Preview Round 13 2024 AFL Season: St.Kilda Saints v Gold Coast Suns, Saturday 8th of June 7:30pm, Marvel Stadium

[SG34]

My guess is that they can't bank on Crouch yet. As for Ross, he is there for structure, like a mid version of Zaine Cordy

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Zaine Cordy

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

180.4

3star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.9

3star

MG

180.4

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

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I don't think that there would be a question about whether he wasn't amount the best two mids we had in '23. He played against the Suns twice last year for 34 and 28 disposals, so I doubt it is a match up thing.

 

[Coconut_twirl]

Bollocks

I know. My comment was tongue in cheek for his non selection this week. Crouch should be in, but apparently not best 22 according to selection committee this week.

 

[D2D3]

Ross really hates playing more than one half decent inside midfielder in his teams huh?

 

[Coconut_twirl]

Ross really hates playing more than one half decent inside midfielder in his teams huh?

Wanting that top 5 pick?

 

[TheJackal]

I'm genuinely surprised Bonner survived the cut, and Butler/Ross must be considering themselves lucky.

Who are Sandy playing this week, pretty excited to watch the further development of the U24s again.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

I'm genuinely surprised Bonner survived the cut, and Butler/Ross must be considering themselves lucky.

Who are Sandy playing this week, pretty excited to watch the further development of the U24s again.

Gold Coast at RSEA Park at 12.05pm on Saturday

Brions next week up in Brisbane on the Saturday

 

[mad-saint-guy]

My guess is that they can't bank on Crouch yet. As for Ross, he is there for structure, like a mid version of Zaine Cordy.

I don't think that there would be a question about whether he wasn't amount the best two mids we had in '23. He played against the Suns twice last year for 34 and 28 disposals, so I doubt it is a match up thing.

How many teams play a midfielder who doesn't get the ball or stop the opposition from getting the ball for "structure"?

 

[SG34]

How many teams play a midfielder who doesn't get the ball or stop the opposition from getting the ball for "structure"?

Fair question, but it looks like a Ross move and resonates so much with Zaine Cordy selections so far. Somehow, Ross (as in Seb) offers something to the mechanics of the whole thing, like a tiny washer between a spring and a nut, that allows the clock to tick…
It does seem kinda odd that Seb gets a handful of touches and survives. He is an incredible survivor that way. I thought he would have been let go years ago. But ‘22 and ‘23, does just enough to survive.

The only alternative theory I can think of is some contract shenanigans-conspiracy theory, and I hope I ain’t thinking about them things anymore!, silliness.

I am trying to stay sensible.

 

[Premium]

How many teams play a midfielder who doesn't get the ball or stop the opposition from getting the ball for "structure"?

Joke , he has been a liability - structure / well you can see our weakest link has been the midfield and he has been one of the reasons we are under achieving - for sure he has been a club champion , but clearly he is not up to standard in today's game.

He was needed for sure due to the lack of experience we had in the midfield due to the injuries , but now having Clark , Dow and now Crouch - really he should be pushed out of the side.
To me he is still to good to dis-guard and I would make him the sub / he is above the VFL but he just is not up to the best AFL mids and would be a very handy sub.

 

[Premium]

Fair question, but it looks like a Ross move and resonates so much with Zaine Cordy selections so far. Somehow, Ross (as in Seb) offers something to the mechanics of the whole thing, like a tiny washer between a spring and a nut, that allows the clock to tick…
It does seem kinda odd that Seb gets a handful of touches and survives. He is an incredible survivor that way. I thought he would have been let go years ago. But ‘22 and ‘23, does just enough to survive.

The only alternative theory I can think of is some contract shenanigans-conspiracy theory, and I hope I ain’t thinking about them things anymore!, silliness.

I am trying to stay sensible.

Club Champion , good guy and they are finding hard to tell him he is not good enough.
Tough call for a guy who is in the last year of his contract , most probably wanting a extension---- so being dropped now would basically finish his career.

Offering something like mechanics , well we need a far better part.

 

[Sully111]

Fair question, but it looks like a Ross move and resonates so much with Zaine Cordy selections so far. Somehow, Ross (as in Seb) offers something to the mechanics of the whole thing, like a tiny washer between a spring and a nut, that allows the clock to tick…
It does seem kinda odd that Seb gets a handful of touches and survives. He is an incredible survivor that way. I thought he would have been let go years ago. But ‘22 and ‘23, does just enough to survive.

The only alternative theory I can think of is some contract shenanigans-conspiracy theory, and I hope I ain’t thinking about them things anymore!, silliness.

I am trying to stay sensible.

Or... the coaching group are dickheads

 

[Oh When the Saints]

I reckon they are still not 100% convinced on Crouch's match fitness. That was the vibe from RTB's press conference.

We can't afford to carry too many slower inside blokes and they need to be cherry ripe when they come in. Based on the VFL, Crouch is still not quite there. Harder to change a team off a good win too. Ross gets a last chance to hold his place in the side.

 

[Premium]

I reckon they are still not 100% convinced on Crouch's match fitness. That was the vibe from RTB's press conference.

We can't afford to carry too many slower inside blokes and they need to be cherry ripe when they come in. Based on the VFL, Crouch is still not quite there. Harder to change a team off a good win too. Ross gets a last chance to hold his place in the side.

Crouch getting 30+ touches in a couple VFL games is more than enough to show he is ready to go - they just can't have Seb Ross and Crouch in the same team - IMO Crouch should be straight back into the team.

 

[jwint43]

Can only assume they want to wait on Crouch until he's truly 100%, as we cost him half a season by rushing him back. Even without him, we are a way better midfield with Clark and Dow. I will readily admit I have never given up on Clark after seeing what he was doing in 2020/21 before his first major injury, and I still think he provides a point of difference with his creativity in close. Will be keen to see how we go against the super talented midfield from GC.

 

[Premium]

Can only assume they want to wait on Crouch until he's truly 100%, as we cost him half a season by rushing him back. Even without him, we are a way better midfield with Clark and Dow. I will readily admit I have never given up on Clark after seeing what he was doing in 2020/21 before his first major injury, and I still think he provides a point of difference with his creativity in close. Will be keen to see how we go against the super talented midfield from GC.

I hope Clark shows what he is capable of , we need him too.

 

[jwint43]

I hope Clark shows what he is capable of , we need him too.

He has elite poise and decision making, but I feel he's kind of sacrificed that to be a contested ball winner and extractor in the last couple of seasons. Not saying he's anywhere nearly Pendles obviously but he has shown that ability to slow the game down to his pace. I hope he can get that confidence back, he had moments against West Coast where he displayed his full talent outside of the contest stuff.

 

[stfan]

No Crouch, but looks like Crows are trying to out tank us by going down to the Tigers.

Upside is our Second Round pick tied to them becomes more valuable.

Downside our first round pick may slide up the ladder.

 

[beside the seaside]

Crouch getting 30+ touches in a couple VFL games is more than enough to show he is ready to go - they just can't have Seb Ross and Crouch in the same team - IMO Crouch should be straight back into the team.

Ross had zero CBAs last week.

 

[Cairnsman]

You know who is never injured and has full confidence in his body? Cooper Sharman.

It's just so unfortunate he's no good at AFL level.

 

[Saintbloke]

I reckon they are still not 100% convinced on Crouch's match fitness. That was the vibe from RTB's press conference.

We can't afford to carry too many slower inside blokes and they need to be cherry ripe when they come in. Based on the VFL, Crouch is still not quite there. Harder to change a team off a good win too. Ross gets a last chance to hold his place in the side.

Pretty obvious that Crouch's knee is an issue as far as seeing out game at senior level- ok at VFL level with less physical intensity, so they are taking no risks.

 

[gringo2011]

Ross had zero CBAs last week.

Seemed to be across HB and then moved forward late.

 

[BigPowerForward]

It's just so unfortunate he's no good at AFL level.

The mysteries of life.

1.Why do I keep finding crumbs in the cutlery draw, even though everything I put in there is clean

2. Why do I keep putting money on the Saints when they are heavy favourites, even though I know they will probably shit the bed.
3. Why do I keep reading Cairnsman's posts, even though I know they will somehow pot Sharman.

On another topic, I'm keen to start a new group called "meet thy maker"
Schoenmaker that is. RTB get him into the team somehow. Last week one of his kickouts reached the wing, and he can pass the ball 50m without issue. He has to get a run before the end of the season. Surely!

 

[BrutThough]

Seb has played wing/half fwd the past 2 games with no CBAs.

While I agree he's lucky to stay in after his performance, he's not a like-for-like role replacement for Crouch based on the past few games.

 

[GTrains Love Child]

Seemed to be across HB and then moved forward late.

Was seeing him start on the wing an awful lot too, just sort of milling around the contest without actually being in it

 

[moirae42]

Crouch was pretty gassed in the last quarter of the Sandy game last week. Still got it a few times, but was laboring to stoppages. Borderline at worst.