Autopsy Round 13, 2023 : Hawthorn mauls Brisbane

[Mitchell Madness]

The AFL website and its Champion Data's player rating system. It's their model for measuring a player's impact throughout the game.

Is that the rating where 7 is absolute elite?

 

[hawkheart]

Kosi's been a different player these last couple of weeks. The hands aren't quite so concrete, the set shot is reliable...that goal in the Saints game seems to have turned him around, and potential is becoming performance.

3 contested marks (all in F50) = 3 goals. Glad he kept putting the work in and the club showed faith in him.

That’s twice in three weeks that it’s been Kosi who had put us in front with a straight kick (and then we haven’t been headed)

 

[Brishawk]

Thought he was good. I certainly do think Player Ratings do a better job at measuring impact than fantasy numbers, Newcombe's game not even breaking the 100 mark is baffling. Third highest rated player, behind Meek and Dunkley, is much more accurate.

Do you mean he didn’t break 100 super coach points? If so, I’d agree they aren’t as great as people think. Much of the methodology is questionable. It’s not out and out terrible but I’m sure that tanking points correlate better with winning games.

 

[KermitJagger]

Is that the rating where 7 is absolute elite?

Nope, I'm not sure what you're referring to tbh

 

[Toasted]

Eh. He was directly matched on Hipwood for a fair bit of the time Hipwood looked good. He wasn't our worst but he's got a way to go.

Hmmm, I don’t think that’s right.
His first goal was against Day/Sicily.
2nd goal was on a lead with a great hit up kick
Not sure on the third
4th goal Scrim was playing the kick in front and it went over his head and Hipwood out marked Sicily and Mitchell.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Nope, I'm not sure what you're referring to tbh

There was one of the ratings they talk about on a Monday on SEN, one of the ratings they talk about the guy always says a rating of 7 would be elite

 

[KermitJagger]

Do you mean he didn’t break 100 super coach points? If so, I’d agree they aren’t as great as people think. Much of the methodology is questionable. It’s not out and out terrible but I’m sure that tanking points correlate better with winning games.

There are two fantasy leagues, the one in the AFL app is their own fantasy points system. Idk what he got on Supercoach.

Based on the fantasy league points you'd think Neale dominated, but he had one of the worse 30 disposal games you'd see. Player Ratings gave him a 7.9.

 

[thehardway]

Blanck is a f'en jet.

Meek was huge in that game. I checked after the game. Yep... still huge!

You're clearly excited over that win as I am but maybe, just maybe, a little early to call Blanck a jet. But yeah, a very good game by him.

Ah, what the hell. He's a jet.

 

[theiaofseed]

BANG

 

[Brant]

You're clearly excited over that win as I am but maybe, just maybe, a little early to call Blanck a jet. But yeah, a very good game by him.

Ah, what the hell. He's a jet.

Oh I was calling him a jet last season.

Now, he's a shinier, faster jet

 

[Denver Day Lewis]

Yep no suspension. They'll push for draft sanctions.

I've heard rumours about a lifetime ban. For the entire Hawthorn Football Club. Harsh, if true...

 

[KermitJagger]

Hmmm, I don’t think that’s right.
His first goal was against Day/Sicily.
2nd goal was on a lead with a great hit up kick
Not sure on the third
4th goal Scrim was playing the kick in front and it went over his head and Hipwood out marked Sicily and Mitchell.

Are you ignoring the other players in these contests?

His first goal was on Day, idk why you're putting Sicily in there as he had his own opponent.
Second was on Blanck.
Third was on his own with Scrimshaw sucked into the contest
4th was where Scrimshaw was his opponent and was floating away from the contest. Sicily had his own opponent in Gunston and had to try to cover Hipwood, Mitchell had his own opponent too.

I thought Scrimshaw was better than Frost would have been, but he still has a few lapses where he gets caught off his man too often.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

A few of the maligned players this year had some great input into the Win today.

Kozi just played his role and did what we need him to do. Provide a target, provide a contest and take advantage of the opportunities when they present.

Scrimshaw was a great contributor with his team defence. We know he can kick it, but taking on more responsibility defensively was great to see. More please

While not maligned, McDonald had his best game for the club today. He was brilliant. Very good running both ways.

Meek played his role well in providing ruck relief but also using physicality at the contest. He even managed to bust a few packs and win the ground ball. More please Lloyd.

Weddle and Mitchell provide the right balance of run and defensive pressure. Locks moving forward.

 

[Denver Day Lewis]

Will Day has shades of Luke Hodge at the contest. His attack on the footy and the upright posture with shoulders pulled back.

Jai Newcombe gives off Lethal Leigh Matthews vibes. Strong and powerful with a low centre of gravity.

Cam Mackenzie does a mean impersonation of Sam Mitchell. Smart, unhurried, seems to slow time down as he makes his decisions, and wriggles, shimmies, twists and turns to evade tacklers.

And you could almost argue James Sicily

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James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

carries something of The Kid with him. A Dermott Brereton-esque swagger that's not entirely unjustified.

Don't know about you, but I'm excited.

 

[StillAtLarge]

 

[lethalselbow]

BRUEST COST US THE GAME!!!!!

Lol. Is that what the Brusbane fans were saying,? Tools.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Lol. Is that what the Brusbane fans were saying,? Tools.

What one of ours was saying

 

[Braidz]

Impey, Cmac after half time. Huge. Enjoy the win. We are coming

 

[MillerHawk]

Exactly right. His performance today, or at least his statline, was that of Prime Dustin Martin. And I can see similarities in his role. As you say, he could very well be the best we have, and it's fair to say we have quite a few future stars on our hands.

Think I saw a Dusty-style fend off in there today as well.

 

[Brishawk]

There are two fantasy leagues, the one in the AFL app is their own fantasy points system. Idk what he got on Supercoach.

Based on the fantasy league points you'd think Neale dominated, but he had one of the worse 30 disposal games you'd see. Player Ratings gave him a 7.9.

The afl site is just a stats times points score. So a kick is worth 3, a handball 1 etc.

 

[TazHawk15]

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Cam Mackenzie does a mean impersonation of Sam Mitchell. Smart, unhurried, seems to slow time down as he makes his decisions, and wriggles, shimmies, twists and turns to evade tacklers.

So Sammy like

 

[hamohawk1]

F*cking love the boys

Get f*cked 'Damo' Barett.

Don't get me started on the umpires, particularly that No. 37...

 

[Faraway Hawk]

Can someone who has watched the game please provide a summary on Weddles game?

 

[Brucie Buffer]

Anybody else seeing a bit of James Hird in the way our boy Will goes about it?
And before any blind hate Hird was a gun.