RE: The Hawks talking up their machoness

[kingy_08]

Haha. You've lowered yourselves to the level of paying attention to Patrick Smith!

Sad.

Agree. Another garbage article like all his others

 

[caitsith01]

In keeping with the general theme, I am loving the number of Hawks fans posting on the Geelong board.

Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourselves?

 

[50metres]

In keeping with the general theme, I am loving the number of Hawks fans posting on the Geelong board.

Yeah I agree

Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourselves?

Neither, Just love reading a good post no matter whos board its on.

Ive checked every Realfooty, Superfooty, Bigfooty website & im still want more info on this game

 

[STFUJEFF]

Macho talk are good pre game mind games

Makes Geelong think

Will they
Wont they
What do we do
Should we attack first
Am I a target


Throws the opposition a few things to think about other than the football before the biggest game of the year.

Good tactics maybe?

 

[year of the cat]

Reminds me of last year when Mark Williams was sprouting off to anyone who would listen to him. Even he admitted after the game that they knew they couldn't match Geelong and had to try getting under their skin.

I think that Hawthorn, consciously or unconsciously know that they cannot beat us if we are on our game.

 

[STFUJEFF]

I think they think, they can beat the Cats
Always match up well.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Toughness shouldn't need to be talked about. It should be a pre-requisite.

It is with us.

 

[CF]

Here's one for the Hawks:

[YOUTUBE]fzM0F1M7VKo[/YOUTUBE]

not that there's anything wrong with that

 

[TheTimeCometh]

Ancient art of keeping your trap shut

Patrick Smith | September 23, 2008

WHILE it will always depend on your mobile call plan, talk remains cheap even in the year of 2008. We have seen it in Brisbane where the legend of Wayne Bennett somehow remains unchallenged.

While he is revered in Queensland and NSW, he remains an object of curiosity and nothing much else down south. To those who do not slobber in his footsteps, he appears to have earned his reputation by saying very little most of the time and looking utterly morose all of the time.

When he does deign to run more than three words together at any one time, his truncated sentences, last week at least, bear no resemblance to his philosophies. We are confounded by his stance on the three Broncos drinking to excess in the week of a final and the footage of Darren Lockyer, the Broncos captain, physically manhandling a bar manager.

Bennett said everybody knows society has an issue with binge drinking. And it always will, Wayne, if players out drinking excessively in the week the Broncos face Melbourne Storm, the dominant team of the NRL competition, are not disciplined and dropped. The Broncos' self-indulgent stance means it considers finals success above anything else. With it the image of the NRL takes another mauling. The investigation into claims of a sexual assault linked to the three players continues.

Bennett also supported Lockyer, who initially denied that he was the man caught on video grappling with a bar manager, by suggesting that Lockyer, at best, was doing some extra-curricular tackle practice or, at worst, guilty of nothing more than skylarking.

After more conclusive tapes were discovered that proved the culprit was Lockyer and no one else, the skipper said he had no memory of it but did apologise if anybody had been offended by his actions. Lockyer, an immensely powerful man drilled in making body contact hurt, physically confronted a man going about his duty. Skylarking or assault? By any reckoning it would have been a frightening experience.

It might be Bennett's six premierships that have made him immune from proper scrutiny. Presumably, the NSW media will make up what they think of him now that he is directly in its midst with St George Illawarra, at least for the next three years. But his new charges can draw from last week's performance that drunken behaviour will not impact on them representing their sport or their club.

If challenged Bennett will look sullen and treat people as drongos. Ultimately, though he is doing his sport a disservice.


Bennett also supported Lockyer, who initially denied that he was the man caught on video grappling with a bar manager, by suggesting that Lockyer, at best, was doing some extra-curricular tackle practice or, at worst, guilty of nothing more than skylarking.

After more conclusive tapes were discovered that proved the culprit was Lockyer and no one else, the skipper said he had no memory of it but did apologise if anybody had been offended by his actions. Lockyer, an immensely powerful man drilled in making body contact hurt, physically confronted a man going about his duty. Skylarking or assault? By any reckoning it would have been a frightening experience.

It might be Bennett's six premierships that have made him immune from proper scrutiny. Presumably, the NSW media will make up what they think of him now that he is directly in its midst with St George Illawarra, at least for the next three years. But his new charges can draw from last week's performance that drunken behaviour will not impact on them representing their sport or their club.

If challenged Bennett will look sullen and treat people as drongos. Ultimately, though he is doing his sport a disservice.

Bennett also supported Lockyer, who initially denied that he was the man caught on video grappling with a bar manager, by suggesting that Lockyer, at best, was doing some extra-curricular tackle practice or, at worst, guilty of nothing more than skylarking.

After more conclusive tapes were discovered that proved the culprit was Lockyer and no one else, the skipper said he had no memory of it but did apologise if anybody had been offended by his actions. Lockyer, an immensely powerful man drilled in making body contact hurt, physically confronted a man going about his duty. Skylarking or assault? By any reckoning it would have been a frightening experience.

It might be Bennett's six premierships that have made him immune from proper scrutiny. Presumably, the NSW media will make up what they think of him now that he is directly in its midst with St George Illawarra, at least for the next three years. But his new charges can draw from last week's performance that drunken behaviour will not impact on them representing their sport or their club.

If challenged Bennett will look sullen and treat people as drongos. Ultimately, though he is doing his sport a disservice.


Talk in Melbourne is as cheap as it is in Brisbane. Hawthorn, in its first grand final since 1991, seems determined to warn the world that collectively they are the toughest sons of bitches to have ever pulled on football boots.

Everybody connected with the club appears in on the deal, spurting words to every conceivable media outfit. Past players suggested that Luke Hodge, coughing blood from a heavy bump early in the game, stayed on the ground in the second-half humiliation of St Kilda to intimidate Geelong. It was a statement: look how tough we are.

What is the reckoning behind this? That Geelong players are taking notes? "Hodge won't go off the field. He must be tough, we must be scared." It is the logic of 10-year-olds.

Or this from Robert DiPierdomenico. "Get a kick, get a smack in the mouth, get a touch of the ball, tackle a player, just get involved. This is the line-in-the-sand trick - this is it, this is the way we're playing, all in or nothing."

Or midfielder Jordan Lewis: "Finals are won with tough hard bodies. A grand final is no different - you have to channel all your aggression at the ball. If you hurt someone in the process, you hurt someone."

Or utility Campbell Brown: "We are trying to breed it tough. There are a lot of blokes here who are super-competitive and you just have to look at our leaders (Sam) Mitchell and Hodge, they set the example and it is fantastic. The culture here is you put your head over the footy and if you don't you are not going to play."

The worry of all these grave warnings is that tough teams do not need to do it. It is contrived ferocity. Teams that feel they have to portray a terrifying aspect of their game often are hiding shortcomings.

In the five games between the clubs since Alastair Clarkson became coach of Hawthorn, he has won three. But the tackle count is in Geelong's favour 241 to 227. The Hawks have had more players reported, but Geelong has reached consecutive grand finals. Hawthorn is hard but it might fear it is not as ruthless as Geelong. And so the Hawthorn family talks it up. Say it loud enough, often enough and you might convince the playing group.

Geelong, on the other hand, knows it can take any savaging on the field. Fremantle came at it manically and fiercely in round 15. The Dockers launched a savage but undisciplined assault. Geelong returned fire with tackles - 77 to 46 - and came up with 28 scoring shots to 14.

For credibility's sake a little less talking from the Hawks, and a lot more action from Bennett would be timely. Get that into your heads, fellas.

Talk is cheap. As Leigh Matthews once said- They're like a bunch of kids standing outside a haunted house, trying to convince themselves that they aren't terrified.

GO CATS!

slab serious

 

[And_ROOS]

Macho talk are good pre game mind games

Makes Geelong think

Will they
Wont they
What do we do
Should we attack first
Am I a target


Throws the opposition a few things to think about other than the football before the biggest game of the year.

Good tactics maybe?

Not at all. Why would Geelong, the best team in the league and the most successful over 2 years, change what they are doing because a few Hawks players spoke to the media?

They wont change anything, they will concentrate on doing what they have been doing all year which is attacking football down the centre of the ground.

Its worked in 40 odd matches so far, dont see why anyone would fiddle with that now.

 

[haywood jablome]

Hawthorn supporters
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[shallowhall]

Don't forget the Hawks have three major concerns. All will play, but post season face surgery. Croad has a broken bone in his foot, not deep bruising, Bateman needs an ankle reco and Campbell Brown has two broken bones. Bit like the Big Cox though - broken, but can still play with painkillers.

 

[lethal03]

Ancient art of keeping your trap shut

Patrick Smith | September 23, 2008

WHILE it will always depend on your mobile call plan, talk remains cheap even in the year of 2008. We have seen it in Brisbane where the legend of Wayne Bennett somehow remains unchallenged.

While he is revered in Queensland and NSW, he remains an object of curiosity and nothing much else down south. To those who do not slobber in his footsteps, he appears to have earned his reputation by saying very little most of the time and looking utterly morose all of the time.

When he does deign to run more than three words together at any one time, his truncated sentences, last week at least, bear no resemblance to his philosophies. We are confounded by his stance on the three Broncos drinking to excess in the week of a final and the footage of Darren Lockyer, the Broncos captain, physically manhandling a bar manager.

Bennett said everybody knows society has an issue with binge drinking. And it always will, Wayne, if players out drinking excessively in the week the Broncos face Melbourne Storm, the dominant team of the NRL competition, are not disciplined and dropped. The Broncos' self-indulgent stance means it considers finals success above anything else. With it the image of the NRL takes another mauling. The investigation into claims of a sexual assault linked to the three players continues.

Bennett also supported Lockyer, who initially denied that he was the man caught on video grappling with a bar manager, by suggesting that Lockyer, at best, was doing some extra-curricular tackle practice or, at worst, guilty of nothing more than skylarking.

After more conclusive tapes were discovered that proved the culprit was Lockyer and no one else, the skipper said he had no memory of it but did apologise if anybody had been offended by his actions. Lockyer, an immensely powerful man drilled in making body contact hurt, physically confronted a man going about his duty. Skylarking or assault? By any reckoning it would have been a frightening experience.

It might be Bennett's six premierships that have made him immune from proper scrutiny. Presumably, the NSW media will make up what they think of him now that he is directly in its midst with St George Illawarra, at least for the next three years. But his new charges can draw from last week's performance that drunken behaviour will not impact on them representing their sport or their club.

If challenged Bennett will look sullen and treat people as drongos. Ultimately, though he is doing his sport a disservice.

Talk in Melbourne is as cheap as it is in Brisbane. Hawthorn, in its first grand final since 1991, seems determined to warn the world that collectively they are the toughest sons of bitches to have ever pulled on football boots.

Everybody connected with the club appears in on the deal, spurting words to every conceivable media outfit. Past players suggested that Luke Hodge, coughing blood from a heavy bump early in the game, stayed on the ground in the second-half humiliation of St Kilda to intimidate Geelong. It was a statement: look how tough we are.

What is the reckoning behind this? That Geelong players are taking notes? "Hodge won't go off the field. He must be tough, we must be scared." It is the logic of 10-year-olds.

Or this from Robert DiPierdomenico. "Get a kick, get a smack in the mouth, get a touch of the ball, tackle a player, just get involved. This is the line-in-the-sand trick - this is it, this is the way we're playing, all in or nothing."

Or midfielder Jordan Lewis: "Finals are won with tough hard bodies. A grand final is no different - you have to channel all your aggression at the ball. If you hurt someone in the process, you hurt someone."

Or utility Campbell Brown: "We are trying to breed it tough. There are a lot of blokes here who are super-competitive and you just have to look at our leaders (Sam) Mitchell and Hodge, they set the example and it is fantastic. The culture here is you put your head over the footy and if you don't you are not going to play."

The worry of all these grave warnings is that tough teams do not need to do it. It is contrived ferocity. Teams that feel they have to portray a terrifying aspect of their game often are hiding shortcomings.

In the five games between the clubs since Alastair Clarkson became coach of Hawthorn, he has won three. But the tackle count is in Geelong's favour 241 to 227. The Hawks have had more players reported, but Geelong has reached consecutive grand finals. Hawthorn is hard but it might fear it is not as ruthless as Geelong. And so the Hawthorn family talks it up. Say it loud enough, often enough and you might convince the playing group.

Geelong, on the other hand, knows it can take any savaging on the field. Fremantle came at it manically and fiercely in round 15. The Dockers launched a savage but undisciplined assault. Geelong returned fire with tackles - 77 to 46 - and came up with 28 scoring shots to 14.

For credibility's sake a little less talking from the Hawks, and a lot more action from Bennett would be timely. Get that into your heads, fellas.

Talk is cheap. As Leigh Matthews once said- They're like a bunch of kids standing outside a haunted house, trying to convince themselves that they aren't terrified.

GO CATS!

Hahahaha..you have a trans that dresses as a cat in heels as your cheer squad rep nuff said At laest Joffa knows what sex he is

 

[STFUJEFF]

Not at all. Why would Geelong, the best team in the league and the most successful over 2 years, change what they are doing because a few Hawks players spoke to the media?

They wont change anything, they will concentrate on doing what they have been doing all year which is attacking football down the centre of the ground.

Its worked in 40 odd matches so far, dont see why anyone would fiddle with that now.

You would hope so
What happens if the opposition fiddles with it?

 

[maryjames]

i was watching rambo the other nite and a hawks supporter said to me thats like hodge out bush near colac in training. now thats macho.

 

[Cohzee]

Hawthorn was fielding the youngest team in the comp.

'Cept you weren't.

 

[jazz]

Just shows how stupid Smith is.

Look at his article index on the Australian Website:

"Hawk bloodlust could stain showpiece"
followed by :
"Cats will march to the double"
and then ......
"Battered bodies, shattered minds as Hawks' shrill pierces air"

Knob.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Worst journalist going round.

 

[bigdroppunt]

i hate Fatprick Smith.....I turn off SEN when he comes on

 

[GiveUsOurCupBack]

Well I don't think they will; be talking up much now, me and some mates stole there sign they put up on the freeway. We ditched the poles and saved the sign and the bags. Suck on that Dawksthorn

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Well I don't think they will; be talking up much now, me and some mates stole there sign they put up on the freeway. We ditched the poles and saved the sign and the bags. Suck on that Dawksthorn

wow, you really showed 'em didn't you?

Kinda makes us smashing you and winning the flag a bit pointless now.

EDIT: WTF, this was a Bay 13 thread last time I checked.

 

[GiveUsOurCupBack]

They love they bloody sign and now I goit it, so thats showing them they are notr so tough enymore

 

[RatPlatten44]

"In the five games between the clubs since Alastair Clarkson became coach of Hawthorn, he has won three. But the tackle count is in Geelong's favour 241 to 227."

But the premiership count in 2008 is HAWTHORN 1 and Geelong 0 !!!
Talk is cheap!

 

[RatPlatten44]

Well I don't think they will; be talking up much now, me and some mates stole there sign they put up on the freeway. We ditched the poles and saved the sign and the bags. Suck on that Dawksthorn

If you think that's going to fix everything, why don't you take a look at your empty trophy cabinet.

 

[GiveUsOurCupBack]

This is a Geelong board and you are just troling. Ban him.