Autopsy Round 4, 2023: St.Kilda v Gold Coast

[Browny2Carlisle]

No really my god
Imagine when he has played 50 to 60 games
He is made for the MCG in September

Just checked and Owens is rank 15 in the comp for contested possessions. Everyone else around him is a full time mid. BEAST

 

[ScrappyDo]

Love the coaches getting around Bytel

The poor bastard can't cop a break.

 

[stavro#4]

I'm still a bit haunted by what Melbourne did to us in the preseason. I'm looking forward to seeing us play against Pies, Swans, Dees, Brissy, Carlton types.

Sydney play a similar very system driven team game and made it to a GF last year with a pile of hard working kids. I can see us being able to match that sort of performance if everything falls into place. Hopefully it's a year with no stand out side and we can Bulldogs Bradbury it.

If we were fully fit.

The Dees scare me. Mids too good.

Sydney. Good team. Great system.

The others you listed. I think we could go toe to toe.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

I think our field kicking has improved, but only because of our game plan. Being directed to kick 20 to 30 metre manageable kicks, not over kick it.
Our hands in tight are very good, special mention to Clark & Crouch.
And our fitness & gut running, makes us look quicker, I think. Byrnes is genuinely quick though.

 

[The Cobra]

just shows how good this kid is going to be - he was named best on ground by a few football commentators today - so how good is he going to be - frightening for other teams.

Yes he was fantastic!

Early prediction - he will get that nut case Maynard next game who will be right into him.

I’m sure RTB will prepare him & the team need to be prepared to support him if required. Part of his education & he will work his way through it.

 

[gringo2011]

No really my god
Imagine when he has played 50 to 60 games
He is made for the MCG in September

I'm so burnt by disappointment that I don't want to get too excited but every week he goes up a level. He's making it very hard to stay contained.

● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Bounces Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Time On Ground % Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Goals Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Marks Inside 50 Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Score Involvements Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Hitouts Per Game ● Ranked 4th among rising stars in Tackles Inside 50 Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Goal Assists Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Handballs Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Marks Per Game ● Ranked 7th among rising stars in Metres Gained Per Game ● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Tackles Per Game ● Ranked 10th among rising stars in Inside 50s Per Game ● Ranked 10th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game ● Ranked 18th in Contested Marks Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Contested Marks ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Goals ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Marks Inside 50 ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Score Involvements ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Time On Ground % ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Goal Assists ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Hitouts ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Marks ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Tackles Inside 50 ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Disposals ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Handballs ● Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Metres Gained ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Turnovers ● Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Inside 50s ● Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Kicks ● Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Tackles ● Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Clangers ● Ranked 8th among rising stars in Total Stoppage Clearances ● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances ● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions ● Ranked 10th among rising stars in Total One Percenters ● Ranked 10th in Total Contested Marks ● Ranked 13th in Total Tackles Inside 50 ● Ranked 14th in Total Goals ● Ranked 15th in Total Bounces ● Ranked 15th in Total Contested Possessions ● Ranked 19th in Total Marks Inside 50

 

[Premium]

The suns early showed the comp how to beat it- you need to pass the ball lightning quick and practically flawlessly up the field before we get a chance to set up our zone.

Suns weren't good enough to sustain it- but they definately cracked us open (early stages) more than any other team so far

Touk Miller is a star , some teams last year had no answer to him so the double teamed him - he is one of the few midfielders who can get the hard ball as well as the elite speed to tear you apart on the outside - look at Neale , Tom Mitchell teams didn't even worry about tagging them - tonight he had 16 contested possessions out of 32 and his defensive efforts are not recognized by a lot of people - just look at that diving spoil saving a goal , so for us to quell his effectiveness was pretty good / he had a great game but it could of been more damaging.
If Miller was playing for a good team he would already have a Brownlow - however like Basket ball - if your team mate's don't finish off your work you don't get the assist.

Oliver is a contested beast and is just about the best in the game , but he has not got that break away speed as Miller and few have that can always win the hardball.

Our midfield is basically the blue collar hard workers with Steele , Crouch and Ross - but throwing Sinclair into the middle to me smoked the game with the efforts and hard work from Crouch , Ross and Clark.

Having Windhager - who has not been left to play a free running role yet will surprise everyone when he is allowed to - he is just doing the graft at the moment and having Owens in there , plus Pou is just mind blowing how good we could be.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Mowman has gone full Taxi Driver over Owens and frankly I’m disgusted.
I loved him first.

 

[gringo2011]

From about half way through the game against Essendon you could see Stocker change through his gears. Something clicked. He'd been solid and dour before that, but he hit another vibe in that game. He is looking like a very astute pick up.

I think you're right. It's the ability to gear change that sets him apart. Wood and Stocker set the tone in the last quarter last week. Stocker really put the foot down a few times again tonight and made a huge impact, mostly when we needed a boost. Could be a very good find.

 

[sauce_head]

Difference is, those wins were a one quarter sugar hit.
Was never going to be sustainable To keep winning like that, as we saw eventually.

This year we are playing complete games - effort 100% of the time.
And don’t ever look like turning up our toes.
Chalk and cheese.

I think we are saying the same thing.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

Owens my god he is a brut
Really could be anything

What a brilliant pickup from left field!

 

[CursingFijian]

Mitch Owens is going to be elite very soon, he's the new Nat Fyfe.

Did you know that David King discovered him?

 

[George]

The head is sancrocent now and apologies for my spelling. In your opion does McKay deserve a week?

It’s a legal minefield now and more to come

Get in the disco you reprobate

 

[Premium]

The suns early showed the comp how to beat it- you need to pass the ball lightning quick and practically flawlessly up the field before we get a chance to set up our zone.

Suns weren't good enough to sustain it- but they definately cracked us open (early stages) more than any other team so far

Touk Miller is a star , some teams last year had no answer to him so the double teamed him - he is one of the few midfielders who can get the hard ball as well as the elite speed to tear you apart on the outside - look at Neale , Tom Mitchell teams didn't even worry about tagging them - tonight he had 16 contested possessions out of 32 and his defensive efforts are not recognized by a lot of people - just look at that diving spoil saving a goal , so for us to quell his effectiveness was pretty good / he had a great game but it could of been more damaging.
If Miller was playing for a good team he would already have a Brownlow - however like Basket ball - if your team mate's don't finish off your work you don't get the assist.

Oliver is a contested beast and is just about the best in the game , but he has not got that break away speed as Miller and few have that can always win the hardball.

Our midfield is basically the blue collar hard workers with Steele , Crouch and Ross - but throwing Sinclair into the middle to me smoked the game with the efforts and hard work from Crouch , Ross and Clark.

Having Windhager - who has not been left to play a free running role yet will surprise everyone when he is allowed to - he is just doing the graft at the moment and having Owens in there , plus Pou is just mind blowing how good we could be.

Yes he was fantastic!

Early prediction - he will get that nut case Maynard next game who will be right into him.

I’m sure RTB will prepare him & the team need to be prepared to support him if required. Part of his education & he will work his way through it.

I doubt Maynard actual knows how hard the kid attacks the football as a forward - he is going to be surprised - not many forwards win 19 contested possessions and with added confidence - Maynard is need to be at the top of game , but whatever happens Owens will be giving it.

 

[Munga]

Hey, how good is it to see some old names back on the forum again?! Good vibes.

 

[Premium]

Did you know that David King discovered him?

a year after Saints BF announced him.

 

[George]

Just checked and Owens is rank 15 in the comp for contested possessions. Everyone else around him is a full time mid. BEAST

****ing dirty

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

Did you know that David King discovered him?

Like Lobb unfortunately

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Had a few pints so might be harping on a bit, but it wouldn't be ridiculous to think that at the moment, the top 5 of our BnF voting would be:

Wood
Sinclair
Marshall
Wilkie
Crouch

We literally payed 0 draft picks for that top 5.

 

[sauce_head]

I'm so burnt by disappointment that I don't want to get too excited but every week he goes up a level. He's making it very hard to stay contained.

● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Bounces Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Time On Ground % Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Goals Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Marks Inside 50 Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Score Involvements Per Game ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Hitouts Per Game ● Ranked 4th among rising stars in Tackles Inside 50 Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Goal Assists Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Handballs Per Game ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Marks Per Game ● Ranked 7th among rising stars in Metres Gained Per Game ● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Tackles Per Game ● Ranked 10th among rising stars in Inside 50s Per Game ● Ranked 10th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game ● Ranked 18th in Contested Marks Per Game ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Contested Marks ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Goals ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Marks Inside 50 ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Score Involvements ● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Time On Ground % ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Goal Assists ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Hitouts ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Marks ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score ● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Tackles Inside 50 ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Disposals ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals ● Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Handballs ● Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Metres Gained ● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Turnovers ● Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Inside 50s ● Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Kicks ● Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Tackles ● Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Clangers ● Ranked 8th among rising stars in Total Stoppage Clearances ● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances ● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions ● Ranked 10th among rising stars in Total One Percenters ● Ranked 10th in Total Contested Marks ● Ranked 13th in Total Tackles Inside 50 ● Ranked 14th in Total Goals ● Ranked 15th in Total Bounces ● Ranked 15th in Total Contested Possessions ● Ranked 19th in Total Marks Inside 50

Ranked 18th in most preferable jumper for rising star media backed success.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

Get in the disco you reprobate

 

[St Neil]

Stoked that I live in SA and have tickets to the Gather Round next weekend. I’ll get to see Owens in the flesh

The only downside to tongiht was Bytel getting injured and the travesty that is Paddy McCartin. It’s honestly a disgrace the AFL let him continue his career after what he suffered with us.


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It’s fair to say that the Collingwood v St Kilda match should be a sell-out.

What a game that should be. Match of the season.

If we win that then we are a fair dinkum contender. Tonight convinced me that something amazing is happening with this team, and that they believe it as well.

 

[Premium]

All the smart supporters are. The Mccartins and in particular the one who’s had 8 concussions, surely someone steps in and says it’s time. Duty of care!!

I think the Saints told him.

 

[Minga]

Stocker has been a very good pick
Really fitting in well in the back 6

Couldn’t agree more, but I’m gonna put my hand up and say that I need someone to explain to me what his role actually is?

Is he a lock down defender? An interceptor? Rebound of the HBF? Jack of all trades? I think he’s doing a terrific job but I haven’t been able to put my finger on it yet, who competes for his spot, Coffield? Highmore?

Regardless, love his grunt. Heart and soul player already, sticks up for his team mates without a second thought. 26 disposals, 7 marks. Many ticks of approval.

 

[moirae42]

I'm still a bit haunted by what Melbourne did to us in the preseason. I'm looking forward to seeing us play against Pies, Swans, Dees, Brissy, Carlton types.

Sydney play a similar very system driven team game and made it to a GF last year with a pile of hard working kids. I can see us being able to match that sort of performance if everything falls into place. Hopefully it's a year with no stand out side and we can Bulldogs Bradbury it.

We didn't play anything like this system when we played melbourne.

Nothing like it.