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Preview Round 19: Changes Vs Western Bulldogs + Pre-match Discussion
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You’re not dumb, don’t cherry pick the 2nd and 3rd year players at convenience for the sake of an argument.
Get your head out of your arse and admit that those players are best 22 and not what the conversation is about.
We are playing blokes like Hughes - the king of brain farts and Colyer- borderline list material, Ballas - no point and Sandi - for a reason.
Two of those 4 are playing this week + Switta who tries, but is putrid apart from having a bit of toe and can tackle - we drop McCarthy who can’t get a run at it because we have disfunctional delivery into our forward line - scapegoat to an extent.
Give Crowden a better go at it, Banfield a crack as big bodied mid for longer than 2 games, Carter a run - because we need to see potential run if BHill and/or Langdon leave.
Get games or at least give a crack to the ones who haven’t played many games to see if they are worth keeping on the list.
But at this point in time we are still playing for a place in the eight. If we do get a finals game or two it would be invaluable in the long term for the young players already in the side.
If I could understand your point I'd respond, but your argument is all over the place like a mad woman's shit so I'll leave you to it.
Sorry mate, I can’t see it, we have too many injuries and we aren’t playing well.
I hope we make finals, I’ll buy a round for everyone at the Camfield if we do.
Don’t want you to respond, you just keep jogging fella. Indulge yourself
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All stats are limited, including the ones I'm quoting. It's just an indication. What you're citing is, however, poorer still. Average of every player who has played does not account for frequency which does matter - Sydney for example who are comfortably paying the youngest side and have done for weeks (helped with Buddy sitting out a few games this half of the season), are sitting mid table on your list.
FWIW, Freo hasn't had any 'new players' for the season in the last 3 rnds - so it would be the same.
The real thing being argued over is relative to our own list, i.e. who should be playing that is younger/less experienced. I posted elsewhere, but to repeat there are really only a handful of players that have been genuinely available and could have played more:
Crowden - he's had a couple of games, could argue an in for Balla this week, but really, is he worth jumping up and down about. I think he should have stayed in for Colyer, that was crazy, but still, he's nothing special.
North - I'd make a case that he could have had a shot somewhere, but he's not banging the door down at the moment.
Valente - he's not AFL ready, but could argue worth a look.
Carter - has only begun to make a case in recent weeks, I want to see him have a run this season and we probably will.
And if you want to clutch at straws:
Dixon - only because we're desperate for talls, but injury issues etc, and there's no way he has shown anything to suggest he should be playing AFL yet. Might get a game before the season's out though if we tank.
The rest of the 1-3 year players have either played with at least some regularity or are injured/have been injured and/or no where near AFL ready (e.g. Sturt).
So that's 4 players, 1 of which has played, 1 who is highly likely to play and 2 others not exactly banging the door down. And in terms of season to this point, really only 3-4 games out of 1-2 of those would have been a reasonable expectation unless we wanted to do the tanking/youth approach for the whole season.
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It's all opinion based in the end, so I'm cool with ones differing to mine, but I do think some people are not recognising that we're not exactly holding a torrent of young kids back.
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Hughes travelled - so he would come in.
Prior’s comments to me say that Switta needs a spell as he is very sore. Also We have an inexperienced and generally quiet fwd line - I particularly noticed this being at the game on Sat night. I’m not a fan of Balla coming back in but he did seem to Marshall the troops quite well in round one. Hopefully Switta returns to the fray motivated and ready to go very soon with Balla resuming his place near his named wing.
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bit prickly to tonite Haz...do you need to sit on the couch and we can talk about it. Just kidding ...agree with the norm being we would not normally be n the finals from here...even a week or two ago. But the competition has gone into a strange kind of evens the last two years and this year more so.
A good win tomorrow and we go maybe its possible. Even would consider we are a good chance against Geelong. If we get flogged then all over red rover - we go the all in of the young guys.
Cant get over the ladder....the only most consistent teams through most of the year have been Gold Coast and Melbourne
All good, just can’t see us getting in the 8.
I’d rather see what a few more games into the likes of Crowden, Schultz and Banfield- give a debut to Carter and Sturt with limited game time.
Sorry if I’m I’m a bit prickly, I just want our club to see what we have - not look into our past.
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Thats an interesting look at in terms of the transitioning going on ...won't be surprised to see Adelaide, Collingwood Geelong and Hawthorn heading south next year
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yeah after last weeks effort by Hughie I hope he can back it up for Peel next week and maybe get a go before we are done for the year.
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Well each player gets a week older ever round, so technically if you kept the same team week by week, the average age will go up by about 160 days from Round 1 to Round 23.
Probably not against Sydney though. Even though Sandilands came in, Fyfe, S Hill and Colyer were out from the previous week against Hawthorn.
I like this. Ballas has mostly played in a side the last few years resembling a flayed horse. He doesn't do well in bad sides because he demands perfect delivery and opportunity. This includes Peel. Other players can make something out of nothing, whereas Ballas at his best could make the good ones look really, really good.
Maybe better delivery from Hill, Walters and a few others and he might at least get amongst more than expected.
Right, that makes sense. Where did you hear Prior's comments, are they available online?
I would like to see Carter and Sturt slotted in one at a time for a game each to see how they go at the top level.
They both look like they offer a bit of class and x factor, Sturt particularly could be the type to bring a bit of spark up forward.
They both look like they offer a bit of class and x factor, Sturt particularly could be the type to bring a bit of spark up forward.
he was interviewed on ABC radio (720) yesterday (saturday) - came on just after 11am if i recall so about halfway thru the show.
He also thinks Duursma is a small forward...
Can you not see the game plan is cooked? We have no forward set up at all regardless of who is available and continually just kick the ball long to a contest. Getting absolutely nothing from a top 5 talent in Cerra and McCarthy has been dropped yet again even though he has shown he is capable of kicking goals. Add in the fact we are playing three rucks one of which has at best 4 games left in his career.
Who cares if we scrape into the top 8, surely you can see that the game plan of kick it long and hope will not take us to a premiership. Teams are just so much better organised down back, the slow ball movement and long kick is exactly what every single team in the comp would like going into their defensive 50. I guarantee if you asked Ross what he would like coming into our D50 it would be that style, yet thats the style we choose going forward? Its insane.
Ain't pretty viewing for us is it? Only one of those 4 to still be in a rebuild (could argue WB I suppose) and we're probably just about ahead of Brisbane with only one 'hit' and Bewley/Cerra potentials. You need only go back one more year and Brisbane arguably outscore us with McCluggage, Berry and Witherden vs Logue, Darcy and Ryan. Sydney Stack is another for Richmond of course.
These teams are all probably ahead of us atm in experienced talent so if they've got the better youth as well I can't really see anyway for us to jump them.
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4 small forwards and 3 giants is something I can't remember us going with. It's a change in tactics. A different game plan, something that some on here have been banging on about for months.
I think 99.9% of Freo fans would love to see us scrape into the finals.
That’s been said about Hawthorn for years now.
I am glad to see us try something different. With the personnel available and the Bulldog’s small team, it is worth a try. I don’t think we are any chance of finals, but we should be still trying.
