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Geelong's most valuable player of 2015Hardie is the most discussed Geelong player ( who hasnt played a senior game ) since Dean Gore
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Geelong's most valuable player of 2015Hardie is the most discussed Geelong player ( who hasnt played a senior game ) since Dean Gore
As is their right. In the end, every player on the list can't be given the same opportunities, though. So the M.C. is charged with the responsibility of deciding who gets a shot and how much latitude they are given to develop at the level, based on what they perceive their ceiling to be.Some were saying Mannagh, Neale and Clohesy weren't up to it on VFL form not so long ago.
Interesting comparison. Gore went to S.A. after the Cats (the reverse of Hardie's story) and still couldn't snare a senior game with the Craas before being delisted.Hardie is the most discussed Geelong player ( who hasnt played a senior game ) since Dean Gore
I'm firmly with Finknottle. I highly suspect those that don't rate Hardie haven't seen him play this year. He was clearly better than Bruhn last weekend. I'm not arguing that Hardie should've been selected ahead of Bruhn this week (purely due to age profile), but he definitely should have been selected ahead of Parfitt last week.
Maybe he won't be up to AFL level if he gets a go, but we know for certain that Parfitt isn't AFL level. If we're given games to guys like Parfitt and Bews, then Hardie certainly deserves his chance.
Having witnessed Billy Goggin as my favourite player before Turner then Ablett snr. I agree Billy's was a beauty.
BUT.
Goal 4 in this package is just freakish, ahead of its time, and huge degree of difficulty.
If it was any other player, you select any one of these goals, but this master made it look simple.
Spot-on.Is it the throw-in goal?
If so, my favourite of all time; saw it live too.
I’d be interested to see him trial in some key position spots.Hes probably the second best contested mark on the list and decent by foot. Massive tank.
Slow as treacle though and I think maybe the gym program has added mass and slowed him down further because he's definitely worse this year.
If he's this slow then I would say he's a failure in the midfield but you keep adding mass to that 194cm frame then you could end up with a really good key or intercept defender or even a KPF who get involves at ground level.
Spot-on.
Thanks Kobe Gryant, well placed loyalty is a good thing. I hope you have someone in your life who rates you.Ladies & Gentleman, don't stop looking until you find yourselves a partner who rates you like Finknottle does Mitch Hardie.
Divorce rates would plummet across the country.
this is kinda sad. Proud of hating a player for years before he started playing poorly, like do you want us to congratulate you for that?As for BP. I only comment on his ability, and lately sit here with a smug face knowing I was ahead of the curve and got the call right years before the rest caught on. Which is relevant given you literally just said this about Hardie "Nobody's questioned his character, effort, or anything out of line.". Nor have I.
Nothing wrong with being loyal to Parfitt. I have supported him in previous years but after promising early years he stopped improving and actually regressed. I've been watching his VFL games, apart from the good game 2 weeks ago he has been mediocre at best. He has lost the speed he had and that includes the speed of his decision making.Parf overall is a better player than Mannagh, although not currently in form. People forget his really good games, and there were plenty. Every time he looked to be on the verge of big things- injury.
Recent issues, not sure what's happened, but playing VFL most of the season does not help
Not quite in Donald Trump's league KG but you are a bit loose with your facts. Hardie (DOB 05-Sep-1997) is still 26 as is Mannagh (DOB 06-Aug-1997). If age is such a handicap then Mannagh should be in your firing line along with the other 14 players on the AFL list who are older than both of them. And James Podsiadly, what were they thinking!He's a 27 year old mid-season draft pick who can't get a game.
Sometimes a spade is just a spade, and you don't need to know every nitty gritty detail to understand what's going on.
Nobody's questioned his character, effort, or anything out of line. They've just said it's highly likely VFL is his ceiling, and that's a reasonable opinion off the evidence we have.
I also seem to remember you branding Neale a "VFL standard forward" to go with your continuous Parfitt bashing.
You can't keep picking and choosing the standard you hold others to compared with yourself.
Stewart. Hawkins was (RIP brother). Danger and Zuth would be pretty close with Knevitt. I guess second is a stretch but I would have him top 4.I’d be interested to see him trial in some key position spots.
Who do you have as the other best contested marks at the club?
Hawkins, Stewart, Henry, Rohan, Jezza, Danger, Guthrie, Neale, are a few I can think of are much better marks than Knevitt.
Pound for pound, Zuthrie and Stengle are Geelong's best contested marks.Stewart. Hawkins was (RIP brother). Danger and Zuth would be pretty close with Knevitt. I guess second is a stretch but I would have him top 4.
I think Henry pinches off intercepts more than contest and i would trust Knevitt in one on ones more. Neale is getting better at contested making but I wouldn't call it a strength yet. Jez doesn't really play that way. SDK has flashes of brilliance but drops a few. Stengle very good for his size but you don't want to be relying on that.
Pound for pound, Zuthrie and Stengle are Geelong's best contested marks.
Point for pound. They ain't kpd size and you can't rely on it as a structure. Zuthries intercept work is getting towards early Stewart levels thoughPound for pound, Zuthrie and Stengle are Geelong's best contested marks.
Jack Henry is underrated I think. He often gets jobs on taller forwards and apart from occasional brain fades he is pretty solid. The Geelong backline has had a tough year with our midfield woes. Not just opposing midfields hammering the ball in but often getting a lot of good looks.This year:
Henry, Zuthrie: 18
Stewart, J-Kol: 17
And to be frank, I think I get a rough ride on here for my views on him. They haven't waivered for years. He'd have a couple good games and I'd get tagged to show I was wrong, as would 1-2 others.this is kinda sad. Proud of hating a player for years before he started playing poorly, like do you want us to congratulate you for that?
Genuinely, you're a good poster with good insights and there are plenty of other threads/comments where I fully back your opinion but this is just not it.
Luv the fact that not only is he brushing of the Pies defenders but also Robert Scott as well.... LOLa vulgar display of power.
Luv the fact that not only is he brushing of the Pies defenders but also Robert Scott as well.... LOL
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