Review Round 23 = Collingwood 100-124 Brisbane Lions

[jakson68]

I loved what Cox brought in the ruck, I think he is a decent tap ruckman and must stay in the side.

This may not be popular, as he is a fan favorite but Talor Adams may cost us a final with his disposal.
His disposal has always been a worry but I think it has got worse.

I would rather Macrae come in for him.
I know it is too late in the year for change now but next year he may need to make way.

 

[Soaring Magpie]

No team has gone on to winning the premiership after losing 2 out of their last 3 in the last month of the H&A

What a pointless comment.
A- it’s means nothing in 2023 and the fight for the premiership.
B- we win next week and we are 2 from our last 3.

 

[migz]

What happened to the pies that would fight til the very end?

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I don't subscribe to the idea that tonight was a must-win, but my metric going into this game was to lose by under 20 points. So in my mind, tonight was a failure.

I don't care about finishing first, but I care about finishing top two. Now I turn my attention to the last game of the round and hope Freo beats Port, because while I originally thought the gap in percentage was too great I'm questioning it.

Tonight was the largest score conceded under McRae, and the third time in a row we've conceded beyond 100 points. Our percentage in R18 was at 139%. We now are at 123.20%. To concede just under 16% in 5 weeks is shocking. Our backline is probably the worst I've seen it in a long, long time.

Decision-making was extremely costly, particularly kicks inside 50. That Howe kick to Ginnivan makes me shudder thinking about it. That McCreery kick to Howe at the start of the fourth makes me shudder even more because that's what began the Brisbane run.

Emblematic of our loss of connection is that tonight was WHE's 200th game, an underrated servant of the club who is a regular whipping boy. Right at the end NO ONE yelled out or gestured to him to just STOP and go back and take a goal for his 200th. They were happy to have him turn 90 degrees and kick to McCreery as the siren rang.

We go into next week against a Bombers outfit that now has Draper back and may potentially be playing for its season depending on the result against GWS. We go into next week not knowing if De Goey or Hill will be fit to play, not knowing if Murphy will be fit to play, sweating on if Elliott has a delayed concussion, and likely missing McCreery through a dangerous tackle suspension.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

We should probably go Cox 1 out as the ruck vs Essendon to see what that’s like.

We looked way too slow tonight, not enough runners.

 

[jimmy35]

Forget about Lions winning the flag. I couldn’t stomach seeing Joey Daniher and Zorko running around with the Cup.

I think you’re safe.

 

[HFF]

This was actually a better performance than last week as funny as it sounds based on the weaknesses we need to address and that is clearance, centre clearances and scores from clearances.

I’m pretty sure we broke even or may have bettered them in those categories looking at the numbers and did so minus a couple of our prime movers.

Pendles is starting to purr.

 

[Looney]

Yeah the young man looked lost and wasn’t ready, but he’ll come good

I have no idea why he was selected in the first place. I've watched all the reserves games this year and I didn't see anything to suggest he deserved a call up.

 

[Kes1984]

If we are to go deep in September, match committee will have to make some hard calls.

Hill/JDG/Moore/Daicos all need to be in this side on Prelim Final weekend - don’t think we can have all of Howe/Adams/Mitchell/WHE in this side. 2 of that 4 probably need to miss.

If we get to Prelims. What I just saw doesn’t give me much confidence.

 

[CanadianPie]

I will say, Brisbane scored 82 points from turnover, which I thought was our strength, they smashed us in that, and also ground balls, which we also seem to have been struggling with the last few weeks as well.

 

[stormskye]

I don't subscribe to the idea that tonight was a must-win, but my metric going into this game was to lose by under 20 points. So in my mind, tonight was a failure.

I don't care about finishing first, but I care about finishing top two. Now I turn my attention to the last game of the round and hope Freo beats Port, because while I originally thought the gap in percentage was too great I'm questioning it.

Tonight was the largest score conceded under McRae, and the third time in a row we've conceded beyond 100 points. Our percentage in R18 was at 139%. We now are at 123.20%. To concede just under 16% in 5 weeks is shocking. Our backline is probably the worst I've seen it in a long, long time.

Decision-making was extremely costly, particularly kicks inside 50. That Howe kick to Ginnivan makes me shudder thinking about it. That McCreery kick to Howe at the start of the fourth makes me shudder even more because that's what began the Brisbane run.

Emblematic of our loss of connection is that tonight was WHE's 200th game, an underrated servant of the club who is a regular whipping boy. Right at the end NO ONE yelled out or gestured to him to just STOP and go back and take a goal for his 200th. They were happy to have him turn 90 degrees and kick to McCreery as the siren rang.

We go into next week against a Bombers outfit that now has Draper back and may potentially be playing for its season depending on the result against GWS. We go into next week not knowing if De Goey or Hill will be fit to play, not knowing if Murphy will be fit to play, sweating on if Elliott has a delayed concussion, and likely missing McCreery through a dangerous tackle suspension.

And we go into finals having made the top 2.

 

[anshell]

Before anyone gets too downhearted about this game and wants to wave the white flag already,I would just say this.What did we exactly have to play for tonight?We’ve got a top two spot wrapped up and we clearly rested players.The Lions on thr other hand had everything to play for,the prospect of two home finals at their beloved Gabba for a start.I think people under estimate the importance of motivation in games.

 

[3rdMan]

Lost three of our last four games, and easily beaten by Brisbane twice this year. I’m shattered. Trying to find something positive to say, but struggling. We needed to make a statement tonight and we didn’t. I know we had injuries but Brisbane could have won by a lot more. Hope hanging by a thread now.

We really didn't need to. This game was fairly meaningless for us. A large part of why we were always likely to lose. I'd wait for meaningful games (finals) before getting too upset.

 

[NMBB]

A lot of us Collingwood supporters are delusional flogs.

It's a form of evolution - adapting to the environment to be able to pass on the agony to another generation

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Is there a spot in this side for Adams unless he’s in a lock down tagging role? Probably should look at it vs Ess. He has the strength.

Looks lost otherwise.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Pies looking sweet the way I see things. Some here will look like complete fools after we win the cup.
Bring on the MCG

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

If we get to Prelims. What I just saw doesn’t give me much confidence.

Well take Daicos out if that list because he won’t be fit for the qualifying.

Hill/JDG/Moore are 3 to come in for week 1.
A couple of the plodders will need to go.

 

[Pendlebeams]

The doomsdayers need to seriously chill.

Tonight for us was like Brisbane missing Neale, Dunkley and Harris Andrews

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Harris Andrews

Age

28

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

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Pressure was well and truly there and we we didn't get smacked at a ground that naturally negates our true style and suits Brisbane's. The boys have their eyes on the prize and our guns will get us there.

We've also given Bris a free path to the GF at the G where they turn to shit. All we gotta do is get there and it's ours for the taking.

 

[Lifelong Pie]

It won’t be so pointless when we bundle out of the finals in straight sets.

It's pretty pointless because of we win next week we won't have lost two of the last 3

 

[Looney]

Before anyone gets too downhearted about this game and wants to wave the white flag already,I would just say this.What did we exactly have to play for tonight?We’ve got a top two spot wrapped up and we clearly rested players.The Lions on thr other hand had everything to play for,the prospect of two home finals at their beloved Gabba for a start.I think people under estimate the importance of motivation in games.

I don't mind the loss so much but it's the injuries that keep mounting at the wrong time of the year.

 

[Hazz]

Lost three of our last four games, and easily beaten by Brisbane twice this year. I’m shattered. Trying to find something positive to say, but struggling. We needed to make a statement tonight and we didn’t. I know we had injuries but Brisbane could have won by a lot more. Hope hanging by a thread now.

Injuries to Murph and probably Elliot will put the wind up a few players as well. Hoping it does not result in preservation footy next week as we will get spanked.

 

[Chronz]

Cursed. End of H&A injuries building after a good year. Dunno how they do it.

 

[Pera]

Before anyone gets too downhearted about this game and wants to wave the white flag already,I would just say this.What did we exactly have to play for tonight?We’ve got a top two spot wrapped up and we clearly rested players.The Lions on thr other hand had everything to play for,the prospect of two home finals at their beloved Gabba for a start.I think people under estimate the importance of motivation in games.

Resting players in the middle of an obvious slump is fraught with danger.

Can't just click in finals when players are under done.

 

[OEP MKII]

we dont even know what it is

Maybe he's sick of being punched in the head and not receiving a free kick.

 

[wcv1475]

I said it in game day thread not doom and gloom, but gee Midfield is a massive worry we can't get on top so put pressure on defenders with quick clearances. Are they too old? Pendles was our best, at tail end of carreer, surely we can't keep Mitchell and Adams(horrific disposal) and in both are slow as is Lipinski, but it is to late in season to try some youngsters so they have to figure something out, i do have faith in coaching staff so lets see what they come up with