Round 1 team 2021

[Rory Walkerfield]

This is what I expect us to roll out with

B: Brown - Talia - Kelly
HB: Mackay - Doedee - Smith
C: Sloane - M. Crouch - Seedsman
HF: Lynch - Walker - McAdam
F: Jones - Himmelberg - Fogarty
R: O'Brien - Keays - Laird

I: Milera - Sholl - Murphy - Hately

E: McAsey - Schoenberg - Pick 1 - Hamill

Lols. Is Thommo back coaching the women? Can roll him in too.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

So with Hartigan leaving , there is nothing more certain than Kelly playing every game.

 

[thebirdman 24]

B: Butts - Talia - Doedee
HB: Hamill - Mcasey - Smith
C: Milera - M. Crouch - Scholl
HF: Sloane - Fogarty - McAdam
F: Stengle - Himmelberg - Tex
R: O'Brien - Laird - Schoenberg
Int: Keays, Hollands, Hately, Mcpherson

Notable omissions: Kelly, Mackay, Seedsman, Jones, Mchenry.

I cant justify both Lynch and Tex. I think we are too tall if both play in addition to Himmelberg and Fog who should be locks.

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[1970crow]

This is what I expect us to roll out with

B: Brown - Talia - Kelly
HB: Mackay - Doedee - Smith
C: Sloane - M. Crouch - Seedsman
HF: Lynch - Walker - McAdam
F: Jones - Himmelberg - Fogarty
R: O'Brien - Keays - Laird

I: Milera - Sholl - Murphy - Hately

E: McAsey - Schoenberg - Pick 1 - Hamill

I expect that Sloane will be in the centre square at the opening bounce of every quarter that he is selected for.

 

[1970crow]

So with Hartigan leaving , there is nothing more certain than Kelly playing every game.

Seed and Kelly were the only senior players dropped this year that had played consecutive games. Seed stayed dropped for a few games both times but Kelly was rushed back the following week both times. But Doedee was injured in both games he was dropped for, so his return was likely due to that factor. I'm hopeful that we've moved past Kelly and our slow ball speed from defence system. But we do have a selection philosophy that leans on experience above performance, so there's always doubt.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

This is what I expect us to roll out with

B: Brown - Talia - Kelly
HB: Mackay - Doedee - Smith
C: Sloane - M. Crouch - Seedsman
HF: Lynch - Walker - McAdam
F: Jones - Himmelberg - Fogarty
R: O'Brien - Keays - Laird

I: Milera - Sholl - Murphy - Hately

E: McAsey - Schoenberg - Pick 1 - Hamill

You really expect Kelly and DMac to play round 1?

Wow tou keep living in the Don Pyke era

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[Macca48]

McAsey in for Butts and it's pretty close for mine. If Hollands is pick 1 reckon he would go close to getting picked ahead of Jones.

I agree, but I reckon we get McDonald, and there’s a chance he’s picked ahead of Fog.

 

[1990crow]

You really expect Kelly and DMac to play round 1?

Wow tou keep living in the Don Pyke era

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I think it's more understanding the club has these two players pencilled in no matter what for the detriment of our future.

 

[Golumless]

You really expect Kelly and DMac to play round 1?

Wow tou keep living in the Don Pyke era

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You mean the Jake Kelly

29

Jake Kelly

Age

29

Ht

190cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

157.8

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

104.1

2star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.2

5star

MG

107.0

2star

who managed 15 games in 2020 and a David Mackay

14

David Mackay

Age

36

Ht

181cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

315.4

4star

D

16.5

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.0

3star

MG

265.5

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.2

3star

who not only managed 10 games but a top 10 in our BnF.

I'll believe they won't be in our round 1 side when I see it.

 

[Murray2503]

B: Brown Talia, Doedee
HB: McPherson McAsey Milera
C: Sholl Smith Hamill
HF: McAdam Himmelberg Worrell/Fogarty
F: Stengle(round 5) Thilthorpe Jones
R: ROB, Laird MCrouch

INT: Sloane Hately/Keays Schoenberg Pedlar/Berry

Our experienced players are Brown, Talia, Doedee, Milera, Smith, Himmelberg, ROB, Laird, MCrouch, Sloane. Still plenty of experience out there. No Walker and Lynch in this side.

I like the pace in the team with Doedee, Milera, Brown, Sholl, Smith, Hamill, McAdam, Jones, Stengle, Laird, Schoenberg, Worrell, Pedlar/Berry all with reasonable to express pace.

I think this team can still win between 4-7 games next year which should be the objective as well as getting experience into the young kids.

 

[Golumless]

My pre-draft (and I'm not projecting who'll we draft, though the only player I reckon we'll draft who seems odds on to break into our round 1 side would be McDonald. I assume with Hollands ACL, and Thilthorpe groins, we'll be uber-cautious with their workloads next year. A good preseason changes it for me though) round 1 side, assuming no injuries whatsoever.

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: Smith - McAsey - Sholl
C: Milera - Hately - Hamill
HF: McAdam - Himmelberg - Lynch
FF: Murphy (Stengle) - Fogarty - Sloane
R: ROB - M.Crouch - Laird
INT: Schoenberg - Keays - McPherson - Hinge

It's definitely on the shorter side, and I'd be comfortable with us sacrificing Lynch as a swingman of sorts. I don't know how capable Tom will be of that, but it's more drawing the short straw seeing everyone else is young or Talia.

I also reckon Hinge gets a round 1 debut. He was not far away at all for Brisbane and considering where our two clubs are at, if you're not far away for Brisbane, you start here.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

My updated round 1 side if I was coach:
Assumptions:
We draft Hollands/Phillips with pick 1 and trade up to get pick 5 from GC.
With pick 5 we take Cox. I have been big on McDonald but I just feel Cox has more strings to his bow and is a better contested mark and likely would have been in the conversation for pick 1 had he played this year. His disposal is elite.

Wait, when has Cox been known for his contested marking? I would take him at 9 if get Hollands, I would only trade up to 5 if it were Thilthorpe instead.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

2020 Best 22 based on games played

B:	Brown	Talia	Kelly
HB:	Laird	Hartigan	Smith
C:	Keays	Crouch	Jones
HF:	Lynch	Walker	McAdam
F:	Stengle	Himmelberg	Murphy
Foll:	O'Brien	Crouch	Sloane
Int:	Mackay	Fogarty	McAsey
	Doedee/	/McPherosn/	/Seedsman

2021 Best 22 from the whole squad. (pre-draft plus Hately). Forward line a little shorter than preferred.

B:	Brown	Talia	Doedee
HB:	McPherson	McAsey	Milera
C:	Smith	Crouch	Sholl
HF:	Jones	Himmelberg	Sloane
F:	Stengle	Fogarty	McAdam
Foll:	O'Brien	Laird	Hately
Shoenberg	Hamill	Hinge	Keays
Walker	Lynch	McHenry	Butts

2021 Best 22 for players 28 and under (as of Dec 2020).

B:	Brown	McAsey	Doedee
HB:	McPherson	Butts	Milera
C:	Smith	Crouch	Sholl
HF:	Jones	Himmelberg	Shoenberg
F:	Stengle	Fogerty	McAdam
Foll:	O'Brien	Laird	Hately
Hamill	Keays	Hinge	Worrell
McHenry	O'Connor	Murphy	Frampton

2021 Best 22 for players 25 and under (as of Dec 2020).

B:	McPherson	McAsey	Doedee
HB:	Hinge	Butts	Hamill
C:	Milera	Crouch	Sholl
HF:	Schoenberg	Himmelberg	Jones
F:	Stengle	Fogarty	McAdam
Foll:	O'Brien	Hately	Keays
McHenry	Worrell	O'Connor	Murphy
Kelly	Frampton	Gollant	Davis

 

[Kezza86]

My Rd 1 team won’t change much from 2020. Still need mixture of experience and young. I would also look to move Fogerty in the guts for small periods.

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: McPherson - McAsey - Hamill
C: Smith - Hately - Scholl
HF: Sloane - Walker - Lynch
FF: Rowe - Thilthorpe - McAdam
R: ROB - M.Crouch - Laird
INT: Schoenberg - Keays - Seedsman - Fogerty

emg: Jones - Himmelberg - McHenry - Butts/ Kelly

Milera out injured
Stengel Suspended

 

[StonesThrow]

Well considering we always draft purely for round 1 of the following year:

Borlase McAsey Brown
Hamill Doedee McPherson
Sholl Pedlar Milera
Cook Fogarty Stengle
Rowe Thilthorpe Newchurch

O'Brien Berry Shoenberg

Laird Jones Worrel McAdam

 

[GROTTO]

My Rd 1 team won’t change much from 2020. Still need mixture of experience and young. I would also look to move Fogerty in the guts for small periods.

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: McPherson - McAsey - Hamill
C: Smith - Hately - Scholl
HF: Sloane - Walker - Lynch
FF: Rowe - Thilthorpe - McAdam
R: ROB - M.Crouch - Laird
INT: Schoenberg - Keays - Seedsman - Fogerty

emg: Jones - Himmelberg - McHenry - Butts/ Kelly

Milera out injured
Stengel Suspended

Well considering we always draft purely for round 1 of the following year:

Borlase McAsey Brown
Hamill Doedee McPherson
Sholl Pedlar Milera
Cook Fogarty Stengle
Rowe Thilthorpe Newchurch

O'Brien Berry Shoenberg

Laird Jones Worrel McAdam

Just 3 years out of the 2017 GF and those teams are unbelievably unrecognizable. Which is a good thing with the list clean out.

Still think it will take a couple of drafts more at least plus getting those 50-100 games into our players, but then we can press and move forwards to competing for the 8.

In 2 years time, we need to add a player like Luko/Rankine/Hollands to this team.

 

[crows dude]

F	Rowe	Thilthorpe	Sloane
HF	Jones	Fogarty	Schoenberg
C	Sholl	Hateley	Hamill
HB	Hinge	McAsey	McPherson
B	Brown	Talia	Doedee
Ruck			Inter
O'Brien			Himmelberg
Crouch			McHenry
Laird			Smith
			Keays
F	McAdam	Frampton	Stengle
HF	Cook	Walker	Lynch
C	Mackay	Pedler	O'Connor
HB	Murphy	Butts	Seedsman
B	Kelly	Borlase	Worrell
Ruck			Inter
Strachan			Newchurch
Milera			Gollant
Davis			Berry
			Wright

 

[Mego Red]

I'm just doing a best 22 and reserves - not that worried about round one.

SENIORS

FF: Stengle, Himmelberg, McAdam
HF: Jones, Fogarty, Sloane
C: Sholl, Hateley, McHenry
HB: Smith, McAsey, Milera
FB: McPherson, Talia, Doedee

1st R: O'Brien, Crouch, Laird
Int: Schoenberg, Worrell, Lynch, Brown

RESERVES

FF: Rowe, Thilthorpe, Davis
HF: Gollant, Walker, Cook
C: Mackay, O'Connor, Hamill
HB: Murphy, Butts, Seedsman
FB: Kelly, Borlase, Hinge

1st R: Strachan, Pedlar, Keays
Int: Newchurch, Berry, Frampton

 

[Eagleboy2011]

SENIORS

FF: Stengle, Himmelberg, McAdam
HF: Jones, Fogarty, Sloane
C: Sholl, Hateley, McHenry
HB: Smith, McAsey, Milera
FB: McPherson, Talia, Doedee

1st R: O'Brien, Crouch, Laird
Int: Schoenberg, Worrell, Lynch, Brown

RESERVES

FF: Rowe, Thilthorpe, Davis
HF: Gollant, Walker, Cook
C: Mackay, O'Connor, Hamill
HB: Murphy, Butts, Seedsman
FB: Kelly, Borlase, Hinge

1st R: Strachan, Pedlar, Keays
Int: Newchurch, Berry, Frampton

I dont think we are allowed to play suspended players. Rowe is a certainty. Keays has to play there as well. McHenry in the 2's.

 

[Murray2503]

My Rd 1 team won’t change much from 2020. Still need mixture of experience and young. I would also look to move Fogerty in the guts for small periods.

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: McPherson - McAsey - Hamill
C: Smith - Hately - Scholl
HF: Sloane - Walker - Lynch
FF: Rowe - Thilthorpe - McAdam
R: ROB - M.Crouch - Laird
INT: Schoenberg - Keays - Seedsman - Fogerty

emg: Jones - Himmelberg - McHenry - Butts/ Kelly

Milera out injured
Stengel Suspended

Walker won't be played over Himmelberg. Himmelberg was our best forward for the 2nd half of the year. If anything they would play Walker over Thilthorpe which they shouldn't. Would like to see Walker really help the young kids out in the sanfl. Every game he plays at AFL level means a player that is part of our future doesn't add to their experience.

 

[Kezza86]

Walker won't be played over Himmelberg. Himmelberg was our best forward for the 2nd half of the year. If anything they would play Walker over Thilthorpe which they shouldn't. Would like to see Walker really help the young kids out in the sanfl. Every game he plays at AFL level means a player that is part of our future doesn't add to their experience.

Himmelberg will be backup. Walker it depends on his preseason shape and form.

 

[GROTTO]

Walker won't be played over Himmelberg. Himmelberg was our best forward for the 2nd half of the year. If anything they would play Walker over Thilthorpe which they shouldn't. Would like to see Walker really help the young kids out in the sanfl. Every game he plays at AFL level means a player that is part of our future doesn't add to their experience.

Agree.

Nicks and Pyke were under different kinds of pressure.

Pyke didnt care about the development of our juniors. Nicks has the opportunity and luxury to groom players without the concern of playing finals.

 

[LoBu]

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: McPherson - McAsey - Hamill
C: Smith - Hately - Scholl
HF: Sloane - Himmelberg - Fogarty
FF: Rowe - Thilthorpe - McAdam
R: ROB - M.Crouch - Laird
INT: Schoenberg - Milera - Jones - Lynch

emg: Keays - Walker - McHenry- Worrell

Lynch won't play 22 games and can swop with Walker to maintain that mature head in the forward line.

IMO there is no way Thilthorpe doesn't play - he's played 2 years of SANFL footy, what would be the point of not playing him? I can't wait to play the Hawks and see Thilthorpe vs DGB, or vs Gold Coast vs King - this is why we TT is such an important pick for our future.

Meanwhile McAsey will be on King at St Kilda, JUH at the dogs, and McDonald at Sydney.

That is the future.

McHenry is not looking great for a spot, but hopefully comes along in 2021. I would prefer Pedler or Cook in that emergency spot, but don't know how far they are to debut - would be good to get 5-10 games into them both.

 

[Macca48]

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: McPherson - McAsey - Hamill
C: Smith - Hately - Scholl
HF: Sloane - Himmelberg - Fogarty
FF: Rowe - Thilthorpe - McAdam
R: ROB - M.Crouch - Laird
INT: Schoenberg - Milera - Jones - Lynch

emg: Keays - Walker - McHenry- Worrell

Lynch won't play 22 games and can swop with Walker to maintain that mature head in the forward line.

IMO there is no way Thilthorpe doesn't play - he's played 2 years of SANFL footy, what would be the point of not playing him? I can't wait to play the Hawks and see Thilthorpe vs DGB, or vs Gold Coast vs King - this is why we TT is such an important pick for our future.

Meanwhile McAsey will be on King at St Kilda, JUH at the dogs, and McDonald at Sydney.

That is the future.

McHenry is not looking great for a spot, but hopefully comes along in 2021. I would prefer Pedler or Cook in that emergency spot, but don't know how far they are to debut - would be good to get 5-10 games into them both.

I like this. Maybe Keays for Jones so he can get some SANFL confidence? Will Thilthorpe be medically good to go?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

My depth chart with 1st XXII in bold

Tall forwards: Fogarty, Himmelberg, Thilthorpe, Lynch, Walker, Frampton

Small/medium forwards: McAdam, Stengle, Murphy, Davis, Rowe, McHenry, Gollant, Cook, Newchurch

Inside mids: Crouch, Laird, Sloane, Hately, Schoenberg, Jones, Pedlar, O'Connor, Berry

Wings / half backs: Milera, Smith, Sholl, Hamill, Keays, Seedsman, Claude the Crow, Mackay (Keays only listed here because he finished the season on the wing when our mids were all back)

Tall defenders: Talia, McAsey, Butts, Worrall, Borlase

Small/medium defenders: Doedee, Brown, McPherson, Kelly

Rucks: O'Brien, Strachan

F: Thilthorpe Fogarty McAdam
HF: Stengle Himmelberg Keays
C: Milera Hately Sloane
HB: Smith McAsey Sholl
B: Brown Talia Doedee
1R: O'Brien Crouch Laird
INT: Jones Schoenberg Hamill McPherson

I know Stengle is suspended but maybe he'll get time off for good behaviour

I know people tend to overrate their list at this time of year but without hyperbole, looking at that line up 2021 could be the first of several premiership dynasties in a row