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The Pies did it to Plow also.
How do we let this happen?
Teague has had enough time to have a plan to combat this tactic.
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The Pies did it to Plow also.
How do we let this happen?
Teague has had enough time to have a plan to combat this tactic.
Who tags at the dogs? And can they run 17km in a game?
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It was pretty much done: Jones opens up on renaissance
Liam Jones thought his AFL dream was over. Most in the football world did.www.carltonfc.com.au
Terrific redemptive tale. He doesn’t get spoken about a lot but his attitude and value are superb and simply gets the job done.
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Last season their players racked up similar numbers to the rest of the comp.
Top-five most distance covered in a game in 2020
Patrick Lipinski, 13.6km v Adelaide, round 12
Ryan Gardner, 13.5km v Adelaide, round 12
Marcus Bontempelli, 13.4km v Brisbane, round 11
Will Hayes, 13.4km v Geelong, round 14
Lachie Young, 13.1km v Essendon, round 7
Bear in mind the shortened game time. So they have plenty of options and because it is a team game they might swap a few players. The sort of thinking that Sam Walsh is unstoppable would not be happening at any single AFL club. Nor do we want all our eggs in the Sam Walsh basket
Top-five most distance covered in a game in 2020
Patrick Lipinski, 13.6km v Adelaide, round 12
Ryan Gardner, 13.5km v Adelaide, round 12
Marcus Bontempelli, 13.4km v Brisbane, round 11
Will Hayes, 13.4km v Geelong, round 14
Lachie Young, 13.1km v Essendon, round 7
Bear in mind the shortened game time. So they have plenty of options and because it is a team game they might swap a few players. The sort of thinking that Sam Walsh is unstoppable would not be happening at any single AFL club. Nor do we want all our eggs in the Sam Walsh basket
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Something very wrong about our stats from last season
Top-five most distance covered in a game in 2020
Sam Walsh, 13.5km v GWS Giants, round 15
Sam Walsh, 13.4km v Fremantle, round 12
Sam Walsh, 13.1km v Sydney, round 16
Sam Walsh, 12.9km v Collingwood, round 14
Sam Walsh, 12.9km v Adelaide, round 17
Top-five most distance covered in a game in 2020
Sam Walsh, 13.5km v GWS Giants, round 15
Sam Walsh, 13.4km v Fremantle, round 12
Sam Walsh, 13.1km v Sydney, round 16
Sam Walsh, 12.9km v Collingwood, round 14
Sam Walsh, 12.9km v Adelaide, round 17
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This is going to be an interesting one, because we match up really well against them. Their mids aren't the 'smash it wide' style that Cripps struggles against, so expect him to go a bit better. They have weird lapses which can last whole games, and they had one last week; in the past, those lapses have consumed months before, and there's been precious little to explain what prompted them or caused the team to switch back on again.
See, I think the big wins we've had against them have not come against them when they're switched on; rather, we've got them at a good time. I really don't know for certain what we're going in against this week; could be that last week was the beginning of a lapse that will last a month, and we're going to hit them fairly hard, or it could be that they're a better side now and those lapses have gone the way of the dodo. The funny thing is that everything they've shown this year is completely within the bounds of the expected from them; we've known they can play footy this way for a while now, and the only unexpected part of this was Bruce's 10 in round 3. What would be unexpected for them is if they can sustain this level for longer than 10 weeks.
I back this to be close, but it would take one of two things for us to win: one, Cripps plays well. I'm talking, he drags us over the line himself. He has enough clearances to top the Dogs himself, he kicks 3-4 goals (not from set shots, or he'll need 10 of them to get there) and his contribution will mean that Walsh can just be amazing beside him. They spend all game kicking it to Jones and Weitering, and their rebounders - JJ and Daniels - keep getting pressured into mistakes. Weitering blankets Norton while Jones plays off Bruce, and Doc and Saad both rebound to their heart's content. We win the time in possession count, and the contested possession count.
The other way we win is if they're off. Their good players play poorly - not Bont, because he's pretty consistent. They rely on others to be win/loss - and their poor players just keep giving the ball back. Bruce keeps missing the ball. Norton keeps missing the goals. Easton Wood pretends the ball's a magnet and he can't get the polarity right.
I can't pick us to win, but gee it'd be pretty fun if we did.
See, I think the big wins we've had against them have not come against them when they're switched on; rather, we've got them at a good time. I really don't know for certain what we're going in against this week; could be that last week was the beginning of a lapse that will last a month, and we're going to hit them fairly hard, or it could be that they're a better side now and those lapses have gone the way of the dodo. The funny thing is that everything they've shown this year is completely within the bounds of the expected from them; we've known they can play footy this way for a while now, and the only unexpected part of this was Bruce's 10 in round 3. What would be unexpected for them is if they can sustain this level for longer than 10 weeks.
I back this to be close, but it would take one of two things for us to win: one, Cripps plays well. I'm talking, he drags us over the line himself. He has enough clearances to top the Dogs himself, he kicks 3-4 goals (not from set shots, or he'll need 10 of them to get there) and his contribution will mean that Walsh can just be amazing beside him. They spend all game kicking it to Jones and Weitering, and their rebounders - JJ and Daniels - keep getting pressured into mistakes. Weitering blankets Norton while Jones plays off Bruce, and Doc and Saad both rebound to their heart's content. We win the time in possession count, and the contested possession count.
The other way we win is if they're off. Their good players play poorly - not Bont, because he's pretty consistent. They rely on others to be win/loss - and their poor players just keep giving the ball back. Bruce keeps missing the ball. Norton keeps missing the goals. Easton Wood pretends the ball's a magnet and he can't get the polarity right.
I can't pick us to win, but gee it'd be pretty fun if we did.
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Where is the ball at this point? I'm guessing it's in our forward line, and if so our interceptors (Weiters, Jones, Parks, Plow and Doc) are probably set up across the middle of the ground.
Stocker is only there to provide a contest on a crazy fast break, but the plan is to set up in a way that that doesn't happen.
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Also, just finishing up another rewatch of the Essendon game - I don't think Gibbons was as bad as has been made out.
Applied some good pressure, had a few kicks and handballs either fall short of him or favour his opponent (plus a few very unlucky bounces), was under immediate pressure for a lot of his disposals which caused some errors, but he also hit some really good kicks as well as a few smart taps to the advantage of a teammate which wouldn't have registered on the stat sheet.
May still come out if we need to fit Williams, Murph and SPS into the starting 22, but it was hardly the deplorable outing some have suggested.
Applied some good pressure, had a few kicks and handballs either fall short of him or favour his opponent (plus a few very unlucky bounces), was under immediate pressure for a lot of his disposals which caused some errors, but he also hit some really good kicks as well as a few smart taps to the advantage of a teammate which wouldn't have registered on the stat sheet.
May still come out if we need to fit Williams, Murph and SPS into the starting 22, but it was hardly the deplorable outing some have suggested.
Love Jonesy. Great read, his attitude is fantastic.
Really? Owies kicked 3, laid tackles in the F50, and crucially, also ran all the way to FB to lay a tackle. Murph would never have done the defensive things.
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What's your problem?
Seriously. What the **** kind of crap is this, Frump? You have zero idea of my circumstances or what I do with most of my time. In fact, if anything is astounding it's that you're choosing to use your time to criticise others for how they use their time.
w***er.
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Don’t agree with you that leaving our backline newbie one-out on the “package” as our deepest defender is a great tactic.
As the Collingwood game showed, where Buckley isolated a mismatched Plowman in a similar way against taller/faster opponents, it leaves us vulnerable.
Other teams will prove the point in the coming weeks unless we fix it.
I’d rather see the baggers doing this to the opposition, eg Crippa on a smaller opponent one-out in the goal square with no one else around.
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The Pies played through Plowman's man a lot, but it wasn't because we left him one out as the deepest defender. They just had his man lead aggressively into space and then honoured that lead again and again.
There is nothing wrong with Stocker being our deepest defender - on the 50m arc - when we're inside our forward 50. The marking defenders are in positions to mark or spoil, and Stocker is making sure that if something does sneak through that Stringer can't just walk it in.
How many times did the ball get through our zone to a one on one Stringer/Stocker contest in the forward 50?
Thing is I get what Teague is saying, we’d like to defend better but if we won last week 80-65 would of that been better?
I’m not sure it would of, we can attack and score quickly, which is a strength, I don’t want to return to turgid Bolton style stuff.
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In the Pies game the six goals kicked on Plow were because they targeted his matchups (DeGoey, Elliott til injured, Hoskin Elliott, Cox). Agreed. I lost what hair I had left watching him minding Cox. Way too risky for my liking.
I totally agree with the guy that tweeted the pic though. A top team would shred us to pieces if we left Stocker on a Stinger type in lots of space for too long, especially with 60 plus inside fifties.
It’s a huge gamble and too offensive.
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Better bloody well not.That would be outrageous.
Yes 80 -65 would be better imo , Essendon have proven it time and time again shootout scorelines and style of football do not win finals too often .
When the pressure of finals intensifies they crumble .
Teague gave the players a bake after rd 2 for sub standard defensive play so what has changed in his mindset since ?
Oh yes weve had a couple of wins since against mediocre opposition .
We are a long way off finals so time to get our team defense improved but the mesaging is strange imo .
Have to remember this is still a young list so setting defensive standards should also be a big priority .
I think you have interpreted my post differently than I had intended. I am not advocating for it. I agree with you, Owies should absolutely keep his spot. I dont know if the match committee has the spine to play Owies over Murphy if it was between them 2 is what I was getting at.
On SPS "....his challenge will be playing HFF/midfield going forward..."
what about 85-74? That's the same percentage difference as 123 - 107.
On SPS "....his challenge will be playing HFF/midfield going forward..."
His challenge was playing defence going backward.
Playing HFF/midfield should be a doddle.
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I dunno, the Dogs are pretty good at letting the better opposition mids just roam around and do what they want. Also you might be underestimating Sam Walsh.
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