Round 8 Trades

[SSwans2011]

You actually had a really good team. You could have just done Butters > Stack & Milera > Lloyd and kept doing 1 up and 1 down's and you'd be a top1k team by now if you didn't panic trade.

I, like many other, doubted Stack's JS. He was coming off a pretty quiet showing against Port, and Cotchin and Martin were due back soon. There was also really no reason to trade Milera. This was before he got injured. Where do you suggest the next downgrades and upgrades would come from? It's easy to say the likes of Stack, Ross and Baker would have been smart choices now. Even if I'd brought all 3 in, I would have lacked sufficient cash gen from the rookies I switched them for to have completed many upgrades.

Solid squad after round 4 imo. What made you panic? Your rank? Did you think you had to do something extreme to catch up?

Disagree. I had one good score to that point. I didn't panic. I explained why I did the trade in great detail, and still stand by it. Even if I'd downgraded and upgraded and nailed it, I'd likely be averaging similar, and be without a number of my rookies that are now ready to be cashed in.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Averaging 110 and is the 7th best ranked midfielder
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That seems to be his ceiling though. Which is a shame because he should be averaging 120 now that he's in his prime. Averaged 108 as a 20 year old 4FS.

 

[Andrew Birch]

I, like many other, doubted Stack's JS. He was coming off a pretty quiet showing against Port, and Cotchin and Martin were due back soon. There was also really no reason to trade Milera. This was before he got injured. Where do you suggest the next downgrades and upgrades would come from? It's easy to say the likes of Stack, Ross and Baker would have been smart choices now. Even if I'd brought all 3 in, I would have lacked sufficient cash gen from the rookies I switched them for to have completed many upgrades.

Disagree. I had one good score to that point. I didn't panic. I explained why I did the trade in great detail, and still stand by it. Even if I'd downgraded and upgraded and nailed it, I'd likely be averaging similar, and be without a number of my rookies that are now ready to be cashed in.

Sorry, I thought it was after Milera got injured. In that case, there was no need to do anything drastic to that team other than just standard 1up 1down upgrading to maintain normal cash gen. Upgrade Milera to the best available when he did get injured via a rookie bench downgrade. I know you don't like to hear it, but you panicked. There is no hiding from that.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I, like many other, doubted Stack's JS. He was coming off a pretty quiet showing against Port, and Cotchin and Martin were due back soon. There was also really no reason to trade Milera. This was before he got injured. Where do you suggest the next downgrades and upgrades would come from? It's easy to say the likes of Stack, Ross and Baker would have been smart choices now. Even if I'd brought all 3 in, I would have lacked sufficient cash gen from the rookies I switched them for to have completed many upgrades.

Disagree. I had one good score to that point. I didn't panic. I explained why I did the trade in great detail, and still stand by it. Even if I'd downgraded and upgraded and nailed it, I'd likely be averaging similar, and be without a number of my rookies that are now ready to be cashed in.

A lot of these Rookies are guesswork ....I agree, there was no guarantee with Stack .....also a small forward in Baker screamed high risk ....so it's nice for Coaches to tell you in hindsight .....but many of those same Coaches brought in Scott too .....so you win some & lose some

I haven't seen your side, but maybe look at some deep cutting of a non-performing premo ....trade down and strengthen your super-premos .....sometimes, go back, to go forward

I used to be a Backgammon fanatic ....in that game, you have to know when to attack & defend ....switch modes almost from throw to throw

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Not sure we'll get a 100% Whitfield .....another 85-95 score on the cards

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Andrew Birch ....Mr Whitfield is my other upgrade I outlined ....if he scores to average, I can afford him

 

[SSwans2011]

Sorry, I thought it was after Milera got injured. In that case, there was no need to do anything drastic to that team other than just standard 1up 1down upgrading to maintain normal cash gen. Upgrade Milera to the best available when he did get injured via a rookie bench downgrade. I know you don't like to hear it, but you panicked. There is no hiding from that.

Solid squad after round 4 imo. What made you panic? Your rank? Did you think you had to do something extreme to catch up?

Let's assume I didn't trade Gawn and pretty much nailed my trades from that point on:
Butters > Stack
Burgess > Hore
~$210k remaining

Milera > Lloyd
Parker > Baker
~$100k remaining

Scott > Hayes
Libba > Fyfe
~sfa remaining

My team would look like this:
Lloyd, Jones, Williams, Smith, Hore, Duursma (Collins, Clark)
Cripps, Macrae, Fyfe, Cogs, Brayshaw, Walsh, Stack, Ross (Constable, Gibbons, Hayes)
Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Dahl, Moore, Drew, Baker (Setterfield, Petruccelle)

That team averages 2246 per round. My current team (prior to making any trades this week) averages 2270 per round. I will concede that team is arguably better because there is more potential for cash gen in the rookies, but it's also assuming I absolutely nailed every single trade I made over a 3 week period. Slim chance of that.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Andrew Birch ....Mr Whitfield is my other upgrade I outlined ....if he scores to average, I can afford him

Moore > Whitfield?

I'll be doing Duursma/Scrimshaw > Whitfield when he drops to low 500k hopefully only 2 more games.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Anyway, let's assume I didn't trade Gawn and pretty much nailed my trades from that point on:
Butters > Stack
Burgess > Hore
~$210k remaining

Milera > Lloyd
Parker > Baker
~$100k remaining

Scott > Hayes
Libba > Fyfe
~sfa remaining

My team would look like this:
Lloyd, Jones, Williams, Smith, Hore, Duursma (Collins, Clark)
Cripps, Macrae, Fyfe, Cogs, Brayshaw, Walsh, Stack, Ross (Constable, Gibbons, Hayes)
Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Dahl, Moore, Drew, Baker (Setterfield, Petruccelle)

That team averages 2246 per round. My current team (prior to making any trades this week) averages 2270 per round. I will concede that team is arguably better because there is more potential for cash gen in the rookies, but it's assuming I absolutely nailed every single trade I made over a 3 week period. Slim chance of that.

Your current team is not averaging 2270 lol

That team is better than your current one.

 

[SavDog23]

Hoping Cameron has a quietish game this week and only goes ~80. Will then bring him in against the Blues and put the C on him for his 12 goal haul.

 

[Duckworthy]

Hmm. Still might lose less money than the aforementioned players.

Solid side that one. Nice work

 

[Andrew Birch]

Solid side that one. Nice work

Wish my side looked like that after Rd4

 

[SSwans2011]

You're current team is not averaging 2270 lol

That team is way better than your current one.

Going off each player's average, which I did for both teams, it is.

EDIT: Sorry, should have been clearer in last post.

 

[Duckworthy]

Wish my side looked like that after Rd4

Mine looked very similar except I had Goldy. Traded him for ROB

 

[Marlowe]

Worpel > Westhoff/Menegola
Petrucelle > Darling/TMac

 

[Andrew Birch]

Going off each players average, which I did for both teams, it is.

Haha you can't take players season averages and say that's what they are averaging for your team unless you started with all of them. Marshall for instance gave you 119, 50, 0, 108 assuming you traded him in at 340k. Only 50, 0, 108 if you traded him in at 410k. So no, he is not averaging 100.4 for your team.

Your teams average is determined by your Rd score each week.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Mine looked very similar except I had Goldy. Traded him for ROB

At least you had the sense not to trade Gawn to him.

 

[Bollox]

What a rollercoaster the GAJ trade would have been. In the end i DIDNT bring him in, and now think the gods are telling me something. His first suspension the very week i bring him in ? I would have gone off.
STILL seeing a guy in good form, and despite the age concern he can still go BIG then back it up. No bigger risk than Fyfe.
106, 103, 148, 112 and now Danger possibly out or going fwd. Selwood sore with a largely unreported issue that could be chronic based on his numbers.
I want to. Just a tad gunshy now after finding out what would have happened, then now back to him playing.
Pendles hitting some nice form too just quietly.
When these types flow they are a river.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Moore > Whitfield?

I'll be doing Duursma/Scrimshaw > Whitfield when he drops to low 500k hopefully only 2 more games.

No ...Hore to Whitfield is the plan in 2 weeks .....Moores flexibility is still valuable, as long as his average stays around that of Hore ....if Hore pulls out some BIG scores, that may require a re-think, keep Hore & do it a longer way

 

[gutsroy]

Guess this is good for Boak / Rocky holders(?) Edit: Doesn’t hurt Drew, either.






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[Northernsoul74]

Guess this is good for Boak / Rocky holders(?) Edit: Doesn’t hurt Drew, either.






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Good for Drew.

 

[SSwans2011]

Haha you can't take players season averages and say that's what they are averaging for your team unless you started with all of them. Marshall for instance gave you 119, 50, 0, 108 assuming you traded him in at 340k. Only 50, 0, 108 if you traded him in at 410k. So no, he is not averaging 100.4 for your team.

Your teams average is determined by your Rd score each week.

I agree. I admit I should have been clearer. It's a good way to measure the quality of a side though. Based on averages, from here on out I could assume my team would average more than the hypothetical team I would have if I nailed my trades. And again, that doesn't make it a better team. But again, the chances of me nailing my trades from round 4-7 were minimal at best.

I brought in Marhall the week he was a late out. It's unfortunate that he was a late out that week, but it's not like I could have predicted that I'd bring Marshall in and he'd be a late out when I made the Gawn trade lol. These things just happen in Supercoach.

 

[Andrew Birch]

What a rollercoaster the GAJ trade would have been. In the end i DIDNT bring him in, and now think the gods are telling me something. His first suspension the very week i bring him in ? I would have gone off.
STILL seeing a guy in good form, and despite the age concern he can still go BIG then back it up. No bigger risk than Fyfe.
106, 103, 148, 112 and now Danger possibly out or going fwd. Selwood sore with a largely unreported issue that could be chronic based on his numbers.
I want to. Just a tad gunshy now after finding out what would have happened, then now back to him playing.
Pendles hitting some nice form too just quietly.
When these types flow they are a river.

How good would it be to have GAJ, Pendles & Jelwood all back in their prime again? I've been guilty of picking players for sentimental reasons before. I had Heath Shaw in my team every single year right up until this year thinking he still had 1 more SP season in him. There just comes a time when you need to put a bullet into Bambi's beautiful little heart, have her head stuffed and mounted to a wall somewhere. At his age a standard 2-4 week injury could keep GAJ out for most of the year. Don't put yourself through watching him fade away on a mid bench.

 

[Nelso]

How good would it be to have GAJ, Pendles & Jelwood all back in their prime again? I've been guilty of picking players for sentimental reasons before. I had Heath Shaw in my team every single year right up until this year thinking he still had 1 more SP season in him. There just comes a time when you need to put a bullet into Bambi's beautiful little heart, have her head stuffed and mounted to a wall somewhere. At his age a standard 2-4 week injury could keep GAJ out for most of the year. Don't put yourself through watching him fade away on a mid bench.

Scott has said that GAJ will be rested at various times during the year. Not worth the risk picking him as you just know the week he is rested there will be carnage for the the rest of your team in that same week.

 

[Judd_Magic]

Ok kenties the only trade I have locked in is Wikie > Answorth.

The other trade I am thinking of is Petrol > Corbett or Petrol > Hately via Drew but with Wines out I don't want Drew stuck at F7 as I feel he might start scoring 90's\100's again.

What's everyone think my second trade should be? If I double down this week I will have either just under or over $400,000.00.

I really want to get Fyfe, T.Kelly, Hurn, etc in ASAP but feel like this is the week for the double down with rookies coming through in the next few weeks iffy.

$261,300 in the kitty so far....