Rate My Team (Part II)

[supercoachgun]

Just checked the leagues, 27 different ones.

Which one is the league?

yeah its not an official big footy league.. haha
join 419110. and anyone else who wants to join is welcome to
preferably averaging about 2100+, your team looks good enough for that sort of avergae haha

 

[Pudd]

Hey guys.. There haven't been any teams up here for a while for me to comment on.. But will do once some come up..

If anyone would like to comment on my line-up so far it would be greatly appreciated..

Here goes: -

BACKS

Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Grimes, A Otten, Brodie Smith
SUBS - Puopolo, Toy, Duigan

MIDS

Swan, J Selwood, Murphy, Sherman, D Swallow, Mzungu
SUBS - Harris, Heppell, Callinan

RUCKS

Sandilands, Cox
SUBS - Z Smith, Derickx

FORWARDS

Chapman, Riewoldt, Franklin, Zaharakis, Knights, Krakouer, C Richardson
SUBS - Gamble, Matera, I Smith

Feedback would be great..

 

[NT.Thunder]

Broughton actually averaged closer to 100ppg last year

Granted Higgins averaged less, but does have the potential to average 90 -95ppg

Selwood actually averaged around 177ppg and I wouldnt expect any improvement on that with GAJ gone.

And then you need to find another rookie back, which he doesnt have who will average 60+ to break even.

The point your missing is that he will require an extra trade throughout the year with your methodolgy and if you can tell me what value an extra trade is throughout the year i'll be suitably impressed.

I can see your not 1 to listen, as I imagine you have been playing this for years and come with years of advice to our newbies.

I apologise now for my ridiculous input and I pray to god that my QANTAS plane isnt delayed any further.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Hey guys.. There haven't been any teams up here for a while for me to comment on.. But will do once some come up..

If anyone would like to comment on my line-up so far it would be greatly appreciated..

Here goes: -

BACKS

Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Grimes, A Otten, Brodie Smith
SUBS - Puopolo, Toy, Duigan

MIDS

Swan, J Selwood, Murphy, Sherman, D Swallow, Mzungu
SUBS - Harris, Heppell, Callinan

RUCKS

Sandilands, Cox
SUBS - Z Smith, Derickx

FORWARDS

Chapman, Riewoldt, Franklin, Zaharakis, Knights, Krakouer, C Richardson
SUBS - Gamble, Matera, I Smith

Feedback would be great..

Sherman and Knights would be my only concern.

Sherman is interesting yet IMO hasnt cemented a spot in the Dogs lilne up YET.

Knights is carrying an injury, again, but is definately value if fit.

Nice team all the same.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

yeah its not an official big footy league.. haha
join 419110. and anyone else who wants to join is welcome to
preferably averaging about 2100+, your team looks good enough for that sort of avergae haha

Alright I'll give it a go.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Broughton actually averaged closer to 100ppg last year

Granted Higgins averaged less, but does have the potential to average 90 -95ppg

Selwood actually averaged around 177ppg and I wouldnt expect any improvement on that with GAJ gone.

And then you need to find another rookie back, which he doesnt have who will average 60+ to break even.

The point your missing is that he will require an extra trade throughout the year with your methodolgy and if you can tell me what value an extra trade is throughout the year i'll be suitably impressed.

I can see your not 1 to listen, as I imagine you have been playing this for years and come with years of advice to our newbies.

I apologise now for my ridiculous input and I pray to god that my QANTAS plane isnt delayed any further.

All i ask for is a logical argument.

You just invented figures to support it and now you're talking about extra trades. he will more than likely have to trade Higgins out anyway, whether that be through injury or because he isn't able to average the 95-100 that a player of his price should be aiming for

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Selwood actually averaged around 177ppg and I wouldnt expect any improvement on that with GAJ gone.

Also on the Selwood point.

In 2010 Ablett missed Round 6 - Selwood went on to score 140 SC points.

In 2009 Ablett missed Round 7 and 8 - Selwood scored 130 and 140 SC points respectively

He also missed Round 15 of that year - Selwood missed out on the points scoring only 80 SC

So when Ablett didn't play Selwood managed to amass 490 points in four games with an average of 122.5.

if Ablett played less last year, Selwood would have been a lock!!

 

[MightyMark]

About $194,000 worth of difference



And then you go from having 15 keepers to 14 keepers requiring an extra trade.

So Broughton (95ppg) & Higgins (95ppg) 190 total

to Rookie (50ppg) & Selwood (120ppg) 170 total + less initial keepers + extra trade

Depends on whether you see Higgins as a keeper. If you are buying him with the intention of upgrading him later on, then there isn't much difference. The scoring potential of Broughton and Higgins is higher than that of a Rookie and Selwood, but the risk of having both Broughton and Higgins is very high, considering niether has completed a full season recently. Like I said, you cannot loose either way, if you want to keep 5 premiums (or close enough) in your backline and have 2 mid priced players (with up side) in your midfiled then go for it.
It's a big risk to go into the season hoping that both Kennedy and Higgins will become keepers, 1 would be a fair gamble, but banking on both is a big risk.

For arguments sake, how about R. Tarrant/R. Shaw/Adcock and Selwood over Broughton and Higgins. Both offer considerable risk with injury, one with a super premium player and an up and coming player the other a premium and a mid priced player.

 

[Baker_for_PM]

Backs: Goddard,Gibbs,Enright,Grimes,Krakouer,Astbury,Otten
Subs: Puopolo,Toy,Duigan

Mids: Swan,Judd,Montanga,Kennedy J (swans),Swallow, Harris
Subs: Polec,Atley,Liberatore

Rucks: Sandilands,Jolly
Subs: Smith,Derickx

Fowds: Riewoldt,Pavlich,Brown,S Johnson,Higgins,Krakouer,Mzunga
Subs:Matera,Michie,Richardson

Pretty happy with most of my team. Still really have no idea about the subs gone with what ive seen in the nab cup so far, the middle priced players in the back and fowds is my main issue i think. Any help would be appreciate. also what do people think of hannaberry going to score well this year?

 

[MightyMark]

Backs: Goddard,Gibbs,Enright,Grimes,Krakouer,Astbury,Otten
Subs: Puopolo,Toy,Duigan

Mids: Swan,Judd,Montanga,Kennedy J (swans),Swallow, Harris
Subs: Polec,Atley,Liberatore

Rucks: Sandilands,Jolly
Subs: Smith,Derickx

Fowds: Riewoldt,Pavlich,Brown,S Johnson,Higgins,Krakouer,Mzunga
Subs:Matera,Michie,Richardson

Pretty happy with most of my team. Still really have no idea about the subs gone with what ive seen in the nab cup so far, the middle priced players in the back and fowds is my main issue i think. Any help would be appreciate. also what do people think of hannaberry going to score well this year?

Not a bad line up, a few risky choices in your forward line. Not sure how Brown will go this year, but doubtful he will play the whole season. Higgins could do anything, but if your going to put your faith in him make sure the rest of your forwards are reliable (i.e. trade Brown).

This is just my opinion, but im also not convince that Pavlich or SJ will have great years supercoach wise (i.e. at best they will retain last year’s averages). I think that Pav is past is best (i'm more than happy to be proven wrong here), and SJ has never really been a supercoach player, always shows flashes of brilliance but can never back it up.

If I were you I would definitely try and get Chapman into your forward line, ditch Brown and depending on cash flow straight swap him for Chappy or downgrade someone else (my choice would be Pav to Rioli or SJ to Sylvia).

 

[celtic67]

Could you SC gurus please give me quick take on my team. i've gone for the 4-4-2-4 premium approach and relying on the youngsters to make some $$$ for me to upgrade most of them by season's end. Do you think this side is likely score to early wins? Thanks lads.

Backs:
Goddard Gibbs Deledio Grimes A. Otten Heppel Hibberd (Toy, Duigan, Puopolo)

Mids:
Swan Judd Hodge Selwood Swallow(GC) Gaff (Atley, Polec, Conca)

Rucks:
Sandilands Jolly (Campbell, Derickx)

Forwards:
N. Riewoldt Franklin B. Harvey Pavlich Yarran Mzungu Richardson (Matera, Callinan, I Smith)

 

[syl]

Could you SC gurus please give me quick take on my team. i've gone for the 4-4-2-4 premium approach and relying on the youngsters to make some $$$ for me to upgrade most of them by season's end. Do you think this side is likely score to early wins? Thanks lads.

Backs:
Goddard Gibbs Deledio Grimes A. Otten Heppel Hibberd (Toy, Duigan, Puopolo)

Mids:
Swan Judd Hodge Selwood Swallow(GC) Gaff (Atley, Polec, Conca)

Rucks:
Sandilands Jolly (Campbell, Derickx)

Forwards:
N. Riewoldt Franklin B. Harvey Pavlich Yarran Mzungu Richardson (Matera, Callinan, I Smith)

Should score fine at the start. You should get an MPP Back/Mid in to your midfield to take advantage of the dual position players you have to cover you in byes.

Forward line is the weakest. Not a big fan of Pav this year and never a fan of Yarran.

 

[MightyMark]

Could you SC gurus please give me quick take on my team. i've gone for the 4-4-2-4 premium approach and relying on the youngsters to make some $$$ for me to upgrade most of them by season's end. Do you think this side is likely score to early wins? Thanks lads.

Backs:
Goddard Gibbs Deledio Grimes A. Otten Heppel Hibberd (Toy, Duigan, Puopolo)

Mids:
Swan Judd Hodge Selwood Swallow(GC) Gaff (Atley, Polec, Conca)

Rucks:
Sandilands Jolly (Campbell, Derickx)

Forwards:
N. Riewoldt Franklin B. Harvey Pavlich Yarran Mzungu Richardson (Matera, Callinan, I Smith)

Not a bad team, just need to move some players around. Put Heppel or Hibberd in the middle to give you MPP options for Goddard, Gibbs and Deledio. Take Atly out and put someone like Peter Faulks, Nick Lower or Bernie Smith in your backline (just some suggestions off the top of my head).
I would also put Smith, Mzunghu or Callinan in your mids for MPP options with Harvey and Pavlich. Take out Conca and put Darling, S. Meckernan, Howe or even Gamble if you have a little extra cash.

Probably wouldn't risk Yarran. He looks likely to play as a back, which could go either way with him. If you want to take the risk thats fine, but I would look elsewhere. If you have the cash upgrade him, otherwise downgrade him to someone like Gamble who looks to have similar scoring potential but at half the price.

Finally, I think every team should have Chappy, if you can find a way to upgrade Pav to Chappy, do it. I think Pav is beyond his best (will still go ok, just not great) and that Chappy should retain his form from last year.

EDIT: I agree with Syl, as my response would indicate. Was writing up my response when he posted.

 

[pattyandjackie]

hey guys, id love someone to point out a few inevitable shortcomings of my first attempt at a team. thanks!
DEF: Goddard, Deledio, Broughton, Gilbert, Otten, Heppell, Toy (Duigan, Batchelor, Paupolo)
MID: Swan, Judd, Murphy, Sewell, Houli, D Swallow (Mzungu, Atley, Irons)
RUCK: Jolly, Warnock (Frazer, Z Smith)
FWD: Chapman, Riewoldt, Riewoldt, Grundy, Yarran, T Walker, Krakouer (C Richardson, McKernan, Matera)

Thanks guys.

 

[Hot Tiges]

hey guys, id love someone to point out a few inevitable shortcomings of my first attempt at a team. thanks!
DEF: Goddard, Deledio, Broughton, Gilbert, Otten, Heppell, Toy (Duigan, Batchelor, Paupolo)
MID: Swan, Judd, Murphy, Sewell, Houli, D Swallow (Mzungu, Atley, Irons)
RUCK: Jolly, Warnock (Frazer, Z Smith)
FWD: Chapman, Riewoldt, Riewoldt, Grundy, Yarran, T Walker, Krakouer (C Richardson, McKernan, Matera)

Thanks guys.

Ok, mate.
DEF - Would move Gilbert to someone a bit cheaper but will probably avg more (Hurn, Grimes, Fisher, Duffield etc) due to his move to the fwd line. MIDS - Looks good. Looked at Sewell myself but someone said that he maybe used as a run with player so scoring maybe effected. Hope Houli goes well this year. Could be a smoky of a pick.
RUCKS - You'll miss the Sandilands points. Not sure how Warnock will score if he plays all games. Not a fan of 2 GC ruck benches.
FWDS - Creative. Love JRoo, hopefully he can go a step better. Grundy is an interesting pick. Yarran, anything could happen., Walker I don't think will avg alot.

Unique looking side with a few minor adjustments needed. good luck.

 

[MightyMark]

hey guys, id love someone to point out a few inevitable shortcomings of my first attempt at a team. thanks!
DEF: Goddard, Deledio, Broughton, Gilbert, Otten, Heppell, Toy (Duigan, Batchelor, Paupolo)
MID: Swan, Judd, Murphy, Sewell, Houli, D Swallow (Mzungu, Atley, Irons)
RUCK: Jolly, Warnock (Frazer, Z Smith)
FWD: Chapman, Riewoldt, Riewoldt, Grundy, Yarran, T Walker, Krakouer (C Richardson, McKernan, Matera)

Thanks guys.

Agree with everything Hot tiges said.

Put Heppel in the middle for MPP options, take out Atly or Irons.
Only have one of either Judd or Murphy. Having 2 premiums in the same area will affect your team too much come Carltons byes. The general rule is don’t have more than 1 premium from the same team in the same position, and don’t have more than 2 premiums from the same team across your field, as you are just asking for a headache when the byes kick in.
I think there are better options than Sewell and Houli, as the risk vs reward isn’t very high with either. Houli has potential but at 324K I don’t think it is worth it, as he will not become a keeper IMO. If you want a project player get higgins or Kennedy (swans), as they seem to be the rage atm.

Would change Warnock for a premium ruckman like Cox, Mummy or Jolly. At 388k Jolly is the best value. You should always start the season with 2 good ruckman and just leave them. Warnock is OK, but is not a top ruckman.

Grundy, Yarran and Walker need to be changed. If you want to put your faith in one, put it in Walker as he looks as though he could be a quality player (prob not this year though). Grundy won’t be that much better than last year, and Yarran playing out of the backline doesn’t have me convinced. Sylvia, Dangerfield, and Gamble would be a better start. But there are other options.

 

[MightyMark]

Ok, mate.
DEF - Would move Gilbert to someone a bit cheaper but will probably avg more (Hurn, Grimes, Fisher, Duffield etc) due to his move to the fwd line. MIDS - Looks good. Looked at Sewell myself but someone said that he maybe used as a run with player so scoring maybe effected. Hope Houli goes well this year. Could be a smoky of a pick.
RUCKS - You'll miss the Sandilands points. Not sure how Warnock will score if he plays all games. Not a fan of 2 GC ruck benches.
FWDS - Creative. Love JRoo, hopefully he can go a step better. Grundy is an interesting pick. Yarran, anything could happen., Walker I don't think will avg alot.

Unique looking side with a few minor adjustments needed. good luck.

Your the second person thats beaten me to the reply. I get half way through writing it and someone else posts, its just not my night

 

[woodhousetom]

Hey guys, hoping for some feedback on my team, trying to be a bit more prepared this year, as previous years I have been a bit behind on some major trades.
DEF
Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Otten, Heppell, K Hunt, Toy, Duigan, Puopolo
Mids
Swan, Judd, Hodge, Bartel, Cotchin, D Swallow, D Harris, M Wallis, I Smith
Rucks
Sandilands, Warnock, Cordy, M Bailey
FWDS
Chapman, Roo, Rioli, Sylvia, Krakour, C Richardson, Mzungu, Petrie, B Matera, Darling

 

[Hot Tiges]

Your the second person thats beaten me to the reply. I get half way through writing it and someone else posts, its just not my night

Usually I cop that!

Penny for your thoughts..

Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Otten, Heppel (Duigan, Populopo, Toy)

Swan, Judd, Selwood, Swallow, Polec, Harris (Mzungu, Atley, Hibberd)

Sandi, Jolly (Smith, Dericx)

Chapman, N Riewoldt, Green, Rioli, Dangerfield, Krakouer, Richardson (Matera, Prestia, Callian)

Been flicking Broughton and Dangerfield to either Malceski/Gilbee/Duffield or basically someone who plays most games and Higgins/Morton. Still can't get it right.

 

[Hot Tiges]

Hey guys, hoping for some feedback on my team, trying to be a bit more prepared this year, as previous years I have been a bit behind on some major trades.
DEF
Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Otten, Heppell, K Hunt, Toy, Duigan, Puopolo
Mids
Swan, Judd, Hodge, Bartel, Cotchin, D Swallow, D Harris, M Wallis, I Smith
Rucks
Sandilands, Warnock, Cordy, M Bailey
FWDS
Chapman, Roo, Rioli, Sylvia, Krakour, C Richardson, Mzungu, Petrie, B Matera, Darling

A few things. Wait till the end of the NAB challenge to see K Hunts scores. By all reports he's doing pretty well. Probably wouldn't pick Cotch. Could downgrade him to a Polec/Gaff then upgrade Warnock. Fwds look pretty good.

 

[pattyandjackie]

thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback.
Call me naive, but wouldn't it be a possibly worthwhile risk to go against someone like Sandilands, in the event that he gets injured and all my fellow coaches who have him lose out while I don't?

I suppose I am just a typical Carlton supporter liking what I see out of Warnock.

 

[MightyMark]

Usually I cop that!

Penny for your thoughts..

Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Broughton, Otten, Heppel (Duigan, Populopo, Toy)

Swan, Judd, Selwood, Swallow, Polec, Harris (Mzungu, Atley, Hibberd)

Sandi, Jolly (Smith, Dericx)

Chapman, N Riewoldt, Green, Rioli, Dangerfield, Krakouer, Richardson (Matera, Prestia, Callian)

Been flicking Broughton and Dangerfield to either Malceski/Gilbee/Duffield or basically someone who plays most games and Higgins/Morton. Still can't get it right.

If I was going to swap Broughton it would be for Gilbee, his ceiling his higher than Duffield, and usually more consistent. I would take Broughton over both, but he has nasty injury cloud hanging over his head, and he only managed 15 games last year. I think you should flip a coin for that one.

Personally I like the look of Dangerfield, I think this year he could achieve what he seems to promise, so I would keep him over Higgins or Morton. I think at Higgins best he will average high 90’s but if Dangerfield pushes into the midfield he could average over 100.

Overall your team looks pretty solid though, a good mixture of premiums and rookies, with a few risks ( good risks) thrown in. I like it.

 

[Hot Tiges]

If I was going to swap Broughton it would be for Gilbee, his ceiling his higher than Duffield, and usually more consistent. I would take Broughton over both, but he has nasty injury cloud hanging over his head, and he only managed 15 games last year. I think you should flip a coin for that one.

Personally I like the look of Dangerfield, I think this year he could achieve what he seems to promise, so I would keep him over Higgins or Morton. I think at Higgins best he will average high 90’s but if Dangerfield pushes into the midfield he could average over 100.

Overall your team looks pretty solid though, a good mixture of premiums and rookies, with a few risks ( good risks) thrown in. I like it.

Had Gilbee last year and he annoyed me. Had a few issues last year which seemed to play out onto the field. Duffield is inconsistent. 90avg is a bit kind to him. Saw the 22 games played and got a bit excited. For round 22 last year I could of have had him or James Kelly. So glad I picked kelly lol. Always been a fan of Broughton. Seems to get little annoying ankle or hamstring injuries. Dangerfield is an interesting. I'd be happy if he avg 85-90 as I'm playing as a FWD. Never seen anyone more 'Riccuito' like in his stints in the midfield last year and doesn't seem to have the niggles the Higgins can attract. Morton was mentioned as a unique. Might not get much midfield time this year with a few additions to midfield. Pretty happy with my side if I can make my mind up lol.

 

[Hot Tiges]

thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback.
Call me naive, but wouldn't it be a possibly worthwhile risk to go against someone like Sandilands, in the event that he gets injured and all my fellow coaches who have him lose out while I don't?

I suppose I am just a typical Carlton supporter liking what I see out of Warnock.

You could. Just think that you would miss a few big matches when he rests fwd and kicks a few. You'd win out when Freo has the bye. That's it though. Warnock's a good selection, not sure how high he can score. Check NAB scores in the last week. Always good to have a few rough teams aside..

 

[MightyMark]

Had Gilbee last year and he annoyed me. Had a few issues last year which seemed to play out onto the field. Duffield is inconsistent. 90avg is a bit kind to him. Saw the 22 games played and got a bit excited. For round 22 last year I could of have had him or James Kelly. So glad I picked kelly lol. Always been a fan of Broughton. Seems to get little annoying ankle or hamstring injuries. Dangerfield is an interesting. I'd be happy if he avg 85-90 as I'm playing as a FWD. Never seen anyone more 'Riccuito' like in his stints in the midfield last year and doesn't seem to have the niggles the Higgins can attract. Morton was mentioned as a unique. Might not get much midfield time this year with a few additions to midfield. Pretty happy with my side if I can make my mind up lol.

Yeah thats always the problem, too much to choose from. Had Gilbee last year as well, went well at the start, but fell off mid way through and Murphy took over his role. IF he can maintain his Quarter Back role with the doggies through out the year he should be good value.
Love the way Dangerfield plays, Riccuito was my favourite player, so maybe that has something to do with it . Watching his performances through the midfield in the pre season has me thinking that it may be a more permanent move.
Always a few break out stars every year, and for me Dangerfield, Sylvia and Kennedy are leading the pack. Andy Otten is a little back, and barring any LTI's, R. Tarrant could suprise a few as well. IMO.