Round 14 V Fremantle @ SCG

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What are you guys worrying about this is the dockers in Sydney if u guys lose though forget about the top 4 you won't be in the finals and if you guys lose it will be the biggest upset of all time.

Hell yeah... thats why we're worrying about it. Fremantle are bringing their best 22 and its going to be tough!
 
Hmph! :mad: :mad:

Laidlaw, Vogels and LRT will not play this weekend. **** Roosy, are you blind??

Laidlaw> Mathews and McHack! *sigh* So much for drastic changes, and aiming to drop those players whose form's been sloppy...

Is this for real? Surely it cant be..:confused:
 

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Man thats it, Roos is off his head.. how you can pick a starting halfback line consisting of Mathews & Beven, its just awful..add to that tadgh who is comin bak from a knee, mate were not playing Tuggerong..
Laidlaw & Schmit would have been much better choise than either Mcveigh, Mathews & Beven.

We could have used Laidlaw a bit in the middle as well, his pace, and penetrating kick would have been handy..
Oh well i guess Roos knows what hes doing, but if we loose(even if we win) theres gona be some very unhappy people here that will be questioning the continued selection saga thats had us frustrated all year..

..I want what Roos is on, cause hes seeing something that i definately cant..
 
Coaching is overrated, Roos knows that it is the players who have turned him into a Hero in Sydney.

He doesn't want to offend any of them by dropping their hack mates and playing the kids.

Then of course there is Mcviegh, but he is a Sydney kid.

On the Swans list if you are from Sydney you get 4 million more chances than if you are from another state. I think the order comes from the boardroom down.
I wouldn't mind this if the Swans had of picked the correct Syd/NSW kids over the years, but they always seem to get the hacks and then play them consistantly over and over again ad-infinitum beyond all reason till their supporters are pulling out their hair with frustration and fury.

Roos is a ****ing liar.
 
Man thats it, Roos is off his head.. how you can pick a starting halfback line consisting of Mathews & Beven, its just awful..add to that tadgh who is comin bak from a knee, mate were not playing Tuggerong..
Laidlaw & Schmit would have been much better choise than either Mcveigh, Mathews & Beven.

We could have used Laidlaw a bit in the middle as well, his pace, and penetrating kick would have been handy..
Oh well i guess Roos knows what hes doing, but if we loose(even if we win) theres gona be some very unhappy people here that will be questioning the continued selection saga thats had us frustrated all year..

..I want what Roos is on, cause hes seeing something that i definately cant..

? Schmidt is still in the side, hasn't been dropped.

The thing against Laidlaw is that 1) he isn't close to being a midfielder at the moment, more a flanker, and 2) he doesn't solve our disposal issues because he isn't an accurate kick. Someone a little bit closer to our current needs in terms of replacing McVeigh would probably be Thornton, but truth be told there's not a lot in the reserves in terms of elite kicking skills.

Mathews has been generally good this year. If there's anyone that should be dropped it's actually Fosdike next in line after McVeigh and J Bolton, I reckon.

Still want Roos to find a way to work Dempster into the game a bit further up the field instead of deep in defence. His attributes and weaknesses are hard to utilise, but next time an opposition team plays the loose man against us (and from the games so far this year its a certainty that it'll happen every game) I want Dempster to be the loose man in defence, not Malceski who has shown he's not really a good LMID. He's a poor mark, but he's tall enough with a good enough leap for spoiling, and what I want him to do is to have the licence to gather the spilled ball on the ground and run it out at full intensity every time with arms sufficiently up that he can feed it out to our other running backs if he's in danger of getting caught. He's shown a few times that he can offload Goodes-style, but when he's thinking his arms drop and make him vulnerable to good tackles, wheras if he's going at full pace it should be better. In particularly he's so naturally accountable that he needs to be coached how to be attacking, and LMID is probably the best way for him to be taught.
 
yep ok i got carried away & wrongly mentioned Schmidt..
Though there is no way that Beven is a better choise.. Laidlaw showed more in his 1st game than Beven has done all year, and even though Mathews has had some good games this year solely as a shut down player its not enough.. Being a tagger in a team that is just about full of them, is garbage, we need more pace and penetrating long kicking, both Beven & Mathews do & have very little both..
I completely agree with you on Dempster, hes being played in the wrong position, and i would to like to see him freed up, and given a chance to play with more creativity..
 
it'll be a similar game to the prelim final but i think our home record against freo will be enough to win it. remember last week freo played carlton and will no way this game be as easy to score like that. hall will be back to his best with a bag and swans to win by 6goals
 
? Schmidt is still in the side, hasn't been dropped.

The thing against Laidlaw is that 1) he isn't close to being a midfielder at the moment, more a flanker, and 2) he doesn't solve our disposal issues because he isn't an accurate kick. Someone a little bit closer to our current needs in terms of replacing McVeigh would probably be Thornton, but truth be told there's not a lot in the reserves in terms of elite kicking skills.

Mathews has been generally good this year. If there's anyone that should be dropped it's actually Fosdike next in line after McVeigh and J Bolton, I reckon.

Still want Roos to find a way to work Dempster into the game a bit further up the field instead of deep in defence. His attributes and weaknesses are hard to utilise, but next time an opposition team plays the loose man against us (and from the games so far this year its a certainty that it'll happen every game) I want Dempster to be the loose man in defence, not Malceski who has shown he's not really a good LMID. He's a poor mark, but he's tall enough with a good enough leap for spoiling, and what I want him to do is to have the licence to gather the spilled ball on the ground and run it out at full intensity every time with arms sufficiently up that he can feed it out to our other running backs if he's in danger of getting caught. He's shown a few times that he can offload Goodes-style, but when he's thinking his arms drop and make him vulnerable to good tackles, wheras if he's going at full pace it should be better. In particularly he's so naturally accountable that he needs to be coached how to be attacking, and LMID is probably the best way for him to be taught.

Good post :thumbsu: I agree with most of it

We all have our own opinions but sometimes the question we should ask is why did "they" make that decision?

I can understand Bevan & Matthews in over Schmidt and Laidlaw

Someone has to pick up Farmer Tarrant & Headland... no Crouch and the INS are defensive specialists.

People here are way too hard on Ben Matthews.... sometimes if you don't see a player get a kick nor his opponent have many ( like last week) the player can be performing their designated task perfectly.

McVeigh & Jude surely only in to avoid taking the risk on untried midfielders
 
People here are way too hard on Ben Matthews.... sometimes if you don't see a player get a kick nor his opponent have many ( like last week) the player can be performing their designated task perfectly.

You mean like the 20-odd that Ablett got last week - Gary that is. Mathews wasn't on him the whole game but he was his opponent for large periods of the game. And things like giving away that 50m mark for running across the mark is unforgivable for an experienced player like that. Turning a low chance into a dead easy shot on goal.

He was also exceedingly ordinary the week before against the Pies.
 
You mean like the 20-odd that Ablett got last week - Gary that is. Mathews wasn't on him the whole game but he was his opponent for large periods of the game. And things like giving away that 50m mark for running across the mark is unforgivable for an experienced player like that. Turning a low chance into a dead easy shot on goal.

He was also exceedingly ordinary the week before against the Pies.

LoL:D... the comment (last week) I thought might bring ....the cup half empty comments. Wrong thread topic

Look he is no superstar but

L Power - shut down SD
T Johnstone - SD
B Harvey - for 3 qtrs
J Akermanis - SD
K Cornes - SD
N del Santo -SD

Can't remember WCE, Rich (votes), Ess

Some very handy players there!!! ... I don't think the team dud would be picked to play on those?:confused:

BUT (last week) G Ablett !!!- yes he won dual with 20 poss... BUT not convincingly for current Browlow favourite! The whole Swans team played badly the last few weeks.

as I say just trying to balance the -ve a bit!:)
 

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Ive got a reasonably good feeling about todays game as Sydney are due for a good game and they have a good record against Fremantle. Also our defence should be alot better today than in previous weeks with both Kennelly and LRT in the team.
 
? Schmidt is still in the side, hasn't been dropped.

The thing against Laidlaw is that 1) he isn't close to being a midfielder at the moment, more a flanker, and 2) he doesn't solve our disposal issues because he isn't an accurate kick. Someone a little bit closer to our current needs in terms of replacing McVeigh would probably be Thornton, but truth be told there's not a lot in the reserves in terms of elite kicking skills.

Mathews has been generally good this year. If there's anyone that should be dropped it's actually Fosdike next in line after McVeigh and J Bolton, I reckon.

Still want Roos to find a way to work Dempster into the game a bit further up the field instead of deep in defence. His attributes and weaknesses are hard to utilise, but next time an opposition team plays the loose man against us (and from the games so far this year its a certainty that it'll happen every game) I want Dempster to be the loose man in defence, not Malceski who has shown he's not really a good LMID. He's a poor mark, but he's tall enough with a good enough leap for spoiling, and what I want him to do is to have the licence to gather the spilled ball on the ground and run it out at full intensity every time with arms sufficiently up that he can feed it out to our other running backs if he's in danger of getting caught. He's shown a few times that he can offload Goodes-style, but when he's thinking his arms drop and make him vulnerable to good tackles, wheras if he's going at full pace it should be better. In particularly he's so naturally accountable that he needs to be coached how to be attacking, and LMID is probably the best way for him to be taught.


Tim Schmidt shouldn't be dropped in my opinion and neither should Matthew Laidlaw have been for this game. The ones that should have been dropped are Ben Mathews and Sean Dempster. Dempster has a poor lack of awareness and Mathews, well let's just say less about him! lol
 
IMO Benny had a very good game today on Bell he kept him very quiet so that means he did his job even tho he didnt get much of the ball himself.:thumbsu:
 
I thought when Brett Kirk kicked that goal, and his celebration was the major turnaround. His celebration after that goal was simply heartwarming and sensational. What also was heartwarming was how Kirk was in the middle of the huddled pack before 3rd Q started and was talking to them. It was simply inspirational.

Overall, our ball use and skills have improved dramatically. Our defenders look more dangerous with the presence of Tadhg Kennelly, and now Macleski can shake off all that burden. Great work from all our defenders I thought they restrictred Freo's potent forwards from getting the ball pretty well.

Although we could've beaten them by a bigger margin (23 behinds!), a 28 point win would be enough to make me happy.

I also thought all the players played their part. McVeigh, Fosdike, Hall :)D), J.Bolton had much better games. I'm very very pleased with their effort, especially Fosdike. He was electric around the field, and I remember in a space of 5 minutes Fosdike had 7 disposals! (Or something like that)

And I loved the way when Mago kicked the goal just at the end of 3Q time, everyone just came running up to him. It was simply magical and sensational. :thumbsu:

IMO Benny had a very good game today on Bell he kept him very quiet so that means he did his job even tho he didnt get much of the ball himself.:thumbsu:

Yes. I agree with you there. Peter Bell didn't have much impact on the game courtesty of Benny. I thought Bevan was pretty good too, keeping Farmer fairly 'quiet'.
 

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