a ratings box?

they could also be so sloshed that they log in extra's!!

statistics can be used to present arguments anyway which.

 

[Hoops]

I don't believe that the NRL GF had more viewers despite what the very questionable accumulative (metro + regionals) ratings say.

The accumulative figures for the AFL was 3.333mil (exc. Tas - don't have Tas figures) and the accumulative figures for the NRL was 3.748mil (exc. Tas)

You see those figures represent about 107% of the people living in NSW, ACT and Qld - due to double counting. But only about 88% of people living in Vic, SA, WA and Tas due to Tas and Regional SA & WA not being included in the totals.

That is why you can't add them up and say this is representative of what Australia watches, especially for something as regionalised as the two codes of Football and Rugby League.

 

[Ronin]

I don't believe that the NRL GF had more viewers despite what the very questionable accumulative (metro + regionals) ratings say.

The accumulative figures for the AFL was 3.333mil (exc. Tas - don't have Tas figures) and the accumulative figures for the NRL was 3.748mil (exc. Tas)

You see those figures represent about 107% of the people living in NSW, ACT and Qld - due to double counting. But only about 88% of people living in Vic, SA, WA and Tas due to Tas and Regional SA & WA not being included in the totals.

That is why you can't add them up and say this is representative of what Australia watches, especially for something as regionalised as the two codes of Football and Rugby League.

Sydney and Brisbane account for 57% of the combined NSW and QLD population.

No wonder you don't want to include regionals (or the ACT).

 

[purremiers]

I think the NRL is in big strife, already its big calling card in the grand final has sold out itself to channel 9 and watching it afterwards the presentation/drama/jubilation was a shadow of what the afl grand final presented!
The nrl's attendances are a joke and the commentary continually has the problem of labelling the game 'football' when it is virtually anything but!

 

[LebaneseForces]

I think the NRL is in big strife, already its big calling card in the grand final has sold out itself to channel 9 and watching it afterwards the presentation/drama/jubilation was a shadow of what the afl grand final presented!

Well I was at the GF and the majority of the crowd were Manly supporters, they got smashed, I don't blame them for not staying, why would you want to watch the opposition do a lap of honour? I wouldn't if me team lost.
Don't worry about RL mate... It's going great guns and only improving.

 

[ChrisFooty]

The ratings just show up the fact that AFL are lucky to get 50% more tv rights money than the NRL when viewership is often remarkably close for our 2 most popular brands of football. Then again, when RL has a dogs breakfast governing structure and Sydney-centric administrators its not hard to see why AFL and its fully centralised 1 body rules all governing structure are screwing more dollars from broadcasters.

The question them becomes... is AFL getting overs or NRL getting unders?

Yeah, the AFL is not worth anywhere near 780mil over five years. Ch.7 just simply paid too much cash for the AFL product.

On the other hand, i would predict Ch.9 is very happy with the amount of money they are paying for the NRL product. SOO, finals, and test series would net great ratings, along with the 3 matches per week.

 

[fishmonger]

anyone watch the Kangaroos whallop the Kiwis at home ?

that is hardly what I'd call international sport.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

anyone watch the Kangaroos whallop the Kiwis at home ?

that is hardly what I'd call international sport.

Only 16,000 bothered to turn up. They were giving away tickets and people still thought it was overpriced.

As an international sport its right up there with duck shooting.

 

[Ronin]

Only 16,000 bothered to turn up. They were giving away tickets and people still thought it was overpriced.

As an international sport its right up there with duck shooting.

Funny how you are having a dig at another sport because it has internationals. So what if it was a blowout, it happens, especially when one team is down to 15 players.

I didn't hear you bleating when the GF of the AFL saw 100 points between the top two teams.

Just remember, that is 17,000 more people than would turn up for an AFL international in NZ.