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Review Rd 21 Cats stone Crows by 5 points
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Most of us are far less competent at our jobs than afl umpires. Most of us just aren’t as heavily scrutinised in our jobs as afl umpires.
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That would be an absolute disaster. It is sad to say but Hawk cannot play in a final.
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The problem with Hawkins is total lack of defensive pressure. I think swapping out Ollie Henry for Rohan is the answer.
Agree. If they play 3 marking fowards thats probably the 3 i go for. But if they are intent on playing four then i dont see why a fit hawkins wouldnt be substitutable for henry. Henry also offers nothing defensively.
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He has opened up the forward line by his play so more others are getting the goals, eg Cameron, TS, Close.
Hawkins offers less then 7 possesions, 1 goal, 2 marks? Hawkins is terrible defensively but so is henry.
Yes. He'd get his 7 touches and a goal, as well as F50 ruckwork that allows Blics and Stanley to set up behind the ball for those panicky dump kicks out of defence if the oppo win the footy.
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And/or if Cameron could manage to get a free kick occassionally
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Have you watched how much better the forward line functions since Hawk dropped out?
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If it was still 2022 that would be great.
In 2024 it is sure fire recipe for a 7 goal loss.
Henry has potential i agree. But not in the role he is playing. And they wont change that role this year.
And while time has slowed down hawkins we also dont know if niggling injuries were also a major contributor to his poor form from round 4 onwards.
When he would of been fresh at the start of the year hawkins kicked 9 goals in his first 3 games. That early year form would be awfully handy in the finals.
could that be because they put cameron back in the foward line and rohan came back in to give them defensive pressure both on the ground and in the air? Mannagh has also helped.
Neale has also improved.
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It would, for sure.
I'm just not confident he can reproduce that form though. It was a microburst that very quickly dried up......
He can't run, and can barely move..... I fear he'd stagnate the forward line and make it far more predictable than it is now, which would make it far easier for opposition defenders.
I just dont know either. What was the cause of his form from round 4 onwards. Simply time or both time and niggling issues. And if the latter, have those niggling issues eased off with a rest? Only the club will know.
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As always, the club knows much more than us. We're speculating through binoculars.
But, for mine, there was a look of inevitable decline in Hawkins this year. We all know it's coming, and to me it looks like its hit harder and faster than even we expected.
His niggles wouldn't have helped, for sure, but to me he suddenly looked too old.
I hope I'm wrong, I love the big fella, and would love to see him have one last, strong finals campaign, but I fear the tank is empty and he has no more to give.
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No - it is because Hawk dropping out cleared some room for Neale to function better and our small forwards have space to create or win the ball at neales feet.
Cameron and Rohan are not really doing anything different.
Neale and hawk cannot play together.
It is one or the other.
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The tricky thing with Hawkins is you have to keep him motivated incase Neale goes down...
but also prepared to have the conversation that he won't be included
Deep down he probably knows, his whole journey has been serendipitous in that Mooney made way for him
but also prepared to have the conversation that he won't be included
Deep down he probably knows, his whole journey has been serendipitous in that Mooney made way for him
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Hawk is a proud guy but he is also the ultimate team/club man. I think he realises what we all see.
He will get a game at home against WC to finish up, and we will get to give him the send off he absolutely deserves.
And then we should revert to our current forward set up in the finals.
And Hawk will accept it with grace.
Agree with most of that. I think the Adelaide win was encouraging. The Crows are capable of playing good footy. Beat the Lions Rd 17, and recently took care of the Saints. I think they turned up to play against us, and I think we could improve massively on that performance. Except, like every other team this season, we are bloody inconsistent. It’s a raffle this year. Every couple of weeks the premiership favored teams swap out.
The only inform team Freo have played in the past month is the Hawks and they got beat. I want Freo to thrash an out of form Essendon today, so they come to us fresh from a lot of soft wins.
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Thats what I expect too but is there a world where he is required in finals should injury strike?
At that stage we are probably cactus anyway
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Play like we did yesterday and we are indeed cactus. We can't rely on the ineptitude of others.
Then again, if ever there was a year for a Bradbury flag this is it.
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It will happen to 7 out of the 8 clubs who make finals every year
Best way to avoid it is to miss finals
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I don't know that we're playing well enough to beat the saints. At least we don't have to play them at Kardinia Park
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