One of the guys I go to Footy with was an amateur league umpire.
He often points out how poorly positioned the AFL umpires are. All four essentially looking at the same thing.
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He often points out how poorly positioned the AFL umpires are. All four essentially looking at the same thing.
Dirty Bird
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I'm involved in the amateur league. And the SECOND that they go a 3 umpire system, the coaches are even like, idk how to judge you as you haven't done it before.
So I wouldn't take anything from an Amateur league umpire when it comes to positioning in the AFL..............Other than the 4th quarter of that Adelaide-Melbourne game ~8 years ago when 2 umpires (including the emergency) got injured and they actually had to run with 2 umpires.
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No way that’s an 8 week suspension, either 4 or 5 is my guess .
Also , subconsciously, Wonder if they will take finals into consideration?
Also , subconsciously, Wonder if they will take finals into consideration?
Honestly I wish this were true but there was definitely some Port supporters booing him off. I can't for the life of me understand why.I'm finding it hard to believe that any supporters - even Port supporters- would boo an injured player like that. My theory, albeit I wasn't there - is it was Crows supporters booing the hit / Houston?
The same kind of morons on each side that vilify Betts and Rioli.
Nowhere near as many as made out on here though and I can definitely say in my section at the top of the Eastern stand surrounded my long term 11 game members I didn't hear anyone near me boo and saw the majority clapping.
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SugarShane
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Yeah it's pretty worrying tbh to not have any update.
We never sack coaches in contract. Only Cornes and Sando
Since you’re here, what’s your thought on the penalty, if any ?
It's already been pointed out to you, your whole board celebrated the injury and laughed saying he deserved it.
How does that make you think that the rabble at the ground are any better?
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He said power fans. He never mentioned the players. Comprehension isn't strong down at alberton.
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Never?
We have had 9 full time permanent coaches - Cornes, Shaw, Blight, Ayres, Craig, Sando, Walsh, Pyke, Nicks.
One passed away and one is the current coach. So out of 7 coaches we have sacked 2 of them mid contract.
*We also got rid of Pyke. That was a classic you can't fire me if I quit situations.
That Makes it 4 out of 7 of our clubs coaches we got rid of with years left on their contract.
SugarShane
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Did they show it during the game? Should be able to snip it out if they did (with a rough idea of when).
Nah they didn't. Lots going on at the time so.didnt cut to a replay
That’s what I said. Only Cornes and Sando were sacked
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I guess the issue is why have 4 umpires when they are all watching the same thing.
All it does is dilute the umpire talent base and differing options/decisions in the game.
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I think they will but not in the usual way. Once they work out they can't engineer a situation where he's at least available for a grand final, they'll add extra weeks on to be seen as being tough.
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I agree the ban should be very long.
I'm also enthusiastic about the send off rule. This hit deserved it. No conversation needed on that as Houston did not deserve to be included in the game from that moment on. He had lost his sportsmanship right to be on the field.
But it's the consequence of sending a player off which solves many problems and creates instant penalty to the offending team.
Firstly, they play a man down which penalises the team immediately. This would result in less of this dangerous behaviours as teammates and coaches won't permit this to be part of a clubs MO.
The next reason which makes the send off rule work is it will reduce the retaliation of the victim team (like us last night). I believe, had Houston been sent off and Port were playing with 17, we would have gotten over the incident better and worked differently (better) to drive home our advantage. It's the lack of excessive retaliation that returns the football back to football and a sporting contest. The AFL take the mellee seriously with fines etc as it's a poor look for the game. The current rules of leaving the offending player on the field heightens tensions. Get him off and get the game back on, not the fights.
Another advantage of the send off rule is that it displays genuine effort by the AFL to protect players from malicious injury. The lawyers might have an opinion but a substantial change in rules does certainly show intent to provide player safety. In a worse case scenario, say, Rankine never plays again and is unable to ever work due to this injury, the AFL would be expecting some legal liability suit. Doing nothing more than slightly bigger bans won't be enough.
Lastly, although there's a long list of send off rule advantages, I'll finish with this one.
What we saw last night from the crowd towards an injured Izak Rankine is socially indecent and unacceptable. I know we might say it was the typical Port fans doing what they do, but this doesn't address how all fans would react in similar circumstances.
It was our retaliation which fired them up, it was how we responded that turned the stadium into a cauldron. I say that if Dan Houston had been sent off and our response was more measured accordingly, being a player down would place the fan anger and vitriol into the right place. At the guilty player for damaging his teams chances there and then. Instant karma. Instant justice. Instant penalty.
Finally, I expect the traditionalists will come back at me with the usual "not how it was when I were young" or the even more predictable "we're turning footy into netball". My point is that a send off rule IMPROVES the sporting spectacle. It IMPROVES player safety. And it IMPROVES just and proper outcomes instantly.
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Missing brain cells is more apt.
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What does being a really good person (which I doubt) have to do with anything? Should someone who is a prick get more weeks for the same act?
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Yeah eight to me has a swinging elbow in it, not what Houston did. There is little chance they go under 4 but Houston is unlikely to get to play another match this year given Port have three matches left
In this instance, why would Houston be sent off?
None of the 4 umpires thought he did anything wrong. No free against him.
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Some people in here saying fog got sucked in. The frees against him were total bullshit. The umps got sucked in. That keane 'bump' on butters, was a dive by butters. The rioli free against fog, another dive. Fog had his hand on riolis jumper and fog was pulled harder by his jumper and the momentum moved to rioli.
We should have been far more aggressive after the hit on rankine tbh.
We should have been far more aggressive after the hit on rankine tbh.
Probably already views him as a traitor. Even though his club is pushing him out.
