Play Nice Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 6 - Prosperity Theology, The Coal Man + His Bootlickers

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Cutting irony. F*****g terrifying at the same time.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

They have one club in the bag. Labor is ‘high taxing high spending’. They will claim that Labor’s commitments in Health, Education, Childcare, Public Housing, Mental Health, Domestic Violence et al are unfunded. Labor’s Budget and election commitments has to have every i dotted and every t crossed.

Problem is there's quite some evidence to the contrary. And Chalmers is a very effective communicator.

 

[Bombermania]

I have voted more times for Labor than I have for the Liberals, whether you want to believe or not.

My disenchantment with Labor party has come in the last decade or so as the pandering of dubious sexual proclivities has ramped up. Labor no longer resembles the party that I first voted for; it's far to preoccupied with demonising men and catering to an ever growing list of so-called questionable minority causes.

Many gender and other social issue advocates are politically Liberal party voters however some conservative commentators and sections of the media portray them as all being lefties.

All the ALP has been doing is responding to those groups in much the same as the Liberal Party have been wedging the ALP in mining communities.

 

[Cooldude]

Cooldude where'd your post go about why Clinton lost? Something about not campaigning in swing states and being an awful candidate? Then you mentioned Albanese?

Why'd you delete it?

I realised I triple posted and didn't want a clog up the thread. Basic courtesy

But yes, she is a truly awful candidate that ran a truly awful campaign and was arrogant enough to think she didn't need to campaign in a few key states and will win by default anyway

Before you compare her to Albanese, Albanese is not at that level of ****ing awful

It's actually the girlfriend asking you to say "I love you", then you half say it, but quite ambiguously and with no conviction at all, and then she stays with you anyway because her other option is even worse.

Nope, the people who did the complaining prided themselves on not being stayers because "we want the best", so that isn't accurate

And all that "quite ambiguously and with no conviction at all" is entirely your imagination, and that kinda wording makes you sound like that needy girlfriend

 

[Mick F]

Morrison’s penny-pinching on COVID tests doesn’t add up

A rapid antigen test costs just $15 at the shops, yet taxpayers are now paying $85 for PCR tests at private companies and $42.50 for state-run tests.

www.afr.com

Michael Pascoe (New Daily): “Morrison has given $22.3 million to golf clubs over the past four years.

Magically, only 2.2 per cent of that money has gone to Labor seats.
Yes, more rorting, more corruption.”

The obvious problem for Labor is how do you highlight the corruption without reminding the swinging voters, in those electorates, of the ‘grants’ they received. The outraged voters can’t vote 2 or 3 times.

Do you shift any LNP voters?? In NSW, for decades we have seen the view: "He may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch."

 

[HPKS]

Many gender and other social issue advocates are politically Liberal party voters however some conservative commentators and sections of the media portray them as all being lefties.

All the ALP has been doing is responding to those groups in much the same as the Liberal Party have been wedging the ALP in mining communities.

He’s never voted ALP. The last decades changes ffs has he lived under a rock.

 

[HPKS]

Michael Pascoe (New Daily): “Morrison has given $22.3 million to golf clubs over the past four years.

Magically, only 2.2 per cent of that money has gone to Labor seats.
Yes, more rorting, more corruption.”

The obvious problem for Labor is how do you highlight the corruption without reminding the swinging voters, in those electorates, of the ‘grants’ they received. The outraged voters can’t vote 2 or 3 times.

Easy show them what they’re not getting. The majority in that electorate do not gain a cent from these “grants”. They’re given to boost profits for the mates club. It’s like giving sports grants to AFL clubs for facilities. The vast majority will never see the inside of that facility in their life. Wtf are they getting? Nothing.

 

[anchor man]

So basically people are now angry with Labor for saying tests should be free, but didn't say it in the way they like

Okay

I think that those that are moaning have a very hard lean to the right. In other words... LIBERAL.

 

[anchor man]

Scary thought.

Not as scary as the incompetent we have now.

 

[anchor man]

Cutting irony. F*****g terrifying at the same time.

So... then SFA will get done.

 

[Mick F]

So... then SFA will get done.

He has been a disappointment. Taylor, Henderson and McKenzie with their mercantile background were supposed to provide competent leadership.

 

[anchor man]

He has been a disappointment. Taylor, Henderson and McKenzie with their mercantile background were supposed to provide competent leadership.

The entire LNP have been a disappointment.

 

[SSwans2011]

Conservative voters are largely stupid, stupid people, but what do you call people like you who loses to those stupid voters time and time again

I like how you can recognise that there is a problem for non-conservatives with respect to recent historical voting patterns, but you also cracked the sads because people dare hold the leader who this thread predominantly desperately wants to see turn the tide to a reasonable standard of leadership.

By the way, conservative voters are largely stupid, stupid people, but what do you call people like you who loses to those stupid voters time and time again?

 

[SSwans2011]

Also I find it fascinating that it's always the ones that crack the shits and start insulting other people that also want Albanese to be the next PM because they dared to criticise the ALP are the ones that keep going on about how the left need to stop with the petty in-fighting.

Maybe there'd be less in-fighting if legitimate concerns weren't met with dismissive derision.

 

[Festerz]

I like how you can recognise that there is a problem for non-conservatives with respect to recent historical voting patterns, but you also cracked the sads because people dare hold the leader who this thread predominantly desperately wants to see turn the tide to a reasonable standard of leadership.

Imagine the arrogance and complete lack of logic that leads someone to call those who voted for the current government at the last election as 'largely stupid, stupid people' or to abuse those who dare criticise the TV performance of the man seeking to become PM claiming that it is somehow 'emboldening the evil conservatives'. How utterly out of touch do you need to be to reach those conclusions.

It is a simple fact that to win government the Labor opposition has to convince a significant share of those 'largely stupid, stupid people' who voted conservative at the last election to switch sides in key electorates. To do that requires Labor to adopt the language of inclusion, abandoning divisive juvenile rhetoric of those who have alternative backgrounds and perspectives.

This is not just my view but a key recommendation of the comprehensive Emerson/Weatherill review of the 2019 Federal election loss. A review that also highlighted the role played by the unpopularity of Bill Shorten in the 2019 election campaign.

This finding from the Emerson/Weatherill review highlights the importance of leadership in winning the 2022 election:

"focus-group research conducted by Essential Research involving groups of swinging voters, who were concerned with climate change and were contemplating voting Labor but decided to stay with the Liberal Party, identified leadership as a key reason for not switching."

Bearing these things in mind, you would think it essential to undertake a critical assessment of the performance of Albanese in his first nationally televised interview of the election year.

You can be absolutely sure that is exactly what is happening at ALP HQ today.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Our politicians appear to be tone deaf at times.

Scummo makes an incredible mistake in refusing to make the tests available free of cxharge

Presented with this golden opportunity, Albanese males an equally incredible mistake by failing to clearly and unequivocally state that the ALP believes they should be made available free of charge.

What were they thinking?

 

[Festerz]

Laura Tingle: "Do you think the RAT tests should be free for Australians?"

Anthony Albanese: "I have no problem with that."

Woah that was close. Albo almost got caught out actually believing in something.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Laura Tingle: "Do you think the RAT tests should be free for Australians?"

Anthony Albanese: "I have no problem with that."

Woah that was close. Albo almost got caught out actually believing in something.

"He said yes, but just not in the way you wanted him to say it"

 

[Fire]

Blame the baby boomers for, everything that they are too lazy to try to fix.

Your out of touch rant is why is why 'OK boomer' was coined.

There are good boomers that are aware of how the world has changed, so its not as simple as saying '**** the boomers!' The demographic as a whole though, is perhaps the most selfish, entitled, pull the ladder up from under them generation we have seen in the past century or two. And for some reason also just angry and spiteful.

No one is saying that boomers didn't also work hard or face hardships, or even had specific positive contributions their generation should be proud of. What is being said, is that they were given opportunities and a political, economic and environmental systems that allowed them to prosper, if they were willing and able to do the work.

The new generations have no such opportunities. Because they were taken away long before the time it was our turn to have a go.

Do you seriously think an entire generation is just lazy? OK boomer.

 

[Brad Goodman]

More than happy for others to have higher standards (and TBH so should I), but not being Scott Morrison is enough for to me to vote ALP regardless of anything Albanese says or does in that next few months.

Not that my vote will matter that much, Bandt pretty much has a mortgage on my seat.

 

[Crankyhawk]

How bout convincing people not to vote for him.

Ineffective. I don’t have the money that Palmer has and it’s not about winning seats for Palmer but leveraging to influence coalition. It makes sense for him.
However the method of use of disinformation may be an opening to attack (ie they are a terror organisation) without spending money.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Or convincing people to vote for Labor rather than against someone else.

Proposing little whilst shaming the voters for looking elsewhere is why the US Democrats suck and Labor are doing it nation wide.

No I’m identifying that the UAP is not acting as a genuine political party but it’s a disinformation organisation and compromised pandemic response by being anti vaccine and promoting quack cure which could cause harm.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

God you're trying so hard to find something wrong with what he said, it's actually crazy.

Ever thought it may just be that something is apparent to other people that isn't apparent to you? Because other people have different circumstances, life experiences, priorities and knowledge to you, they will notice different things and have different reactions. And because of that, I'm actually not trying very hard at all, it's glaringly obvious to me.

These kinda nitpicking is why progressives get nowhere.

Once again, you're confusing the politics board of an AFL forum with the real world. People posting here isn't going to change anything.

You have literal two right wing posters agreeing with you,

So what? I don't control their reactions. Can they never be right about anything just because they're right-wing? Howard was right-wing too, should his gun laws be junked because anything the right agree with is automatically wrong or bad?

one of them cheered for Trump, another spends his days being a goblin in the Dan Andrews thread frothing outrage, of course they'll agree with you, their side is ******* up left and right, so they're looking for any angle of attack any way they can, and you just literally made one for them. This is why progressives win nothing, they shoot themselves in the foot

Are you okay? Did someone hurt you?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

They declined, to set in concrete, unfunded spending commitments.

They couldn't possibly do the right thing if it might cost a little bit of money. Albo is running scared of criticism. Is anyone really going to care about an unfunded spending commitment if it's to help average people in a bad situation? Did Jobkeeper and the Jobseeker raise get wide media criticism for being unfunded spending commitments?

Imagine getting so angry because Albanese agreed with your position but just didn't say it in the way you want, that's irrational

The irony, when you're this perturbed about someone agreeing with you that they want Albo to be PM but just think there is a more effective way for him to get there.

Conservative voters are largely stupid, stupid people, but what do you call people like you who loses to those stupid voters time and time again?

The Australian Labor Party.