Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 25

[Coobk001]

People have pretty short memories. Check out the last decade or so of finals results. Absolutely full of away teams winning finals 'against the odds' with Port and Brisbane being regular features as the home team on the end of it. There's no reason to fear away finals based on available evidence. Away grand finals? Now there's something to worry about.

The more Brisbane have lost at home, the more they've learnt and will be harder to topple. They've served their 2002-2003 style failures and will be stronger for it. In fact they showed last year they'd finally worked out finals footy, going to a prelim from the bottom half of the draw. I expect they'll be in the GF this year.

And yes, we lost our home prelims, and it's all good to say we might not win the next one, but what says the result is going to be better away from home? We didn't lose those finals because we were at home, we lost them because we weren't good enough. Play them away and we probably lose both by even more. Then what are you saying? We need to play them at home to have a chance? Its a horribly flawed argument. We know unequivocally that playing at home gives us a better chance of winning. It doesn't guarantee we will, but we will have a better chance.

If you can gain a better % chance of fluking our way to a GF you've gotta be hoping for that. I'm taking a 50% chance of a win at home, over a 10% chance of winning at the Gabba any day of the week. We'll melt under the pressure of a big final and a big charged opposition crowd. Especially the Collingwood crowd, they're riding the crest of a huge wave and the crowd will absolutely scare our boys. We'll panic and if things go wrong at the MCG we'll be 2003 PF all over again.

 

[Expat power]

People have pretty short memories. Check out the last decade or so of finals results. Absolutely full of away teams winning finals 'against the odds' with Port and Brisbane being regular features as the home team on the end of it. There's no reason to fear away finals based on available evidence. Away grand finals? Now there's something to worry about.

Crows only lost by 6 points at the Gabba last week. I’d like to see us play Brisbane at the Gabba. Finals create different footy.

 

[TeeKray]

And yes, we lost our home prelims, and it's all good to say we might not win the next one, but what says the result is going to be better away from home? We didn't lose those finals because we were at home, we lost them because we weren't good enough. Play them away and we probably lose both by even more. Then what are you saying? We need to play them at home to have a chance? Its a horribly flawed argument. We know unequivocally that playing at home gives us a better chance of winning. It doesn't guarantee we will, but we will have a better chance.

Nah. I listened to Emma Murray (who works with Richmond) talk recently about the fight or flight response under high expectation and how in sport you can sometimes get a collective 'freeze' response in this scenario. That's not what happened to us in 2020 but it is what happened in 2021. We simple froze under the pressure and never had a chance as a result. We absolutely would've performed better if that game was on the road.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Crows win two games they are in from what I can tell.

Nope, still relying on other results.

 

[Ah12]

How many teams have won 13 in a row? I can’t imagine any have gone out in straight sets but i feel like it could be a possibility with us this year.

 

[tribey]

Nah. I listened to Emma Murray (who works with Richmond) talk recently about the fight or flight response under high expectation and how in sport you can sometimes get a collective 'freeze' response in this scenario. That's not what happened to us in 2020 but it is what happened in 2021. We simple froze under the pressure and never had a chance as a result. We absolutely would've performed better if that game was on the road.

2017 to an extent too.

44-13, 9 minutes into Q2.

Any sort of start and West Coast are dispatched comfortably.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Collingwood have barely been top 8 standard for a month now, we've been worse

 

[Doctor Feel]

How many teams have won 13 in a row? I can’t imagine any have gone out in straight sets but i feel like it could be a possibility with us this year.

The percentage is a real teller.

 

[JimmyBC]

The percentage is a real teller.

It usually is but didn't we play umpteen games in the wet?

 

[Doctor Feel]

It usually is but didn't we play umpteen games in the wet?

Dunno, but we sure a hell blasted some big leads away with piss.

 

[Willsy10]

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[Chrizzt]

Collingwood have barely been top 8 standard for a month now, we've been worse

Nah, that’s a massive overreaction.

Collingwood only lost Nick Daicos a couple weeks back and then Moore last week.

We’ve been without our whole spine for a few weeks and still demolished the giants, kicking the highest score against them all year.

 

[Ah12]

Nah. I listened to Emma Murray (who works with Richmond) talk recently about the fight or flight response under high expectation and how in sport you can sometimes get a collective 'freeze' response in this scenario. That's not what happened to us in 2020 but it is what happened in 2021. We simple froze under the pressure and never had a chance as a result. We absolutely would've performed better if that game was on the road.

The difference being sides that win the flag/go onto win the flag/have won a recent flag dont seem to have these ‘freezes’. It’s almost as if you wont get a premiership if you are susceptible to folding under expectation like Port/Brisbane have been of recent years.

 

[Doctor Feel]

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(Except the crows or anyone in a prelim)

 

[Ah12]

Nah, that’s a massive overreaction.

Collingwood only lost Nick Daicos a couple weeks back and then Moore last week.

We’ve been without our whole spine for a few weeks and still demolished the giants, kicking the highest score against them all year.

Our Spine is the corpse of Lycett, an injured Dixon and Aliir/Mckenzie. Only one of those lines makes a difference. Put a line through Lycett and Dixon having any impact this year.

 

[gbear]

(Except the crows or anyone in a prelim)

Or Geelong at Kadina park…I could go on but meh.

 

[Ah12]

This is one of the weakest years of footy i can remember. The top teams don’t seem as strong as the sides that won recent flags. Carlton were well outside the 8 and have won 8 in a row. We win 13 in a row and then lose 4 on the bounce.

 

[JimmyBC]

This is one of the weakest years of footy i can remember. The top teams don’t seem as strong as the sides that won recent flags. Carlton were well outside the 8 and have won 8 in a row. We win 13 in a row and then lose 4 on the bounce.

Feels like a year where the equalisation measures have hit, I dunno it's kinda good when it feels open however there's something about genuine top 4 teams & this current lot feel like frauds.

 

[240volt]

why are we going to be 4th at the end of the year?

I’m always pretty up beat about us winning but I just can’t see it happening on Sunday.
It would be our first win there and we still have players out.
100% hope I’m wrong

 

[Waspy79]

I can't believe even after winning 13 in a row we still somehow blow top 2.

I can

 

[Pappagallo]

The final touches
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That’s a pretty good metaphor for what the current regime has done to the club. Even looks Ken lol.

 

[PowerBaz]

Nope, still relying on other results.

True - but if you look at the games I reckon it’s only Geelong and Crows out of Essendon, Giants, WB + Sydney who can win 2 from the next 2 and that gets them in. Also out of those teams some play each other so that deal with that.

 

[PowerBaz]

(Except the crows or anyone in a prelim)

Imagine Tredrea / Timmy G if we lose week 1 in Brizzy and then Crows knock us out.

Seeing as Koch likes statistics so much and that’s why he resigned Ken, stickerman might need to prep some kind of statistics sticker about Ken and aim it at Koch.

 

[JimmyBC]

Imagine Tredrea / Timmy G if we lose week 1 in Brizzy and then Crows knock us out.

Seeing as Koch likes statistics so much and that’s why he resigned Ken, stickerman might need to prep some kind of statistics sticker about Ken and aim it at Koch.

On the flip if we beat the crows in a final that would be the ultimate to the happy clappers.

 

[Windy Cindy]

I’m happy to play Bris up there. All the pressure will be on them

I see them as very gettable.