SFNL Division 1 2023 discussion

[Turbos mail]

Footage is going around, spectators involved, pretty full on, League will have to investigate

Where can I find the vision?

 

[Turbos mail]

Port Colts involved again, the last time Bentleigh went to their ground it was a farce as well. Umpires abused , a muppet supporter verbally and intimidating umpires as they walked off the ground, players insulted and some of the comments were horrific , police called.

Haha I like the Colts but always an intimidating lot down there on the cans.

 

[Swans1968]

Port Colts involved again, the last time Bentleigh went to their ground it was a farce as well. Umpires abused , a muppet supporter verbally and intimidating umpires as they walked off the ground, players insulted and some of the comments were horrific , police called.

You don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story . Did u used to write heart balm for the Truth lol

 

[2s Hack]

Where can I find the vision?

Footage for each game can be found via the SFNL facebook page. Said fracas is an hour into the video

 

[Sth Melb Hellas]

Handbags at ten yards.

 

[sainter01]

Wish i hadn't gone in to RSL lol

Handbags at ten yards.

 

[2s Hack]

CODE Sports

CODE Sports

www.codesports.com.au

The first time I've been tempted to stop being a tightarse & pay to get past the paywall. But to save me putting my short arm into my long pocket, can anyone post it here for the good of local footy

 

[Blood Stained Angels]

You don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story . Did u used to write heart balm for the Truth lol

Poor come back at comedy, as a good reporter does, i was actually at the game in an official capacity and observed the BS from the ferules. Scotty Palmer wanted the story for Punchlines !!!!!!

 

[bedford]

iT'S ONLY A $! to sign on at Code

 

[Wild Thing]

iT'S ONLY A $! to sign on at Code

Please post on here Bedford you did say 2 weeks back you would do it and send updated copy. Cheers

 

[Swans1968]

Poor come back at comedy, as a good reporter does, i was actually at the game in an official capacity and observed the BS from the ferules. Scotty Palmer wanted the story for Punchlines !!!!!!

So would of seen the Bentleigh supporters get involved , not the colts supporters , if your going to say something on here at least take your bentleigh hat off and speak the truth

 

[Parkf00ty]

So would of seen the Bentleigh supporters get involved , not the colts supporters , if your going to say something on here at least take your bentleigh hat off and speak the truth

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[Parkf00ty]

Poor come back at comedy, as a good reporter does, i was actually at the game in an official capacity and observed the BS from the ferules. Scotty Palmer wanted the story for Punchlines !!!!!!

Official capacity that’s not good with some of your BigFooty input


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[bedford]

Then Paul Amy sees a golden opportunity to fill some midweek column on the back of someone else's idea. Do your own work & yes I know you'll read this Paul.

Don't be a sell out to him bedford

Disagree

 

[Blood Stained Angels]

So would of seen the Bentleigh supporters get involved , not the colts supporters , if your going to say something on here at least take your bentleigh hat off and speak the truth

Were you actually there at the Colts game last season at Port is what i was referring to, not this season. Didn't they receive a reprimand from the comp and a suspension of a supporter after the hearing ???? Any how, we move on !!!!

 

[Blood Stained Angels]

Official capacity that’s not good with some of your BigFooty input


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Look up the meaning of sarcasm, oh yeah, your input is invaluable ...

 

[Swans1968]

Were you actually there at the Colts game last season at Port is what i was referring to, not this season. Didn't they receive a reprimand from the comp and a suspension of a supporter after the hearing ???? Any how, we move on !!!!

Yes I was , umpires didn’t report or make a complaint , if the Bentleigh official didn’t want to go on with it , then you would have 1 less story about the colts to talk about . What’s your problem did one of the colts players drive away before you could give them a parking ticket. You move on and so will I.

 

[bedford]

Then Paul Amy sees a golden opportunity to fill some midweek column on the back of someone else's idea. Do your own work & yes I know you'll read this Paul.

Don't be a sell out to him bedford

FYI he doesn't read BF , but was told by someone else about it , not me . It's a totally unfair comments as Paul and i go back a long time and he is fantastic to local sport !

 

[2s Hack]

FYI he doesn't read BF , but was told by someone else about it , not me . It's a totally unfair comments as Paul and i go back a long time and he is fantastic to local sport !

Yeah probably a bit harsh but I'm much happier now that I've stolen the article from a post over at the Ammos. I'm a massive supporter keeping LOCAL footy, local & you've done a great job on the hypothetical league. It has a lot of merit about it.
Agree on salary cap of $80,000 for the future sustainability of clubs, but I know many won't. It may take your club Ormond biting the bullet & coming across to start a potential landslide of clubs doing the same. Parkdale another

I reckon you've pretty much nailed the 4 divisions except maybe your neighbours in Glen Eira maybe a little stiff in Div 3 but tough to fit the 40 clubs in. Would swap St Kilda City out (double drop).

Clubs along the Eastlink belt & further east, look away now!

Anyway a great talking point

PS Apologies if this reveals your identity

Southern Bayside Football League: MAKE IT HAPPEN!​

Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, local sports identity Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has for years discussed a similar league for football. Now he has listed and graded 40 clubs across four divisions, writes PAUL AMY.

Paul Amy
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3 min read
July 19, 2023 - 6:00AM

Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has an idea that would change the Southern league forever.
Welcome to the Southern Bayside Football League.
There are 40 clubs and four divisions.

And in time, Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray says, there will be the passionate local rivalries that come with district competition.
The Southern Bayside Football League won’t be starting any time soon in Melbourne.
But Ormond Amateur Football Club life member Murray thinks that if his hypothetical league ever got off the ground, it would be an excellent competition and superior to existing leagues.

Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, he’s been talking about a similar league for football for a few years, roughing out the clubs that could take part and where they would start in a divisional structure.
He was at it again last week, listing 40 clubs and grading them.

Ormond celebrates a goal in the VAFA this year. Picture: Supplied

They are drawn from the Southern Football Netball League, the Victorian Amateur Football Association, the Mornington Peninsula Football League and, in the case of Oakleigh District, the Eastern Football Netball League. Murray believes that Oakleigh District, which moved to Eastern last year, should be playing closer to home.

Murray’s league runs from Port Melbourne to Seaford. It goes no further east than Clayton and no further north than East Malvern.
It means there is no room for clubs like Cranbourne – Southern’s Division 1 reigning premier – Doveton and Endeavour Hills; he has not strayed into the City of Casey and has selected only one club from the City of Greater Dandenong.

Murray says it makes sense to bring together clubs who are in the same region but are playing in different leagues.
He says travel is taxing for players, coaches and volunteers.

Ormond, for example, plays in the Premier C section of the amateurs, competing against clubs such as PEGS, Old Ivanhoe and Marcellin.
He would prefer if the Monders met clubs like East Brighton and Mordialloc, establishing local rivalries.
The VAFA clubs he has nominated for the Southern Bayside Football League are all “district” affiliates, without ties to private schools or universities.

Cheltenham is a pacesetter in the Southern league. Picture: Josh Chadwick

Murray says it has become too difficult for district clubs to reach the top tier of the amateurs and when they do get there, they invariably go back down quickly.
“You can’t compete with their resources,” he says of the old boys clubs, noting that one of them recently fielded a team with 17 players boasting experience at AFL or VFL level.

Murray says one-up, one-down promotion and relegation would apply, recognising premiership teams, not the two grand finalists, and salary and points caps would apply in the highest division.

He would set the player payments ceiling for the highest division at $80,000.
The administration would be along traditional lines, with a CEO and support staff overseen by a board.
Murray says divisional football is important at local level, as it allows clubs to find their standard.
He has based his hypothetical divisions on the clubs’ performances in the past two seasons.
He knows they will provoke discussion.
Whenever he’s spoken about the potential for a southern bayside league, the reaction has been “very good, apart from people saying which grade their own team should be in!”

Finn Ryan kicks for Cheltenham in the Southern Football Netball League Division 1. Picture: Josh Chadwick

Murray has been involved in community sport in the southern bayside region for many years, attaining life membership of Ormond Amateur Football Club and Middle Park Cricket Club. He has also been involved at South Caulfield Cricket Club for 18 years.
He expresses his opinions on sport liberally and trenchantly on social media.
In 2016, Murray was involved in the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, when clubs broke away from the Victorian Turf Cricket Association to form a more local competition.

Last season, Bentleigh, Murrumbeena, Beaumaris, Bonbeach, Mordialloc, Hampton, Mentone and South Caulfield made up the top grade, the Championship.
Cheltenham, Carnegie, Parkdale, Parkdale United, Brighton District, St Brigid’s St Louis, Dingley, Clayton District, Middle Park, Aspendale and Chelsea are in either Division 1 or 2.
Murray says CSB has worked brilliantly as a regional association.
“It’s sensational,” he says.

And he’s adamant a Southern Bayside Football League would be too.
His floating of the league comes as the Mornington Peninsula league takes in “expressions of interest’’ for a third division.
If the MPFL clubs vote to support the expansion, Southern could lose an entire grade, with clubs including Frankston Dolphins, South Mornington and Cranbourne tipped to make the move.

‘Bomber’s’ Blueprint: The Southern Bayside Football League​

DIVISION 1
Ajax (VAFA)
Beaumaris (VAFA)
Bonbeach (MPFL)
Chelsea (MPFL)
Cheltenham (SFNL)
Dingley (SFNL)
Hampton Rovers (VAFA)
Port Melbourne Colts (SFNL)
St Bede’s Mentone Tigers (VAFA)
St Paul’s (SFNL)

DIVISION 2
Bentleigh (SFNL)
Chelsea Heights (SFNL)
Edithvale-Aspendale (MPNFL)
East Brighton (SFNL)
Mordialloc (SFNL)
Parkdale Vultures (VAFA)
Ormond (VAFA)
Seaford (MPFL)
Springvale Districts (SFNL)
St Kilda City (SFNL)

DIVISION 3
Caulfield (SFNL)
East Malvern (SFNL)
Elsternwick (VAFA)
Glen Eira (VAFA)
Highett (SFNL)
Keysborough (SFNL)
Murrumbeena (SFNL)
Oakleigh District (EFNL)
Oakleigh Krushers (VAFA)
Prahran (VAFA)

DIVISION 4
Albert Park (VAFA)
Ashwood (SFNL)
Black Rock (SFNL)
Carrum Patterson Lakes (SFNL)
Clayton (SFNL)
Hampton Hammers (SFNL)
Heatherton (SFNL)
Mentone (formerly Old Mentonians, league to be confirmed)
Moorabbin Kangaroos (SFNL)
Power House (VAFA)
South Melbourne Districts (VAFA)

 

[Peta Deutschland]

Yeah probably a bit harsh but I'm much happier now that I've stolen the article from a post over at the Ammos. I'm a massive supporter keeping LOCAL footy, local & you've done a great job on the hypothetical league. It has a lot of merit about it.
Agree on salary cap of $80,000 for the future sustainability of clubs, but I know many won't. It may take your club Ormond biting the bullet & coming across to start a potential landslide of clubs doing the same. Parkdale another

I reckon you've pretty much nailed the 4 divisions except maybe your neighbours in Glen Eira maybe a little stiff in Div 3 but tough to fit the 40 clubs in. Would swap St Kilda City out (double drop).

Clubs along the Eastlink belt & further east, look away now!

Anyway a great talking point

PS Apologies if this reveals your identity

Southern Bayside Football League: MAKE IT HAPPEN!​

Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, local sports identity Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has for years discussed a similar league for football. Now he has listed and graded 40 clubs across four divisions, writes PAUL AMY.

Paul Amy
Follow
@paulamy375

3 min read
July 19, 2023 - 6:00AM

Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray has an idea that would change the Southern league forever.
Welcome to the Southern Bayside Football League.
There are 40 clubs and four divisions.

And in time, Gary ‘Bomber’ Murray says, there will be the passionate local rivalries that come with district competition.
The Southern Bayside Football League won’t be starting any time soon in Melbourne.
But Ormond Amateur Football Club life member Murray thinks that if his hypothetical league ever got off the ground, it would be an excellent competition and superior to existing leagues.

Prompted by the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, he’s been talking about a similar league for football for a few years, roughing out the clubs that could take part and where they would start in a divisional structure.
He was at it again last week, listing 40 clubs and grading them.

Ormond celebrates a goal in the VAFA this year. Picture: Supplied

They are drawn from the Southern Football Netball League, the Victorian Amateur Football Association, the Mornington Peninsula Football League and, in the case of Oakleigh District, the Eastern Football Netball League. Murray believes that Oakleigh District, which moved to Eastern last year, should be playing closer to home.

Murray’s league runs from Port Melbourne to Seaford. It goes no further east than Clayton and no further north than East Malvern.
It means there is no room for clubs like Cranbourne – Southern’s Division 1 reigning premier – Doveton and Endeavour Hills; he has not strayed into the City of Casey and has selected only one club from the City of Greater Dandenong.

Murray says it makes sense to bring together clubs who are in the same region but are playing in different leagues.
He says travel is taxing for players, coaches and volunteers.

Ormond, for example, plays in the Premier C section of the amateurs, competing against clubs such as PEGS, Old Ivanhoe and Marcellin.
He would prefer if the Monders met clubs like East Brighton and Mordialloc, establishing local rivalries.
The VAFA clubs he has nominated for the Southern Bayside Football League are all “district” affiliates, without ties to private schools or universities.

Cheltenham is a pacesetter in the Southern league. Picture: Josh Chadwick

Murray says it has become too difficult for district clubs to reach the top tier of the amateurs and when they do get there, they invariably go back down quickly.
“You can’t compete with their resources,” he says of the old boys clubs, noting that one of them recently fielded a team with 17 players boasting experience at AFL or VFL level.

Murray says one-up, one-down promotion and relegation would apply, recognising premiership teams, not the two grand finalists, and salary and points caps would apply in the highest division.

He would set the player payments ceiling for the highest division at $80,000.
The administration would be along traditional lines, with a CEO and support staff overseen by a board.
Murray says divisional football is important at local level, as it allows clubs to find their standard.
He has based his hypothetical divisions on the clubs’ performances in the past two seasons.
He knows they will provoke discussion.
Whenever he’s spoken about the potential for a southern bayside league, the reaction has been “very good, apart from people saying which grade their own team should be in!”

Finn Ryan kicks for Cheltenham in the Southern Football Netball League Division 1. Picture: Josh Chadwick

Murray has been involved in community sport in the southern bayside region for many years, attaining life membership of Ormond Amateur Football Club and Middle Park Cricket Club. He has also been involved at South Caulfield Cricket Club for 18 years.
He expresses his opinions on sport liberally and trenchantly on social media.
In 2016, Murray was involved in the creation of Cricket Southern Bayside, when clubs broke away from the Victorian Turf Cricket Association to form a more local competition.

Last season, Bentleigh, Murrumbeena, Beaumaris, Bonbeach, Mordialloc, Hampton, Mentone and South Caulfield made up the top grade, the Championship.
Cheltenham, Carnegie, Parkdale, Parkdale United, Brighton District, St Brigid’s St Louis, Dingley, Clayton District, Middle Park, Aspendale and Chelsea are in either Division 1 or 2.
Murray says CSB has worked brilliantly as a regional association.
“It’s sensational,” he says.

And he’s adamant a Southern Bayside Football League would be too.
His floating of the league comes as the Mornington Peninsula league takes in “expressions of interest’’ for a third division.
If the MPFL clubs vote to support the expansion, Southern could lose an entire grade, with clubs including Frankston Dolphins, South Mornington and Cranbourne tipped to make the move.

‘Bomber’s’ Blueprint: The Southern Bayside Football League​

DIVISION 1
Ajax (VAFA)
Beaumaris (VAFA)
Bonbeach (MPFL)
Chelsea (MPFL)
Cheltenham (SFNL)
Dingley (SFNL)
Hampton Rovers (VAFA)
Port Melbourne Colts (SFNL)
St Bede’s Mentone Tigers (VAFA)
St Paul’s (SFNL)

DIVISION 2
Bentleigh (SFNL)
Chelsea Heights (SFNL)
Edithvale-Aspendale (MPNFL)
East Brighton (SFNL)
Mordialloc (SFNL)
Parkdale Vultures (VAFA)
Ormond (VAFA)
Seaford (MPFL)
Springvale Districts (SFNL)
St Kilda City (SFNL)

DIVISION 3
Caulfield (SFNL)
East Malvern (SFNL)
Elsternwick (VAFA)
Glen Eira (VAFA)
Highett (SFNL)
Keysborough (SFNL)
Murrumbeena (SFNL)
Oakleigh District (EFNL)
Oakleigh Krushers (VAFA)
Prahran (VAFA)

DIVISION 4
Albert Park (VAFA)
Ashwood (SFNL)
Black Rock (SFNL)
Carrum Patterson Lakes (SFNL)
Clayton (SFNL)
Hampton Hammers (SFNL)
Heatherton (SFNL)
Mentone (formerly Old Mentonians, league to be confirmed)
Moorabbin Kangaroos (SFNL)
Power House (VAFA)
South Melbourne Districts (VAFA)

I like it a lot. What would be the steps to try and make this happen?



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[Wild Thing]

I like it a lot. What would be the steps to try and make this happen?



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I love Bedfords idea and would make for a great league with very strong depth, but let’s be honest I feel it’s a pipe dream away.
Realistically what are the chances of Edi Asp, Chelsea, Seaford, Bonny crossing from MPFL where they have all played for so long, let alone the Ammo teams joining a surburban league…..some lower district clubs might, but highly doubt St Bedes, Ajax to name a few would.

 

[sammelb80]

Absolutely nailed it.

Marsha from Marsha Marshmellow‘s has critiqued the vision

Port Colts
#31: you started it and hid when the crap hit the fan….they don’t call you Old Spark Plug for nothing.
When the sparks flies he goes missing
#11: as Mister T’s love child you need to re engineer your brain to realise once you man handle a child you get to meet blokes twice as strong and just as willing as you. Got absolutely mangled and then whimpered off to the bench.
# 6 , 10, 13, 14, 10 you guys need to stay at home with the other 2 dwarfs and look after Snow White. No use pumping the chest out and pumping your little legs with no impact.
#23 the quintessential looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. Big shoulders, not much in between

Bentleigh
#8 the Zuhaar of SFNL, absolutely creamed #11
#17 #19 the wingmen of #8 fantastic support act.

#51 the video has been sent to Hollywood for an Academy award. If anyone sitting at home bored, put the replay on slow motion and enjoy the emotion, the drama, the stunts, the injured acting. Absolute cracker.

also when is the Port President going to grow a couple and tell Caddy when the games over to just head into the rooms and stop going onto the ground trying to start blues with umpires, opposition players coaches and supporters.

Very poor from Caddy and by all accounts has not adjusted to local football well at all. Needs to grow up and realise local football is just a few hours out of some blokes’ Saturdays, not life or death.

Local football is built upon the community and their relentless, mostly unrecognised work to get games up every week so for him and his team to not show their faces in the rooms after a game is a disgrace, and not the first time it’s happened this year too. Heard Bentleigh couldn’t even give a 6 pack to the Colts best afield cause they could only give it to Casper the ghost!

Back in the day blokes would kill each other out there then have a laugh afterwards as the club collected some coin as money went over the bar. Speaking to some longtime Bentleigh faithful the whole team stuck around in the return fixture earlier in the year for a good hour in the Port rooms after a 10+ goal thrashing….. Terrible look for Port and not what footy is about. Any suspensions laid out?

Will be interesting to see how they react at Moorabbin if they crash out of finals early.

Also credit to Mordi and Mitch Brown….
Have turned their season around and if they can take another scalp or two for the year they are to be commended

 

[Peta Deutschland]

Absolutely nailed it.

Marsha from Marsha Marshmellow‘s has critiqued the vision

Port Colts
#31: you started it and hid when the crap hit the fan….they don’t call you Old Spark Plug for nothing.
When the sparks flies he goes missing
#11: as Mister T’s love child you need to re engineer your brain to realise once you man handle a child you get to meet blokes twice as strong and just as willing as you. Got absolutely mangled and then whimpered off to the bench.
# 6 , 10, 13, 14, 10 you guys need to stay at home with the other 2 dwarfs and look after Snow White. No use pumping the chest out and pumping your little legs with no impact.
#23 the quintessential looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. Big shoulders, not much in between

Bentleigh
#8 the Zuhaar of SFNL, absolutely creamed #11
#17 #19 the wingmen of #8 fantastic support act.

#51 the video has been sent to Hollywood for an Academy award. If anyone sitting at home bored, put the replay on slow motion and enjoy the emotion, the drama, the stunts, the injured acting. Absolute cracker.

also when is the Port President going to grow a couple and tell Caddy when the games over to just head into the rooms and stop going onto the ground trying to start blues with umpires, opposition players coaches and supporters.

Watch #51, some of the funniest vision I’ve seen


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[damochandler]

What part of the game did the fight happen

 

[spindles11]

What part of the game did the fight happen

An hour into the footage