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A new coach could achieve wonders next year. Just look at what Hird has done!
Don't you mean what bomber has done?
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A new coach could achieve wonders next year. Just look at what Hird has done!
You never expect to have many premiership players in your team from a draft ten years ago.
Being valued suits him betterLooks like the same player to me, still lacks penetration with his kicking and still only plays limited game time due to his lack of speed and ability to cover the ground.
He has benefitted from having a good team around him, not that he didn't have that at St Kilda but maybe Collingwood's game plan or structure suits him better.
I think Goddard would be around for another tilt but it would be hard to convince Roo, Dal and Joey that they will see out a quick rebuild, say 2 years, and then still be there for the push back up.
My problem is; If Ross was to go who do we get to replace him?
So much of today's football is about IP. There is no doubt in my mind that the extra 5% gained by the Pies last year was from the addition of Ball, Hudgton and Jolly. They all possesed details of Ross, his gameplan and how to stifle his best and most important player in Riewoldt.
St.Kilda the year before were able to almost topple Geelong with the information given by Steven King and Leigh Tudor.
Is there anyone at Collingwood right now that would really leave?
but yeah, Geelong only had about 13 of them.
2004 was 6 years ago
but yeah, Geelong only had about 13 of them.
What if the saints ditched Lyon and got Roos?
With a good injury run, full pre season, why cant the saints win the flag in 2012?
- hayes back
- mcevoy and stanley reading to be ruckman
- steven, armitage, smith, cripps, lynch, siposs, heyne, winmar - youth/speed ready to go
- goddard, reiwoldt, fisher, hayes, montagna, dal santo, Gram, Gwilt, Schnieder, Milne will all be still great players, what do you think they are suddenly going to be 40 years old an useless? AND not playing finals in 2011 ALL will be fresh raring to go.
- 2 good quick players drafted this year might be all we need
This group is not done yet. laughable to suggest so. The players know it and will be back. Too many guns to give up now.
Just need R.Clarke to be consistent he is a gun when 'on' he is fast and reads play very well. He's major problem is motivation and disposal under pressure which are hard to rectify i know - but my god if he did he would make fools of all of you.
We get our best 22 on the park and some luck we could well win the 2012 flag.
Not in 2007. Their plum draft was 2001.
2004 was 6 years ago
Nice predictable response, though, shame it wasnt too well thought through.
What if the saints ditched Lyon and got Roos?
No doubt by the time we win our fourth flag in this era
I gather you don't watch 'On the Couch'
Get your hand off it mate.
****en collingwood supporters.
2007 - 2001 = /quote]
Geelongs core premiership list in 2007 was formed in 2001. They had very few players from prior to that date
Collingwoods core premiership list in 2010 was formed in 2005-6. They like Geelong had very few older players in that 8,9,10 years service bracket.
Very similar rebuilds. Collingwood actually did it quicker but only at the margin. We had a bad year and picked up Pendlebury and Thomas. Geelong had a bad year and picked up Selwood. Both Geelong and Collingwood recruited decent ruckmen. Similarities everywhere. Collingwood won a flag probably a year ahead of schedule.
With a good injury run, full pre season, why cant the saints win the flag in 2012?
No. Why?
Really? Ok, with the list you have, you may well be able to give it a crack, but Lyon really has got to try something different or be replaced. The players have lost their confidence in themselves, each other, and the game plan. Some big changes need to be made in terms of game plan and attitude for this to happen.. And the other thing is that if the Saints really do focus everything on the 2012 flag, it's going to put back their rebuild two years, and instead of getting away with a partial rebuild now and challenging again in 4 years (if lucky) they'll have to to a total rebuild and won't challence again for around 8 years at best..With a good injury run, full pre season, why cant the saints win the flag in 2012?
- hayes back
- mcevoy and stanley reading to be ruckman
- steven, armitage, smith, cripps, lynch, siposs, heyne, winmar - youth/speed ready to go
- goddard, reiwoldt, fisher, hayes, montagna, dal santo, Gram, Gwilt, Schnieder, Milne will all be still great players, what do you think they are suddenly going to be 40 years old an useless? AND not playing finals in 2011 ALL will be fresh raring to go.
- 2 good quick players drafted this year might be all we need
This group is not done yet. laughable to suggest so. The players know it and will be back. Too many guns to give up now.
We get our best 22 on the park and some luck we could well win the 2012 flag.
I don't agree. They have a very tough draw over the coming weeks, playing Carlton, Hawks, Melbourne and Freo away then the Pies. Of those games I give them a realistic chance (in their current form) of beating Melbourne, but will in all likelihood drop the other 4, which will put them at 2.5 wins after 11 rounds. They would have to win 11 straight games to be a chance of making the top four. Cannot see that happening, especially with a house as divided as theirs.Wonder why so many opposition supporters are happy to proffer what is wrong with Saints footy and what to do about it. We should be happy if they are on the slide, because I do not yet believe they are out of contention to make the GF. Hayes is a major concern, but I would not at all be surprised if they completely make and shake the top 4.
They have the capacity, talent and incentive to repeat 2010, but is the desire what it should be? That is really the only thing missing, other than Hayes. Desire will lead to confidence and form, and then they keep winning.