Opinion Sack Hinkley 11 - Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest

[tribey]

All is a very limited number when the top contributors is scanned.

Wipe your chin, Cucky McGee.

 

[Thunderer]

i dont think so, you just have to learn to say it with a straight face and with conviction. Gone are the days of people being accountable to anything they say and the general public really are beyond what you would call smart or intelligent, usually when you ask someone a question the first thing that pops in their head is what will sound like the best thing to say or what do they want me to say..... What is the right thing to say is anathema.

We don't listen. Nobody listens. Port Adelaide Fans don't listen. His "belief has always been that if Port Adelaide don't go deep this year, after twelve years, than it's probably time for a change of coach."

But he'll insult and denigrate anybody who criticises Hinkley, vehemently attack Tredrea and try to get him removed from the board and change his tune when Port Adelaide fall off a cliff and demand respect for Hinkley to coach out his contract.

No Kane, we do listen, you've changed your statements as the wind blows. I would not comment to his intelligence, but he is a really bad liar.

 

[TeeKray]

All is a very limited number when the top contributors is scanned.

Interestingly Ford Fairlane more than double as many posts as TeeKray. An impeachment needs to be considered.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Dude we'll do that many pages in a single day when he finally leaves . Hopefully your boys can assist in that regard on Saturday.

Er, while we are playing better than the start of the year, I think a lot of us are only cautiously optimistic, so don't get your hopes up too much on another nail in Hinkley's coffin getting banged in by Bevo. You guys are 3-0 in recent meetings.

 

[JimmyBC]

Sack him now he's had his breakfast.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Interestingly Ford Fairlane more than double as many posts as TeeKray. An impeachment needs to be considered.

I did not have sexual relations with that thread.

 

[Us against the rest]

We need to stick to the facts, the media thinks we are just about attacking Hinkley. At every opportunity we only need to state the facts. Finals win losses, Showdowns, win loss against top 4 clubs over the last decade without mentioning Hinkley.
Let them dispute facts only.
They will have nowhere to hide.

 

[philreich]

Er, while we are playing better than the start of the year, I think a lot of us are only cautiously optimistic, so don't get your hopes up too much on another nail in Hinkley's coffin getting banged in by Bevo. You guys are 3-0 in recent meetings.

You recently flogged Freo, who just beat Sydney - I'd say you're doing OK.

 

[MotlopRules]

With all due respect, I think you're the one with zero awareness here. Kane knows. He doesn't care.

His job is not to make factual and logically sound and consistent arguments, his job is to drive engagement. Positive or negative, doesn't matter. Every time you read or comment on a Kane Cornes article or video, even if that comment is 'you have no idea Cornes you dickhead', he wins and you lose.

Nothing makes me despair for humanity more than the amount of people who can't grasp this.

 

[GremioPower]

2015: B
2016: B
2017: B

 

[GremioPower]

All is a very limited number when the top contributors is scanned.

True to all previous threads, but not to this one.

 

[tribey]

Interestingly Ford Fairlane more than double as many posts as TeeKray. An impeachment needs to be considered.

Chief Architect of the ‘9-year BigFooty Boys Port Adelaide Hate Campaign’ (IYKYK), all the way down in fifteenth place.

 

[Stryke]

IMO:
2013: A
2014: A
2015: F
2016: F
2017: C
2018: F
2019: F
2020: A
2021: B
2022: F
2023: C
2024: D

Completely agree with these ratings and when you lay it out it's absolutely insane he survived 2015-2019. No wonder the Sack Hinkley thread started in mid 2019.

 

[geoffjennings79]

You recently flogged Freo, who just beat Sydney - I'd say you're doing OK.

And struggled to get over North. But don't get me wrong, I'm more than happy to help you guys out.
Anyway, I'll leave you all to it, I don't want to end up on GremioPower's list of top contributors!

Best of luck with the Hinkley situation.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I could go in to detail on injuries and gameplan etc.

But in short, when someone has been there 3-5 years and come off a low base, they deserve time to get there. They're still working with an inherited list and there are still fluctuations.

Its once youve been there 8+ years that a grand final appearance is the absolute minimum expectation. 10+ years its flag or **** off. In your 12th year the only acceptable result is back to back flags.

No coach should ever survive more than 8 years with no success.

 

[TazD]

 

[El_Scorcho]

That’s their big mistake. The Johnny-come-latelys and a generation of kids with 10 second attention spans will not hang around when the inevitable slide comes. Banking on them is stupid and short sighted and it will bite them on the arse.

They are burning their core supporter base, for being right mind you, and they don’t care. Yet.

Koch will 1000% dip out just as we're about to have another slide, and the media are too ****ing stupid to blame him for salting the earth to make it much more difficult for us to ride out a rebuild.

 

[GremioPower]

I could go in to detail on injuries and gameplan etc.

But in short, when someone has been there 3-5 years and come off a low base, they deserve time to get there. They're still working with an inherited list and there are still fluctuations.

Its once youve been there 8+ years that a grand final appearance is the absolute minimum expectation. 10+ years its flag or **** off. In your 12th year the only acceptable result is back to back flags.

No coach should ever survive more than 8 years with no success.

Reading the posts from back then (and, yes, I did), it’s interesting how people pointed out list mistakes, game-plan problems, and specially the “vanillarization” of the club. It all ended up getting confirmed later on.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I'd have...

2013: A
2014: A
2015: B
2016: B
2017: B
2018: D
2019: F-
2020: F
2021: F
2022: F
2023: F
2024: F

I really don't know how you can give 2015 a B. We entered the season as premiership favourites and missed the 8. Hinkley got found out hard and didn't (and we now know couldn't) adapt. The lack of bounceback in 2016 is just as bad. The laughable inability to beat anyone in the top 8 in 2017 arguably just as bad again.

I'd also give 2020 a C+, but that's mostly because of how low the bar was set coming into the season.

 

[ClintEastwood]

Reported.

 

[Sleezy]

With all due respect, I think you're the one with zero awareness here. Kane knows. He doesn't care.

His job is not to make factual and logically sound and consistent arguments, his job is to drive engagement. Positive or negative, doesn't matter. Every time you read or comment on a Kane Cornes article or video, even if that comment is 'you have no idea Cornes you dickhead', he wins and you lose.

It's the difference between lies and bullshit.

A liar knows what the truth is, and cares enough to hide it.
A bullshitter just doesn't care what is true. Truth or falsity is irrelevant to the goal they are trying to achieve (reach, entertainment, influence, power, whatever). They say whatever will help them achieve that goal.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Reading the posts from back then (and, yes, I did), it’s interesting how people pointed out list mistakes, game-plan problems, and specially the “vanillarization” of the club. It all ended up getting confirmed later on.

We were doing it in early 2014, particularly about the forward structure. We were just getting shouted down because we were winning.

 

[Coobk001]

Too high.

The Showdown and the EF loss don’t allow a C.

I'd do C- maybe.

We finished 5th, one Dixon play on call away from 2nd. It was a reasonable year from where we had been, we just choked. Ultimately that's a dissapointment, but it was an improvement and as such a C is about the range.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I really don't know how you can give 2015 a B. We entered the season as premiership favourites and missed the 8. Hinkley got found out hard and didn't (and we now know couldn't) adapt. The lack of bounceback in 2016 is just as bad. The laughable inability to beat anyone in the top 8 in 2017 arguably just as bad again.

I'd also give 2020 a C+, but that's mostly because of how low the bar was set coming into the season.

I think you give a bloke the benefit of the doubt in his third season when his first two seasons have him winning finals.

We built a paper cannon in 2013, great at its peak but no depth. Once injuries came in 2015 it made sense to take a step backwards. 2016 we didnt have a ruckman as the AFL screwed us.

Im lenient and trusting until someone proves they cant be trusted. There was more evidence of good than bad for me in those years.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I think you give a bloke the benefit of the doubt in his third season when his first two seasons have him winning finals.

We built a paper cannon in 2013, great at its peak but no depth. Once injuries came in 2015 it made sense to take a step backwards. 2016 we didnt have a ruckman as the AFL screwed us.

Im lenient and trusting until someone proves they cant be trusted. There was more evidence of good than bad for me in those years.

I was definitely much more positive in those years despite the frustrations, you figured we would probably do something as opposed to sitting on our hands for the next 9 years. Your graph basically reads as a rating of my feelings about Hinkley.