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Premature delisting discussion thread
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Do you know this? Or are you just speculating? I was under the impression RoJo retired on his own will. He considered doing it before this. Apparently he was already telling those close to him at the start of 2006 that it would probably be his last year.
juddy_Like
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He was always Rookie List worthy.
Rangy, 6.5 kid who can run all day. Fantastic athlete but not sure if he is actually a footballer.
Brad Smith on the other hand. Footballer, Footballer, Footballer
No way should we get rid of armstrong he's a great player and although he doesn't play like chris judd it doesn't mean he doesn't perform.
if he got a go a few years back when judd cousins and kerr dominated the midfield he might be a more developed player now. i think he is a contender for the brownlow in 2008
if he got a go a few years back when judd cousins and kerr dominated the midfield he might be a more developed player now. i think he is a contender for the brownlow in 2008
are you all stupid?
they recruited notte knowing he wouldn't play the first season. he's a skinny kid with great footballing ability and potential. they gave him 3 years to bulk up before they will even consider delisting him
stop speculating and judging people before you've actually achieved something
they recruited notte knowing he wouldn't play the first season. he's a skinny kid with great footballing ability and potential. they gave him 3 years to bulk up before they will even consider delisting him
stop speculating and judging people before you've actually achieved something
Only cause I think I think AA is only on a one year contract and Stevenson is on two. If they can both be delisted I am all for it honestly. But the first guy that should be delisted on our entire list is Thomson. If he plays a game for us everyone should be extremely worried.
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Huh?are you all stupid?
they recruited notte knowing he wouldn't play the first season. he's a skinny kid with great footballing ability and potential. they gave him 3 years to bulk up before they will even consider delisting him
stop speculating and judging people before you've actually achieved something
Who's delisting the what now?
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Righto. As I understand it we have 45 players currently on the list: 38 players on the senior list, 6 rookies (Davis, Wilkes, Sullivan, Wilson, Arrowsmith and Stevenson) and one veteran (Braun). By draft day we need to have 35 players on the senior list.
Braun's retiring but Wirra will replace him on the veterans list.
Davis and Wilkes are virtual certainties to get promoted. So we need to delist or trade a minimum of four players to have three picks in the draft. Ideally we'd want a fourth pick.
Graham, Armstrong and Cones are the three most likely delistees. Graham's struggled this season and with a bunch of key defenders on the books he's probably not going to last. I'd suggest a trade but I doubt anyone would take him. Armstrong and Cones are both with their second clubs. Cones is in a similar boat to Graham in that there's plenty of key forwards ahead of him. Armstrong - well you can't fault his endeavour but he's a depth player at best. He's survived the Bali bombings and got a premiership medal but he's probably playing his last few AFL games right now.
Still need to cut/trade one or two more. The options are:
McKinley - Our leading goalscorer this year, but his general fitness and defensive pressure (or lack thereof) is a worry and he's indicated he may want a trade home. If he's happy to stay and work on the defensive side of his game and his fitness then I'd love for him to stay. Otherwise, if he wants to go home let's make sure we get a good price for him. Early second-round pick at minimum I reckon.
Staker - He's had a few years now. If he's not getting picked now, in the situation we're in, then honestly he's better off trying his luck somewhere else. Mid second-round pick.
Fletcher - Contracted for next year but needs to reinvent himself because, frankly, a one-sided outside midfielder who consistently fails to hit a target on his preferred foot is of little use to us. Should be either persuaded to retire, or paid out.
Seaby - I'm really against this idea. He's a good club man who took less money than he'd get elsewhere so we could re-sign Judd (hah!) And he's our only real option as #1 ruck if Cox gets injured. But he's doing himself no favours hanging around at West Perth and waiting for Cox to get hit by a train. If we get the top pick and it becomes obvious we're taking Natanui then Seaby should ask for a trade. Would be worth a low first-rounder at least.
Thompson - Project player, would rather see him given another year but if we're forced to make room maybe we could cut him and pick him up on the rookie list.
Spangher - A great key defensive prospect, but very injury prone. Like Graham, is suffering from a glut of options down back. I'd hate to see him go, but if we need to make room and he wants to go back to Victoria then we should do what we can to get him to the club of his choice.
Braun's retiring but Wirra will replace him on the veterans list.
Davis and Wilkes are virtual certainties to get promoted. So we need to delist or trade a minimum of four players to have three picks in the draft. Ideally we'd want a fourth pick.
Graham, Armstrong and Cones are the three most likely delistees. Graham's struggled this season and with a bunch of key defenders on the books he's probably not going to last. I'd suggest a trade but I doubt anyone would take him. Armstrong and Cones are both with their second clubs. Cones is in a similar boat to Graham in that there's plenty of key forwards ahead of him. Armstrong - well you can't fault his endeavour but he's a depth player at best. He's survived the Bali bombings and got a premiership medal but he's probably playing his last few AFL games right now.
Still need to cut/trade one or two more. The options are:
McKinley - Our leading goalscorer this year, but his general fitness and defensive pressure (or lack thereof) is a worry and he's indicated he may want a trade home. If he's happy to stay and work on the defensive side of his game and his fitness then I'd love for him to stay. Otherwise, if he wants to go home let's make sure we get a good price for him. Early second-round pick at minimum I reckon.
Staker - He's had a few years now. If he's not getting picked now, in the situation we're in, then honestly he's better off trying his luck somewhere else. Mid second-round pick.
Fletcher - Contracted for next year but needs to reinvent himself because, frankly, a one-sided outside midfielder who consistently fails to hit a target on his preferred foot is of little use to us. Should be either persuaded to retire, or paid out.
Seaby - I'm really against this idea. He's a good club man who took less money than he'd get elsewhere so we could re-sign Judd (hah!) And he's our only real option as #1 ruck if Cox gets injured. But he's doing himself no favours hanging around at West Perth and waiting for Cox to get hit by a train. If we get the top pick and it becomes obvious we're taking Natanui then Seaby should ask for a trade. Would be worth a low first-rounder at least.
Thompson - Project player, would rather see him given another year but if we're forced to make room maybe we could cut him and pick him up on the rookie list.
Spangher - A great key defensive prospect, but very injury prone. Like Graham, is suffering from a glut of options down back. I'd hate to see him go, but if we need to make room and he wants to go back to Victoria then we should do what we can to get him to the club of his choice.
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What injuries has Spangher had, a few people have spoken about him being injury prone, have heard he is an immensely talkented player,
How does Thomson go in the WAFL, does he dominate or is he still to skinny as lad that has not come on as the WCE would have liked. am just asking as Essendons long term futrure in the D50 are very uncertain.
How does Thomson go in the WAFL, does he dominate or is he still to skinny as lad that has not come on as the WCE would have liked. am just asking as Essendons long term futrure in the D50 are very uncertain.
Best post ever.
I should know about Spangher, he's been my sponsored player that many times, but all I can remember is shoulder and groin issues. I'm not 100% sure that right but something like that. Maybe somebody can correct me.
As for Thomson, I'm no WAFL expert but from what is said on these boards he doesn't dominate the WAFL at all. In fact he spent his entire first season in the WAFL reserves and this year he isn't killing it although he's playing seniors and doing okay as a tagger.
I don't think he's a KPP but rather a huge tagger.
Hasn't come on really well but he was always a project player and I think he'll be given more time with us, maybe delisted and rookie listed though.
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Groin in his first year, shoulders recently. I think had a slight groin complaint a month or two ago as well. That's all I can recall, no hammys or knees.
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Am I the only one finding it tough to come up with the 6 names needed to delist. I have 3 set in stone
Graham
Cones
Thompson
Braun
Now we need 2 more. Armstrongs been real good in the past month in the midfield. Is it enough to save his career. Can we convince Fletcher to go or will he stay. Do we want him to stay. Alot has changed in the past month cos the players we had up for trade or delistment (Staker Seaby McKinley Army) are the players in form atm.
Regardless I think a trade or two has to be done to get our list down to 6 gone
Graham
Cones
Thompson
Braun
Now we need 2 more. Armstrongs been real good in the past month in the midfield. Is it enough to save his career. Can we convince Fletcher to go or will he stay. Do we want him to stay. Alot has changed in the past month cos the players we had up for trade or delistment (Staker Seaby McKinley Army) are the players in form atm.
Regardless I think a trade or two has to be done to get our list down to 6 gone
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Yeh but the thing with that is you dont want a coach coming out and bagging a player that he may try to shop around at the end of the year.
Thats bad bussiness, Thats like holden coming out and saying the new commodore is gutless and burns fuel and not real safe but hey we need to sell some so come and buy them.
I think he is showing faith in fletch NOW but come the end of season review Fletch will be given the ROJO option. We can trade you or we can Delist you or you can Retire but you wont be with the club next year, Whats it gonna be.
If he really loved WCE he would get traded and get us an extra pick or upgrade pick at least we get somthing out of it unlike Cuzz and ROJO.
Going to pay out Fletchers contract are we?
Silly post.
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Yeah it's tough to come up with the names. Army's still in the balance despite his good form, a couple of bad games in the last three weeks could still spell the end for him.
I don't believe they'll delist and pay out Fletcher. Staker, McKinley, Spangher are the most obvious trade possibilities - the first two if they ask to go, Spangher if we need to make room.
There will be some very tough decisions for our list managers at the end of the season, that's for sure.
Trading is only going to help the situation if we trade two players for one player (or something similar including draft picks). In previous years, guys like Rosa and Staker would go really well as a package deal to upgrade draft picks. But I think this year draft picks will be absolutely golden and teams won't want to let them go.
So it leaves us with some difficult choices. Particularly if Wirra and Fletcher play on.
So it leaves us with some difficult choices. Particularly if Wirra and Fletcher play on.
In the sunday times Fletchers manager said that Fletch is desperate to play next year and I'm pretty sure that you can't delist a player mid contract, unless he agrees to it (and usually gets his money too).
On the plus side I think Fletcher qualifies for the verterans list next season.
Turns 30 on August 30th 2009 and he's already in his 10th season.
On the plus side I think Fletcher qualifies for the verterans list next season.
Turns 30 on August 30th 2009 and he's already in his 10th season.
juddy_Like
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Maybe we can do a Nathan Lovett Murray type deal with Davis where he stays on the rookie list but is gureenteed a spot the following year when Fletch bows out.
Heck he can even have Brauny's # 10 jumper if he wants.
Heck he can even have Brauny's # 10 jumper if he wants.
I suspect we'll see an absolute minimum of changes with our list. Lots of youngsters on our list, so we're not in a position to greatly turn over our list atm.
Agree with Embers list. Davis to be kept on rookie list for another year. With less injuries next year *knocks on wood* he may struggle to get a regular game anyway, and a spot on the rookie list won't do him any harm.
That allows us to promote Wilkes & leaves 3 spots open for new draftees.
There's still question marks over McKinley staying, rumours are circulating that Staker is bound for Sydney, Armstrong has been playing like his career is on the line (no doubt it is) and nobody is sure where Seaby is at. So there's 4 names right there that could very realistically vacate the list.
Fletcher won't be delisted. His experience comes in handy, and with a very young squad as it is there's no rush to delist him.
Agree with Embers list. Davis to be kept on rookie list for another year. With less injuries next year *knocks on wood* he may struggle to get a regular game anyway, and a spot on the rookie list won't do him any harm.
That allows us to promote Wilkes & leaves 3 spots open for new draftees.
There's still question marks over McKinley staying, rumours are circulating that Staker is bound for Sydney, Armstrong has been playing like his career is on the line (no doubt it is) and nobody is sure where Seaby is at. So there's 4 names right there that could very realistically vacate the list.
Fletcher won't be delisted. His experience comes in handy, and with a very young squad as it is there's no rush to delist him.
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Graham- Delist
Thomson- Delist
Armstrong- Delist
Braun- Retire
Seaby- Trade
Hansen- Trade
Fletcher- Retire.
Easy thats 7
Armstrong: has been playing well lately but for me its to little to late.
Hansen: has been good as well but with a turning circle of the QE2 and Kennedy and Brown we have younger and better options available.
Seaby: Trade value would be high and we have developing Rucks in the back ground.
Fletcher: Retire(pay out) wont be able to get a spot in our starting 22 when we have everyone back from injury.
Thomson: Showed some promise but has since dropped off and probably the worst player on the team (with all due respect to James).
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These guys are no certainty to be traded.
Hansen re-signed recently. It would be strange for us to turn around and offload him.
Who are our "developing rucks"?
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I don't see why Staker would want to go to Sydney. He went out of his way to move Candice Falzon over to WA because she didn't want to be there anymore, so I don't know why he'd make that move.
You're either really connected or posting wild theories from 2 months ago.
Not likely, very highly rated by the club.
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