Opinion Sack Hinkley 10 - UnTENable

[Stryke]

Hear about these trips all the time but I can't remember old mate doing anything, ever, to try and better himself since deck chairs.

He did something about 2018 where it sounded like he was forced at gunpoint to learn. Think he went to the states.

 

[Kenny_Powers]

I know for a fact that the people at the club genuinely hate this response. I have been asked by a few people who were management level at the club and both of whom I actually respect, roll their eyes at this response. They are indoctrinated by the board, CEO to ask about improving the fluff element. I just say "Wi", it's that ******* simple.

This is it simply speaking for me, the club top down has become more concerned with the fluff element and game-day experience than with results and premierships. The place feels more soulless to me now than it did in 2011.

I think broadly speaking they feel they need to focus more on the elements they can control, and less on the things they can't, like results. Which is completely ass over t*t

Under Koch the place has become very business and corporate like, I understand the money side of things is paramount.....but at the cost of selling your soul??

For me ultimately it's not about the actual winning, it's about seeing the club and players doing everything they can, all the time, to bring about winning. That winning is numero uno at every level.

I couldn't give a rats about perfect pear, or NTUA or any of that.

But perhaps we're in the minority, and the masses are more geared towards 20/20 style fun.


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[bomberclifford]

You eat pieces of s**t for breakfast?

Yummmay.

 

[bomberclifford]

I know for a fact that the people at the club genuinely hate this response. I have been asked by a few people who were management level at the club and both of whom I actually respect, roll their eyes at this response. They are indoctrinated by the board, CEO to ask about improving the fluff element. I just say "Wi", it's that ******* simple.

Even if they can't win, making moves to get in a better position to win, is what keeps supporters connected.

Keeping a failed coach well past his use by date because you don't want to risk being worse than mid-tier is the exact opposite of that attitude.

Even the Crows get this.

 

[Stryke]

This is it simply speaking for me, the club top down has become more concerned with the fluff element and game-day experience than with results and premierships. The place feels more soulless to me now than it did in 2011.

I think broadly speaking they feel they need to focus more on the elements they can control, and less on the things they can't, like results. Which is completely ass over t*t

Under Koch the place has become very business and corporate like, I understand the money side of things is paramount.....but at the cost of selling your soul??

For me ultimately it's not about the actual winning, it's about seeing the club and players doing everything they can, all the time, to bring about winning. That winning is numero uno at every level.

I couldn't give a rats about perfect pear, or the NTUA or any of that.

But perhaps we're in the minority, and the masses are more geared towards 20/20 style fun.


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Theres no reason you can't do both anyway. We have just become infected with loser think.

The non-playing team SHOULD be trying to maximise the game day experience, keeping the kids entertained, giving value for money. But as we are seeing, it doesn't mean anything if the game style and win at all costs attitude isn't there.

 

[wgt]

Hinkley giving a 10 minute diatribe on why SPP is the sacrificial lamb that needs to be accepted by all for the betterment of the game has to make you sick considering that comment should never come from the coach of that player, the coach's job is to perpetually defend the player or at least say the club strongly disagree's with the judgement simply based on tribal norms. Instead we see a guy toeing the afl line rather than the club line all so he can appear to the media as a good guy that understands. And the most amazing part of it is we didnt get 5 minutes of Ken explaining anything about the last 3 season fails. And you wonder why this club has no-backbone whatsoever

 

[PowerLil]

Hinkley giving a 10 minute diatribe on why SPP is the sacrificial lamb that needs to be accepted by all for the betterment of the game has to make you sick considering that comment should never come from the coach of that player, the coach's job is to perpetually defend the player or at least say the club strongly disagree's with the judgement simply based on tribal norms. Instead we see a guy toeing the afl line rather than the club line all so he can appear to the media as a good guy that understands. And the most amazing part of it is we didnt get 5 minutes of Ken explaining anything about the last 3 season fails. And you wonder why this club has no-backbone whatsoever

The man thinks he's a student of the game. Donuts hasn't even mastered the English language.

 

[tribey]

And if we can't win then "striving to our utmost, after giving our everything..."

Not being scared of the game then standing around laughing when we lose.

Lol it’s genuinely insane, isn’t it?

Wall-to-wall loser talk and embarrassing babble prior to games (‘finals are scary/we’ll terrorise Lachie Neale with a potato who was delisted from a bongwater Freo outfit!’), followed by repeated examples of grinning and joking afterwards.

Why are people sick of eleven years of this sh¡t?

But nah Norts™ assures us this chode is ‘authentic’?

FMD, make it end.

 

[1954]

Hinkley giving a 10 minute diatribe on why SPP is the sacrificial lamb that needs to be accepted by all for the betterment of the game has to make you sick considering that comment should never come from the coach of that player, the coach's job is to perpetually defend the player or at least say the club strongly disagree's with the judgement simply based on tribal norms. Instead we see a guy toeing the afl line rather than the club line all so he can appear to the media as a good guy that understands. And the most amazing part of it is we didnt get 5 minutes of Ken explaining anything about the last 3 season fails. And you wonder why this club has no-backbone whatsoever

I have long been of the opinion that at least part of Koch's instructions from the AFL when they foisted him and his pseudo Port pedigree upon us was to eliminate the winning at all costs mantra and turn us into just another interstate franchise that is there to have occasional moderate success but ostensibly to make up the numbers, hence Hinkley throwing SPP under the bus which belongs in the same category as his `finals are scary' BS!

 

[Papa G]

Lol it’s genuinely insane, isn’t it?

Wall-to-wall loser talk and embarrassing babble prior to games (‘finals are scary/we’ll terrorise Lachie Neale with a potato who was delisted from a bongwater Freo outfit!’), followed by repeated examples of grinning and joking afterwards.

Why are people sick of eleven years of this sh¡t?

But nah Norts™ assures us this chode is ‘authentic’?

FMD, make it end.

I got 23 seconds into that clip and had to switch off. Completely nauseating. **** him and **** Ken Hinkley.

 

[malcheski]

The club just doesn't understand what business it is in.

They truly believe that H&A wins, stability and game day 'experience' are their trades, but as with all Pro-Sports, they actual deal in hope.

None of us here expect to win the flag, year after year. That is a ridiculous notion. What we are buying though is hope. Hope that we will win a flag, hope that we will improve this year, hope that player x has a breakout year etc. yet with the way the club operates, hope is all but lost, so what is left?

A disconnected, self preserving boys club slinging shit from their ivory tower, where the malaise trickles all the way into the playing group where there would be very little hope to achieve the ultimate success, rather they strive prolong their own careers and pay packets.

No change = no hope, and no hope is a death spiral for a sporting club.

 

[Ilias M]

Club finally done it, blocked my from their offfical Facebook page

They wouldn't that white noise being seen or heard

McRae has achieved more in 2 years than Hinkley has in 11

Kingsley has achieved just as much in 1 year as Hinkley has in 11

Remember when supporters would be at the club and players would have to front them after a loss back in the day.

 

[Rexie J]

Club finally done it, blocked my from their offfical Facebook page

They wouldn't that white noise being seen or heard

McRae has achieved more in 2 years than Hinkley has in 11

Kingsley has achieved just as much in 1 year as Hinkley has in 11

Remember when supporters would be at the club and players would have to front them after a loss back in the day.



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An extraordinary response from the club but I guess not unexpected.

The sad reality of just how much the management has sucked the soul out of the PAFC.

 

[tribey]

Club finally done it, blocked my from their offfical Facebook page

They wouldn't that white noise being seen or heard

McRae has achieved more in 2 years than Hinkley has in 11

Kingsley has achieved just as much in 1 year as Hinkley has in 11

Remember when supporters would be at the club and players would have to front them after a loss back in the day.



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Absolutely pathetic.

 

[klem22]

Back to the future with the biggest spud in the afl.

 

[tribey]

Anyone remember the 2018(?) mailer which was swathed with,

‘OUR PASSIONATE MEMBERS AND FANS HOLD US TO ACCOUNT! AND WE WOULDN’T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY!’

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Club finally done it, blocked my from their offfical Facebook page

They wouldn't that white noise being seen or heard

McRae has achieved more in 2 years than Hinkley has in 11

Kingsley has achieved just as much in 1 year as Hinkley has in 11

Remember when supporters would be at the club and players would have to front them after a loss back in the day.



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Just to double check, had you written anything that could be deemed offensive?

If they're really banning anybody that isn't following the cult's groupthink that's beyond pathetic.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Then why is he still our coach

Out: Hinkley (cannibalised)

 

[drcollossimo]

I'm stunned a club that gave us coaches with the likes of Cahill Williams we kept this cucumber beyond a decade


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Unless of course we don’t win then judge us on win loss over the year not finals

 

[Marmozet]

Even if they can't win, making moves to get in a better position to win, is what keeps supporters connected.

Keeping a failed coach well past his use by date because you don't want to risk being worse than mid-tier is the exact opposite of that attitude.

Even the Crows get this.

….and because they don’t want to risk having players leave, despite the fact that our player retention record was strong before Hinkley arrived.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Anyone remember the 2018(?) mailer which was swathed with,

‘OUR PASSIONATE MEMBERS AND FANS HOLD US TO ACCOUNT! AND WE WOULDN’T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY!’

Narrator: "They would."

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I have long been of the opinion that at least part of Koch's instructions from the AFL when they foisted him and his pseudo Port pedigree upon us was to eliminate the winning at all costs mantra and turn us into just another interstate franchise that is there to have occasional moderate success but ostensibly to make up the numbers, hence Hinkley throwing SPP under the bus which belongs in the same category as his `finals are scary' BS!

This really seems to be the case.

You get a guy who has sold his soul for fame and vanity on morning television and he is the perfect candidate to come in and change the culture of the club from a victorious slice of Valhalla to a vanilla franchise in the mid-stream of mediocrity.

I'm sure when he leaves, Koch hopes to get a really nice job at AFL house which will be difficult because there are a lot of these types of people around in the AFL and they are Victorian.

As I've said in previous posts, it wouldn't surprise me if Koch just does what the AFL demands of him.

As the AFL has pretty much become a corporate entity, it is not surprising to see all the clubs follow suit, even us. It was always going to be a tough job to do and the best way to destroy anything is from within and when it comes down to it, Koch is the perfect goyim for the job.

If you put Koch as the slave of the AFL, then jut every single decision he has made makes sense.

 

[Steve Dore]

He did something about 2018 where it sounded like he was forced at gunpoint to learn. Think he went to the states.

Yeah, after refusing to go on any off season educational trips CD finally managed to get him to go to the USA with Michael Voss as chaperone. It was a one off though and he has refused to do any "professional development" in the off season since. There's much more important things in life than being an AFL senior coach.

Strangely he has authored a book on 30 days in Rome.



Must have really enjoyed the reggiano and pancetta toasties.

 

[Steve Dore]

….and because they don’t want to risk having players leave, despite the fact that our player retention record was strong before Hinkley arrived.

Any player that requests a trade because of a coach leaving puts the coach ahead of the club and therefore we're better off without.

 

[Del165198]

Any player that requests a trade because of a coach leaving puts the coach ahead of the club and therefore we're better off without.

Well put but you could simplify it to say any player leaving because they want their daddy donuts is a little bitch