Autopsy Round 1, 2022: St.Kilda v Collingwood

[luca77]

No team can be taken seriously with the pea heart Ryan Byrnes running around.
He’s not the reason we lost but the fact he’s playing is an indictment on our recruiting and development.

Pea hearted comment

 

[bird_man]

Firstly, happy to admit I got it wrong about Hayes. He was terrific tonight and looked a totally different player than over the pre season games.

Now to the negatives

1. Our defensive game is embarrassing. We don't have the cattle to rely on a one on one game in defence. Our best key defender is a good average player and we have little after that.

I expected big changes under Enright but tonight was awful. Conceding 100 points to a bottom 4 side.

2. Our midfield is second rate. Yes we had a few out but only one you can argue is a starting mid.

The sad thing is I can't see where the improvement comes from anytime soon outside of Jones coming back.

The ace up our sleeves should be Clark but the fact we have refused to play him in the middle most of his career means he is green and has a lot of development to go through.

Guys like Cerra and Brayshaw taken in the same draft have been playing midfield for a number of years and look set to become elite mids of the comp.

We have also decided to ignore midfielders in the first round for 2 years straight and are hoping guys like Byrne's and Bytel will do it for us.

Summary - Unfortunately we don't have the cattle in defence or the midfield and our defensive game plan is not going to get us anywhere any time soon.

 

[Yawkey way]

Collingwood just have better players than us

All-Australians for Collingwood:

Pendlebury x6
Grundy x2
Sidebottom
Adams
Moore
De Goey (squad)
Howe (squad)
Maynard (squad) (didn't play)

All-Australians for St Kilda:

Hannebery x3 (didn't play)
Steele x2
Ryder (didn't play)
Ross (squad)
Butler (squad)

We just don't have many good players, a lot of honest triers and B graders.

Everyone has underrated collingwood, not great but hardy easy beats.

 

[Confuscius]

Cant continually persist with guys like Kent over the course of several years then get upset when the results stay the same.

 

[donq69]

Players who deserve to be dropped for Round 2:

Hill
Byrnes
Battle
Webster
Crouch
Butler
Wood
Ross
Owens
Kent

Everyone else except for Hayes Steele Marshall lucky to survive the chop.

Go and get some ******* balls, Saints!!!! What a bunch of soft ***** this football Club has become!!!!

FS!

 

[Mr Pickles]

Brad f*cking Hill. Please take your 900k a year and spend it on a Basic Footy Skills 101 course for absolute flog shit dummies. Useless!!!!

 

[Diehard Saint]

Can we just rebuild and do it properly.



Please.

Well at least we won’t be throwing all our picks at Ben….he saved us from ourselves.

 

[Munga]

What does Kent do at training for the team to keep thinking that his next game will be good?

Ask the people here who defend his selection. Geez, the amount of people who pushed back at the criticism of his selection. Some never learn.

Maybe as a COVID top-up player, that's kinda his level.

Great guy. As a footballer, not up to this level week to week. He'd have a lot of fun at the next level down.

 

[TheOsprey]

If we were any chance of doing anything this year then we should be beating a poor Collingwood side comfortably, with or without dodgy umpires.

We’re a mediocre side that will finish somewhere on the middle of the ladder.

Need to cut our losses and rebuild a fair amount.

 

[Desperate saint]

Byrnes was ordinary but agree MG took it too far.

Don't think he should be in the team next week.

Just a very average team with a very average midfield to think i was thinking top 8 !!! Ratts gone i reckon

 

[lethalsaints]

Reality check for the people thinking this list is good. That's a bottom 6 team that smashed us. Pull your heads in

 

[denisp]

Give clarko 5 years and let him get who he wants and do what he needs

Sent from my SM-N985F using BigFooty.com mobile appunlucky. You guys better team. How you lost?

Firstly, happy to admit I got it wrong about Hayes. He was terrific tonight and looked a totally different player than over the pre season games.

Now to the negatives

1. Our defensive game is embarrassing. We don't have the cattle to rely on a one on one game in defence. Our best key defender is a good average player and we have little after that.

I expected big changes under Enright but tonight was awful. Conceding 100 points to a bottom 4 side.

2. Our midfield is second rate. Yes we had a few out but only one you can argue is a starting mid.

The sad thing is I can't see where the improvement comes from anytime soon outside of Jones coming back.

The ace up our sleeves should be Clark but the fact we have refused to play him in the middle most of his career means he is green and has a lot of development to go through.

Guys like Cerra and Brayshaw taken in the same draft have been playing midfield for a number of years and look set to become elite mids of the comp.

We have also decided to ignore midfielders in the first round for 2 years straight and are hoping guys like Byrne's and Bytel will do it for us.

Summary - Unfortunately we don't have the cattle in defence or the midfield and our defensive game plan is not going to get us anywhere any time soon.

Are they bottom 4 ? Or are we?

 

[Desperate saint]

If we were any chance of doing anything this year then we should be beating a poor Collingwood side comfortably, with or without dodgy umpires.

We’re a mediocre side that will finish somewhere on the middle of the ladder.

Correct

 

[lethalsaints]

Worst midfield in the comp.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Is Ratts really up
To it or is his cattle lame.

 

[sverik25]

If we were any chance of doing anything this year then we should be beating a poor Collingwood side comfortably, with or without dodgy umpires.

We’re a mediocre side that will finish somewhere on the middle of the ladder.

Need to cut our losses and rebuild a fair amount.

Based on tonight's performance if we finish in the middle of the ladder we'll be doing well.

 

[MordySaint]

So we have given the reins to Leathlean...

He's done such a great job since he came on in 2018.

 

[Joffaboy]

Brad f*cking Hill. Please take your 900k a year and spend it on a Basic Footy Skills 101 course for absolute flog sh*t dummies. Useless!!!!

He we go . Hill was the least of our problems. Go get another scapegoat or at least watch the frigging game.

 

[jwikked]

Does anyone know what the official crowd figure was?

 

[Darksidepoints]

Kent is as flakey as you can get. Put games into anyone else. He should be be a band-aid solution at best.

 

[bird_man]

Are they bottom 4 ? Or are we?

Well they were bottom 4 last year.

Maybe we will be this year. I just hope we use the top 4 pick on a midfielder if it happens

 

[Paddy2014]

An incredibly poor effort. Looked like we lost contested and uncontested ball ball badly (at the ground not sure of stats). Collingwoods pressure was not matched for the majority of the game. Only time we looked okay was when they looked flat. To all the peeps that talk about the quality and quantity of our mids....

You are all spot on.

The reason we lost tonight!

I have no idea how to rectify it bar the inclusion of those key mids missing however I know we should be beating a bottom 4 side with our side that was on the park tonight.

Fear it's gonna be a long year.....

 

[Mikka84]

The serious issue that we have is that Ratts is gonna be coaching to save himself.

Guys like Kent, Wood, DMac etc will keep getting games because Ratts needs wins now and won't want to risk blooding more kids.

In reality Owens, Wanga, Bytel & Windhager should be getting games pumped in because that's our best chance of developing a midfield in the mid-long term.

I was all for Ratts getting a 2nd shot but I don't think he's any better than he was at Carlton unfortunately.

Letho & Clarko 2023.. kaboom!

 

[denisp]

Just a very average team with a very average midfield to think i was thinking top 8 !!! Ratts gone i reckon

Doesn’t matter who coaches got to get right players in

 

[Ads734]

Well to me same as last year missed chances - Higgins and King.
We just make it so difficult for ourselves. Also can we stop giving away dumb free kicks.

Fumbles , missed handballs cost us big time today
Byrnes, butler, Higgins, Wilkie Hill, McKenzie. We just could not get any space in the game.

Unfortunately it just took us too long to get into the game. I still don’t think we’re that far off it nor do I think Collingwood are that bad. Also feck we need to get Gresh and Sincs into the game earlier. As soon as we addded speed on the ball we looked a whole lot better.

So frustrating today.
Props to Hayes as I said before heart of lion and team lifter it’s amazing how clean he is for someone so big.

We need some help for Steele , getting mauled at every stoppage.

Oh and those pig headed umps missing all Collingwood throws but pings Mason wood

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Mason Wood

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

is laughable