Saints Are Finished in 2011 & Beyond
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Falchoon
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Yes if only Schneider had kicked straight
Exactly...there are a lot of 'ifs' that occur in a football match.
But hey...whatever helps you sleep at night. I understand you lot are still suffering....seeing Ball in a Collingwood jumber accepting a premisership medal has to sting.
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Actually he was one of the best things to happen to the football club. Imagine if you actually had a coach during 2004 and 2005? You'd probably be gloating about more than couple of premierships now.
As it stands, you didn't win any, and you probably won't win any. Enjoy rebuilding.
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Don't you have some opposition fan to beat up?aww...does it still hurt??
Yeah...Stkilda fans...but you lot make it to easy. I'm beggining to pity you.
Why don't you tell us once again how we only beat you because of a bad bounce. Go on....please
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just because melbourne enjoys rebuilding doesnt mean the saints do.
how long has melbourne been in rebuild mode now?
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Ages, actually. We tanked, we got some nice draft pics, and now we're a side that is expected to start contesting finals over the next few seasons.
As opposed to St. Kilda, who are about to start rebuilding during compromised drafts, and have seen the best days of all their early draft picks.
Good luck with that.
Anyway, Mods, please put this thread in bay 13 where it deserves to be.
Collingwood had to burn a lot of dud father son picks to get to this point.
Under the current fair bidding process, Collingwood would have had to pay up for Travis Cloke. They would have missed out on Chris Egan or Sean Rusling.
On the other hand they would have got Heath Shaw with their last round as nobody rated him. But even assuming we were forced to miss out on an earlier pick, Bill Morrison and Brent Hall were our first two picks in that draft.
Applying the new rules to the old father son process would have made no difference.
We also paid way too much for B Shaw R Shaw C Cloke and J Cloke.
The father-son rule is just another furphy you throw around at will.
sorry guys, but you are as wrong as could be. GT could not coach. once his star studded line up (twas the best at the time) hit big finals, GT was left floundering each time.
revelation - 1st time i agree with you murray - now time for plugger
no one has suggested for a minute hayes be replaced for ball. we know hayes is better, no question. but ball had a role too, but your team & methods couldnt see it. ball as seen as surplus cos he couldnt do the marathon running that the list cloggers were doing, and moved on. and he is grateful thankyou.
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Please re-read my post.
You have misunderstood it entirely.
You have misunderstood it entirely.
Falchoon
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The father sons won you a flag Mr Goldsack/Wellingham ad infinitum.
Falchoon
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It's common sense, Hayes and Ball couldn't be played alongside each other, particularly against the quicker teams and neither has the versatility to play elsewhere.
Jude Bolton may disagree but we'll wait and see how he goes up forward longer term.
Falchoon
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absolutely, 115 wins and no flags in 8 years = all of the above
even in a vacuum
Common ground finally
Falchoon
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obviously
How can you tell it's a Saints thread?
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=820294
The Angryman hits the lead
again
It's great I can post without hitting the lead, so as I've been saying since December 09...
Collingwood fans: Obsessed with St Kilda.
Collingwood fans: Obsessed with St Kilda.
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This thread has just become silly now.
And if the umpire didn't pay the free against Mooney in the dying stages of the qualifying final, you wouldn't have even made the grand final.
See, I can play the "ifs, buts and maybes" game too.
Yeah, then we couldve seen Collingwood belt you by 80 points in the Grand Final instead of the prelim.
Hell if you wanna go with ifs/buts on that scenario, it means we would have drawn with the pies in the prelim and gone to the extra time we needed to beat them and make the grand final
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Yeah, then we couldve seen Collingwood belt you by 80 points in the Grand Final instead of the prelim.
Hell if you wanna go with ifs/buts on that scenario, it means we would have drawn with the pies in the prelim and gone to the extra time we needed to beat them and make the grand final
You've just lost us the game. Nah, you've just lost us the game. Nah, you've just lost us the game. Nah, you......
Rubbish. Just another snipe from you.
Cloke was average in the GFs accoring to all and sundry and in any case we got no better return from the F/S picks than from the draft in general. Hell we even had to go through 3 from each of the Coke and Shaw families to get 2 best 22 players and that ignores the Davis, Barham, Obourne wasted picks.
Quality drafting won the flag. Good players from all rounds of the draft including the rookie list.
This thread has gone tottally off track hahahha.
Its about the future. People have made some great points in that saints probably lacking trade value. I agree trading reiwolt would be really really rough. A lot of supporters would be unhappy and it might not be worth it. I wouldn't trade goddard he is a champion in those grand finals and still relatively young.
Its true there list is ageing and i really cant see them getting back in 2012. looks a bit similar to hawthorn and they have taken 3 years to come back (apparently). Yes there are different reasons behind there downfall.
Its about the future. People have made some great points in that saints probably lacking trade value. I agree trading reiwolt would be really really rough. A lot of supporters would be unhappy and it might not be worth it. I wouldn't trade goddard he is a champion in those grand finals and still relatively young.
Its true there list is ageing and i really cant see them getting back in 2012. looks a bit similar to hawthorn and they have taken 3 years to come back (apparently). Yes there are different reasons behind there downfall.
Falchoon
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the difference between the two teams on the last Saturday in September
was good in the first, Shaw was excellent in both
sounds like a lot of freebies, as Angry from Angrytown says, it's a numbers game
ironic considering poor drafting got you Pendlebury and Thomas.
Indeed. We learnt from our errors from seven and eight and nine years ago. We certainly invested heavily in far too many rejects and recyled players at the time. And drafted poorly both in quality and quantity. Pretty much like StKilda of 09/10. The similarities are uncanny.
At least when we went to the well for a priority pick we got it right. Plenty of other teams havent, including StKilda.
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