Preview Round 8 Faceoff: GWS Giants v Adelaide @ Spotless Stadium

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GWS Giants (5th, 5-2, 117.45%) v Adelaide (4th, 5-2, 123.60%)

Venue: Sydney Showgrounds

When: Saturday, 23 May @ 1:40pm CST (2:10pm EST)

Betting: GWS Giants $1.64 ($1.92 -7.5 points), Adelaide $2.25 ($1.92, +7.5 points).

Injuries:

GWS Giants
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Adelaide

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It’s fair to say we’ve handled the Giants fairly comfortably in the past. Unbeaten and an average winning margin of 86.6 points per game against an opposition club would have to be an AFL record.

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The Giants are a completely different beast this year, currently 5-2, 5th on the ladder with a win against the reigning premiers.

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On the weekend they utterly destroyed a pathetic Carlton side in one of the most one sided contests in many years. The 78 point margin flattered the Blues. Some of the statistics are mind blowing.

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40 scoring shots to 12, 80 inside 50s to 32. At least Carlton won the clanger count.


Carlton’s heat map even more ugly than the stat sheet. 75% of their possessions in their back half!

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I’m not sure if GWS have a weakness. Only inexperience and inconsistency could cost them a finals spot this year.

Patful, Shaw, Haynes and Davis is a solid defensive unit. Patful was such a smart buy in the off season. Easy trade to make, dual best and fairest winner, plenty of experience in an area they lacked.

The midfield is complete. Mumford, Griffen, Shiel, Treloar, Greene, Scully, Coniglio, Whitfield, Hoskin-Elliot, Smith and Ward will dominate the comp for years. They also have Sumner, Pickett, Kelly, Steele, Lamb and Hampton just waiting incase an injury occurs.

Then we get to the forward line. If you had to start an AFL club from scratch, Cameron would be close to the first pick. He had a quiet 2014 after an AA 2013 year, but he’s back to his best. Cameron McCarthy continuing the trend of moppy hair = gun footballer. Showed potential in Round 23 last year, and has so far kicked 17 goals and currently =12th in the coleman. The perfect back up for Jeremy. You’d also have to wonder what Collingwood were thinking not electing to pick James Stewart as a father son. Another mobile, skillful forward. They also have 198cm, 103kg number 1 pick monster that would love to get a better run with injuries. Imagine how imposing the forward targets will be with all 4 firing.

This all sounds a bit scary. I think I’ve just talked myself into picking them.

We’re not going too badly either. With a very even competition, you’d never sneeze at a 5-2 start. However, outside of the first two weeks, we’ve just been going through the motions a bit. A terrible performance against the Dogs followed by a wasteful and inaccurate showdown had us back with the pack. The GC and StK matches have hardly been inspiring, but a wins a win.

We’re a very hard team to place at the moment. So far I’d say we’ve improved, our defensive application and press is clearly a step up from 2014. But poor starts and shocking execution by foot clearly cost us v Port and have prevented us from really finishing off Gold Coast and St Kilda. Four of our five wins have been against sides we defeated in 2014, and the other is Melbourne. We really haven’t been able to get a real gauge as to our change in results from last year. This week will be a really good test to see where we’re at. Away from home against a side flying at the moment with firepower all over the park.

I think it all depends on which GWS turns up. Prior history can be a huge mental barrier for a team or an individual athlete. An average losing margin of 86 points can’t be ignored. The last 2 weeks for GWS have been excellent, but up at Subiaco they got done by 87 points and kicked 4 goals for the game.

I think their midfield group is clearly better than the one we’ll put on the field this week. It might have been an even battle with Rory, Crouch snr and Douglas available, but their depth is incredible. It bats down to 9. We probably stop at Danger and Thommo with a smattering of promising youngsters who were criminally underplayed in 2013-14. Wright, Mackay, VB, Henerson are all B- players at best.

Our defence is exciting and the group will stick together for 10 years. Will it be able to stop Cameron, McCarthy and Stewart? Talia has done exceptionally well in this match up but I think we’ll be up against it if we can’t restrict the supply. Huge task for Lever, Kelly and Dick Cheney on Saturday.

I think our forward line is the best chance of winning on the weekend. Eddie is in career best form, Lynch clearly got a handy record against this mob and the skipper can do anything on his day. Was nice to see our Cameron hit some form last week v the Saints.

If GWS play well and are up to their best I think they’ll get the chocolates, but it’ll be tough ask for them to brush aside 3 horrendous years of history v the Crows. Mental scars and some complacency and we’re more than good enough to take advantage.

Giants by 17

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Good stuff Hank93

Gonna be interesting to see this one pan out.

They have had wins against:
St Kilda 14th
Melbourne 15th
Gold Coast 17th
Hawthorn 6th
Carlton 18th

Lost to:
Sydney 3rd
West Coast 2nd

We have wins against:
North Melbourne 9th
Collingwood 7th
Melbourne 15th
Gold Coast 17th
St Kilda 14th

Lost to:
Western Bulldogs 8th
Port 12th

We both have had lots of our wins against clubs that will finish in the bottom 4, and both teams are in the mix for finals at this early stage of the year.

Will be interesting to see how we stack up against an up and coming team like GWS, will probably be an indicator of where we are really ranked.

Win and I reckon we are firmly in the 8, lose and we might be one of those teams battling for to sneak a place in the finals at the end of the season.

Looking forward to it.
 

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Did Collingwood serious have a chance to draft James Stewart as a F/S? And instead they signed Quentin Lynch for a year and now trot out Jesse White? Wow.

Anyway, it'll be a tough game and it's hard to match up on their forwards. If we keep turning it over in the back half then they'll probably run away with it. Get the feeling we really need to win one of the next two to set us apart from the pack a bit, Freo will likely be much harder than GWS to beat.
 
Not confident.. our injuries have been cruel. Brad Crouch, Sloane, Douglas, Jaensch all out make it tough. Still, hopefully Danger and Walker can improve on their output and play more to their level. If they do I think we CAN win.
Smith is also out this week. That's a fair midfield off the park.

Think GWS will get the chocolates in this one.
 
GWS talent is ****ing frightening. The way teams are these days and in particular this season, you only have to be a centimetre off your game and you can be blown away by the top teams or crushed by a bottom team (hi Port:)). Our outs make us vulnerable to any AFL team, let alone one as talented and as up and about as GWS. GWS are rightfully short favourites with the bookies, but our forward line is in awesome form so I think we can manufacture a win.

Crows by 14.
 
Tough one to call. I don't know who I will tip yet. Very even contest and if it isn't MOTR like Drugs Are Bad Mackay? says, it should be - 4 v 5 with two young exciting sides.

EDIT: also an excellent write up Hank. And since I know you want to be a globe-trotting journalist, I will point out you've used the wrong "duel" in your write-up - you want "dual", spell-checkers won't pick that up.
 

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Tough one to call. I don't know who I will tip yet. Very even contest and if it isn't MOTR like Drugs Are Bad Mackay? says, it should be - 4 v 5 with two young exciting sides.

EDIT: also an excellent write up Hank. And since I know you want to be a globe-trotting journalist, I will point out you've used the wrong "duel" in your write-up - you want "dual", spell-checkers won't pick that up.
Hawthorn v Sydney. GF replay, 3rd v 6th, side-stories like Buddy, JPK and McGlynn,plus involves a victorian team.
 
This could be a good win against a young side that's coming good, or a bad loss where a young side rolls us badly. Given the relative standings on the ladder, and relative strengths of the forward lines, midfields and backlines, it shapes up as an even contest.

I don't feel as though our good record against them will make much of a difference this time. I don't feel good overall about this match. A month ago, I would've, but not after the Bulldogs and the Showdown. This is going to be a real test. Whether we pass it or not, we'll have to suck it up and move on to the even greater challenge of Fremantle.
 
the list of who they've beaten is a little on the soft side without trying to be disrefectful (you can only beat who is put in front of you), hawthorn aside

this game, which looked a few months ago as being an easy crows victory, is suddenly looming as a danger game and a loss of percentage not jsut possible, but likely.

i think we can win, but i don't think we will

GWS by 26
 
If Sauce can give us first use we will be in it.
If not, we will struggle containing their run; of which they have shitloads!
Hopefully theyve been reading the accolades and turn up expecting to just win. History says we smack em but this time I think the Crows will sneak home by 3 points for the 4 points.:thumbsu:
 
If Sauce can give us first use we will be in it.
If not, we will struggle containing their run; of which they have shitloads!
Hopefully theyve been reading the accolades and turn up expecting to just win. History says we smack em but this time I think the Crows will sneak home by 3 points for the 4 points.:thumbsu:

We did that against West Coast...hopefully that's been beaten out of us.
 
How are we favourites!!?? Bookies have got that terribly wrong imo.
You guys have looked pretty good this year, good enough people have started with the Top 4 talk. Plus your tall forward line is gonna stretch our back 6, which has been one of our biggest weaknesses, along with our foot skills lately. If it was an Adelaide home game I suspect it ms be reversed, but I'd currently have GWS as favourites.
 
gws have learnt from gold coast mistkes regarding list management.
if we win this I think we are locked in to play finals this season, should be a close game im tipping us maybe by a 7 points
 

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